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but we wanted to play video games
You drunk m8? This is <#372513679964635138>
he's always drunk
I mean, so am I right now, I just want to know I'm not alone.
Where's next on GamerGates right-wing politics world tour?
PM Steve Bannon
Things are bad man. It really looks like a lot of people on the right are taking the memes too seriously now. They actually think that using force is the right solution to the division in our country.
yeah, i'm wondering if that's what the globalists actually want at this point
i'm not smart enough for that kind of chess though
Using force *is* the right solution, it's only a question of, "Against whom?"
Because we can't undo this mess. Too far gone.
You can't shoot soy boys
they are unarmed and defenseless
No, just the traitors they put into power.
@AlanPowell It is literally exactly what they want. They want division.
Divide and conquer.
They achieved division.
And conservatives don't seem to have any idea that that is what they want. They are okay with lumping all of the right into these people who "want us dead", but that's what the deep state wants you to think, that the other side is all just bad people who you shouldn't be willing to have a conversation with.
We want them to not be dicks.
And fair enough, an amount of them are impossible to talk to but that doesn't mean you can give up and lose the people who aren't that way.
We want them to quit telling us how to he virtuous.
That's all.
@galesteppes What's that Starship Troopers quote about force and rights?
If they want to debate economics or politics, cool. But they refuse.
nigga which one @Fitzydog
They don't *talk to us.*
Violence, force, ultimate authority etc
```โWhen you vote, you are exercising political authority, you're using force. And force, my friends, is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived.โ
```
This one?
Yep
Yep
To be fair, it's not like the right does a very good job welcoming them in most of the time. Most of the time they're trying to embarrass the left and get gotchas.
You kidding me
Why should they?
The right is now the safehaven of the original left
Yeah but that's for people who are already convinced.
The liberals have come to the right to get away from those nutjobs
I'm talking about the people who still need disagreements hashed out.
They refuse to hash them.
If you still call yourself a leftist in 2019, you are an existential threat
You think we just yell into a void all day?
We habe tried SO HARD to communicate this insanity to the left but they have discredited us in their minds.
Even if they know we make sense, they also 'know' that it's 'wrong'.
50 years of losing ground? And you want us to lose some more? lol
The slow march of Progress knows no end
I don't know how to explain it. It just looks to me like the right is actually okay with the division at this point.
We've accepted them
They don't believe in love and Christ-like compassion anymore.
There is no common ground left. It's just gone. You have some that might come around sure. But there will always be those people. When are there too few of them left to justify doing nothing?
Because the left abuses the shit out of that compassion
you can't be compassionate towards those who seek to undermind you
That's the work of the deep state though.
The time for trying to get the other side to come on over was decades ago
To demoralize.
You're late to the party
It does't *matter* whose fault it is though.
The fire is still on fire regardless of who started it. Are you gonna look for an arsonist before putting out the flames?
Right. The need for human goodness is the same no matter where it comes from.
There is almost none to be found in their camp.
We cannot change their FEELINGS. And that is what it is about.
Remember, it's ok to punch a Nazi,
and they decide who is a Nazi
Context doesn't matter
So you go ahead and take Jesus over to the lions, who do not hear what you say to begin with. We, will be getting our spears.
Then you accept there's such a thing as human evil?
Yep
Of course. Man's nature is to sin.
I don't care what the fuck our nature is. I know that the left, is shaping the world into a place I cannot live in. I refuse to live in. That is enough for me.
@EnderOctanus and that every time we tried to compromise with them, they keep taking more
They have no principles, they use ours against us.
giving a finger to stave off a wolf, then an arm, then your leg , if you keep doing that, what's left?
They know that we are more inclined to follow rules and hold our morals consistently.
After Sargon's last video, would you rather a Muslim cultural Victory of a progressive one?
Then why's it so hard to accept that the divide between good and evil might be political at this point? @Thomas the Sowell Train [USA]
They are the same.
It's like shaking a box of rocks and sand to separate them by size
The regressive leftists have taken up championing Islam, they are in the same camp now.
@EnderOctanus didn't you see the last video? Now there's conflict between the two
How unexpected right?
You know, maybe the reason I have this attitude is because if you guys are right then you're talking about my family.
My whole family
They will sweep it under the rug
Yes. That sucks. Sorry.
And I don't know what to think about that
No, I don't want you to apologize it's just hard to process.
this is the only way
What world do you want to live in? Which one is best for everyone else?
treat them like the younglings
Their beliefs are not crimes. I won't just murder innocent people. But I WILL judge them.
I like my box of rocks analogy, tbh. Just came up with it.
Shake it up enough, and eventually you'll see stratifications
Cripple the recruitment and propaganda. Destroy the militant wing. Then the rest are forced to listen finally.
Yes. We will be heralded as the awful evil people. But so what? We already are.
That is what they already hold to be true.
the left is the manifestation of most of what is wrong today, you can't talk to them, and you can't let them win. even if the deep state wants the right to fight the left for some reason, the left is already too far into the commie bullshit, the thing that we are fighting. so i honestly don't know what to think when it comes to that, but i doubt the right will be targeting innocent civilians if things ever popped off, which i can't say about the left. @Thomas the Sowell Train [USA]
That last part is pretty key
Good point.
I just hope you're right.
Have you seen evidence to the contrary?
Nobody on the right justifies targetting innocent people as far as I know. Even most of the alt-right doesn't.
Property destruction however...
They want the people who brainwash everyone, and who force change on society.
I think for the most part you're correct. I think those people on the right who would be okay with violence against the left for the sake of it would be a much smaller minority than vice versa for the left.
Did you guys know that being derogatory towards fat people on airplanes means you're a Trump supporter?
We want to be left alone, and to mind our own business. We never wanted to be involved in a fight to start with. They forced us into something we detest.
^
We won't just back down though, we tried before and they stabbed us in the back as we walked away.
We tried the historically proven failed tactic of appeasement.
@galesteppes already said it, but they just want more more more
they already got their 'tolerance', but now they want to force us to kiss their feet, fuck that
No it isn't tolerant enough
And it never will be
We have to tear down their house and inflict on them the same as they have on us
But honestly it isn't hard to find evidence of people on the right who would be okay going too far. Just earlier today I had someone telling me "bring on the right wing death squads".
They are frustrated.
^
We all are.
That's what the left deseve
it's cathartic to say things like that
Really?
We WISH we could just nuke it from orbit.
They keep pushing the boundary over and over and FUCKING OVER
But we know we cannot.
they deserve what's coming
Well that's the thing, some deserve it. But they've made it impossible to distinguish now.
Progress never stops
I mean if we were just talking about you know, the politicians and the elites like Soros, that would make more sense to me...
Their propogandists and fundraisers, their recruiters, and their militant arm.
@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA] Remember who celebrates child tranny prostitutes
If we stop the ones making the mess, we can finally force the people to listen to us, and demonstrate WHY they made us do this.
Most won't care of course but they will be too reluctant to take up the torch and be next.
they made normal people act like them because of how hard they pushed, when there is a big backlash, i can imagine a ton of them either flipping, or just checking out.
I bet you will find almost no trans people coming around once the leftist propoganda ends
don't forget that this stuff is mainstream now, and a lot of people are just going along with it because they think they have to.
and half the number of gays
They fabricate social issues, then label US the architects of all social constructs.
We'll start our own yellow vests, with hard hats, that evacuate transition cllincs, and then proceed to demolish them
if we can remove the fear element, then a lot of people will change. at least i think so
if the right pushed back hard enough to break their stranglehold on the language, then that would be a massive win.
Take back the word faggot
The biggest problem of all, though, is that despite us talking this talk, none of us are actually willing to be the first to brings fists to bear. We won't do what we know we have to.
And it's why we will lose.
we dont have a platform really
Have lost.
but if we can convince people to stop being scared of words, then that can turn things around
You can't.
it is the only thing the left really has
It isn't just words now, it's careers and families.
racist, homophobic, transphobic, etc...
it's how they shut us down
we need to say "no fuck you" or better yet "so what, fuck you"
The left have nothing really that they will lose in all of this. At least in their own views. We have a lot more to lose.
you already said we lost lol
what do we have to lose really
how much have they lost?
It is why we have, why we won't fight.
they can't fire everyone
not nearly as much as we have
They have lost a lot, but they think those are gains.
we gave them their wins by not fighting them
See, my response when somebody called me something like that wouldn't be to call them an idiot, it would be to talk about how I believe in compassion. At least that way even if they don't go into a state of cognitive dissonance, then I took the high road. I guess all this crap has just been getting me down lately and I want to believe that people are underestimating how much compassion could make a difference.
maybe one on one
Right, that's my point.
I am pretty certain at this point why I can't get employed. I associate my views online with my real name. So I want this to hurry up and happen before I'm too homeless to die fighting.
i'm talking large scale media shit
politicians and celebs fuck us over
But I cannot do it alone.
we can't talk to them
Yeah I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about a right winger and a left winger face to face.
"When they go low we go high"
we need to tell them to fuck off, and we shouldn't censor ourselves, every time we do, we lose ground
We are outnumbered. Force is our only trump card.
But doesn't that just alienate more people from the right?
it's too late for the one on one thing
it just is
Thats nice, wanna give me a job since nobody else will due to my Twitter account?
do it if you can
and if we don't we lose slowly and slowly
we either hemmorage ourselves or we pull a coup
See I believe there is a reason they killed Martin, it's because he had a message of compassion that we needed. First the communists tried to control him, and when they couldn't do it hey got rid of him. And now, we have people like Melina Abdullah, who is teaching communist subversion to young people, especially blacks, that Martin would have supported the aggressiveness of the left today. They are rewriting him.
Meaningless, you are trying to justify your own reasons to fight.
They do not care why you fight.
yeah man, they've gone too far
i dont know what else to say really
And we'll do the usual and do nlthing about it, right?
they need a real wake up call
i changed my attitude towards it
and i think a lot of other people have too
Gale, they still call for violence against MAGA kid
They need putting down. But none of us can do so.
We won't
i still think there will be a huge backlash soon
Too late.
I mean we gotta hang them from every tree
I can agree with that, it feels like something is seriously going to happen and I don't know what.
and impale them as a reminder
They live by emotion and govern by emotion. We have to use their emotions to win.
It looks like Kamala Harriss is going to run for president and I think she has a decent shot.
If I'm honest with you, I don't think it matters who becomes president, the bully pulpit has been disassembled.
I think it does. It will have a big effect on *how* bad things can get.
We already know how bad. They will censor everything, then come for us, then cleanse themselves.
That is the path we are on. And again. We wait for everyone else to wake up and take responsibility.
They are asleep, we are not. If we don't, why would they?
i can just tell that something has changed recently, like the right finally had a realization as to how fucked up things are. we haven't seen much push back so far because for a while it was just nutty sjws,
but now people see that it is a large scale attack on what America actually used to be. i don't think the fight is over, i think it's finally actually starting. the right will become more bold. i still have some optimism left lol
Did you not see how bad it was?
If you did, and did nothing, why do you think anyone else will even when they wake up?
i've changed my attitude, that's a start
and i have been redpilling normies
successfully
Impetus. It is supposed to lead to action. Ours leads us to do this.
Talk on discord
I think I just need to make some real life friends on the right. Maybe that'll help me be a bit more confident about whatever might happen. I haven't found anybody out here who's redpilled.
stop being a Debbie downer ffs, your attitude is part of the problem @EnderOctanus
lol
We aren't necessarilly confident about it, what do you mean? And, no, I am admitting the problem.
I don't know what I mean. Maybe just about what I should be doing.
or how I should think about things
that's what I'm trying to sort out
How many normies is enough, for instance? Is there a line for you?
enough for what?
I've been doing that for years, and never really noticed an impact.
Enough to change our direction I guess
Enough to support anyone who wants to flush out the deep state.
So what, just more politics? Or the alternative?
I believe in reformation before revolution
We need contact with militias for the latter. Takes planning.
Okay. Are you gonna know when it failed and you should move to the next option? We lack metrics.
And organization
So everyone is kn different pages
You guys are not as worn out and exhausted as I am for instance, I've been in this fight for years now. I'm headed toward the 'alternative'. And if there are not enough of me, it does more harm than good to future attempts.
I mean if the left calls a constitutional convention that'll probably be the last straw.
That's when we will have our own yellow vest protests.
So I just... Wait for something I don't know is coming, and might be too late when it arrives
I don't know man, that's my point, I'm trying to figure this all out.
I know. That is what I mean. I can't just do it myself, so I gotta wait for everyone else to be ready. But I won't be able to keep on for long.
I think I just need to unplug from the news for a few days and give myself some time to think.
not a bad idea
stuff like this certainly doesn't help https://theish.us/forget-2016-2020-is-going-to-be-the-ugliest-presidential-election-ever-2b6c6d154b84
especially because that's what I already knew
I think the issue isn't really that she had an affair - I think it's more to do with the fact she had an affair with a guy 30 years older than her.
- so that sounds like a business transaction.
would anyone let Kamala sit on their face?
do you think she got her neck skin pulled back or something?
it looks odd
if she got it pulled it back then they didnt do a good job
lol
if she got that gobbler fixed then maybe id smash from the front
What would you do if you were present for this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaBXyXP5Dig
First of all, I'd have people concealed carrying off to the side waiting for anything shitty to go down
There were already police standing on the sidelines.
So the solution to the problem are guns...?
I'd start slaying the libtards with facts
It's old Guccifer shit
@Fitzydog Dude, only CNN and Chris Cuomo can look at those files. It's against the law unless CNN shows the leaked documents to us first.
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