Swords are weapons.

Guns are made for killing, they're inherently weapons.

ugh

that statement is factually untrue

I can name you several dozen guns clearly not designed for lethal use

What about a target pistol made specifically for competitive shooting?

Literally designed from the blueprint to be used in competition

Using an unicorn to disprove a trend

flare pistols, line guns, bench rifles, etc etc etc

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31RKPt0VTlL._SX355_.jpg

Are those the majority of guns?

They're a subset, and certainly not one-off

no, but nevertheless they are guns which are not weapons

And flare pistolf have a designated use

But you said pistol

lol actually no

Which is a gun

i have a 37mm flaregun I use an adapter for to shoot shotgun shells

intended use be damned

Oh snap

You're literally not helping your cause here mate.

Your logic is so far out of the window it's not even funny.

What about potato guns?

my point is that even if you make the absurd statement that guns can even be intrinsicly weapons, that not all guns *are* weapons, but even those can be used outside of their intended purpose

Made out of pvc and compressed air

UK banned katanas, right? That sure stopped the increase of criminal samurais.

If this is still going on after my midterm I will gladly jump in.

its because intended purpose is completely meaningless

Should pvc pipe be regulated?

Also air?

i guarantee you that if there were a potato gun attack in the UK they would start doing ID checks for hairspray and piping.

And regulate the sale of potatoes.

You have carry your ID always so that is a moot point

"Sir, are you licensed to buy those vegetables?

because they're a bunch of eurotrash draconian busybodies who think they can ban everything they don't like out of existence

And you can make bombs from fertilizers

i love how you're literally defending random ID checks

nah I think it's just a difference of perception

I can't wait for the EU police of vice and virtue checking ID's at checkpoints and confiscating potatoes

Random ID checks. What is wnong with them?

does the word Gestapo have a meaning to you?

Just to jump in quickly before my midterm, all weapons were designed as tools first. Spears were used to hunt by early humans, became used for war because it's a convent second use.

Does the word hyperbole have a meaning to you?

i gtg

ya'll are being weaponist right now

NOT ALL WEAPONS

man europe really is going down the shitter if this is the line of thought

Yeah Radeon you might be jumping the shark a bit

I obviously wasn't being serious

the phrase euro-cucked exists for a reason

Ah yes those pesky europeans

lol

I agree Europe isn't heading in a very liberal direction, that's for sure

that being said im genuinely in awe that this dude is unironically defending random ID checks

_waits paitently_

the "what do you have to hide?" argument in 3, 2, 1...

Does your police do any random check in the US?

Liberty over safety every time

only if they have reasonable cause to

@radeon
Dude.
Again. You're jumping to conclusion. If you want to have a genuine discussion, sure. But you've proven yourself way too screechy and immature for that by now.
But you're making the assumption I'm anti-gun based off the fact that I'm trying to call a gun a weapon.

well what is it if it isnt a weapon?

coz it sure aint a fucking ornament

I am not arguing for confiscation

Actually....

Facts over fantasy.
This is what americans can't understand. Your politics are in shambles because of it.

you cannot define a clear definition between what is any isn't a weapon when you believe anything is always a weapon no matter what

It's Okay to be American.

I'd love to put two Winchester model 1894's over my fireplace

#NotAllAmericans

If I laid out a table with dozens of knives of different sizes could you point out to me which are weapons and which are not without running around with a ruler?

well... i suppose it depends on weather you label them "kitchen" and "not kitchen"

There are certain designs which are inherently banned because they're distinctly considered a weapon. Regardless of length.

I can use non-kitchen knives to assault someone, likewise I could use a KA-BAR to cut my steak, whats the distinction?

"Zombie"

BAN IT

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trench_knife

Like this one

***Considered*** a weapon. By what criteria? My feels?

Considered by agreement

so collective feels.

I don't agree with you.

not actual hard data.

i would argue that context is more defining of a weapon

"If I can't get a definite answer if only some of them are or all them are. None of them are."

If a woman uses a child to extort money from a man, would Europe ban that child for being used as a weapon?

ie. it doesnt matter what kind of knife, if you're standing in front of someone screaming "im going to stab you"

^

Could even be a screwdriver.

Sure, Vertigo. But you can still look at something before the fact and look at which is easier or made for stabbing.

Or a broken bottle.

a weapon is anything used to assault someone or something. If you can't using it for that purpose than it isn't a weapon.

i think prison proves you can make anything a weapon

they use fucking toothbrushes

A trench knife is not made for cutting fucking steak though is it?

Its really stupid easy to stab someone with a screwdriver.

I've watched Serbian film and I saw a dude kill a guy with his dick.

Should we ban dicks?

no, but you could jsut as easily use it as a paperweight

Why its made isn't relevant

Then we should ban all pointy things. Everything shall be round from now on.

*Divert discussion*

lol we could easily circumvent your logic by putting "target use only" on all guns