>Trump pays $30 million in taxes
>People who will never even contribute a single mill in taxes RREEEEE

The outrage over Trump is just silly

This whole conversation is just a troll fest. Dan started sperging out as soon as I tried to dig out of him what moral duty a government may have to its citizens.

I think it's hilarious when he says something patently false and everyone around him is like "wait wtf did he just say"

@nathan
It is

I told you what moral duty

imagine paying 30 million in one year and having people tell you it's not enough

the eternal gibs

to protect negative rights as perscribed by the constituion

but you moral fagged out

“Hurr hurr I cant hear you so that mean I win”

Plus, US Healthcare system works for US, don't means it will work in other places

It provides 75% of the worlds medical advances

it must be doing something right...

Yeah, making a fuck ton of people rich

That's for sure

Not saying it's something bad tho

Health insurance ≠ medical engineering

They're almost completely unrelated

That's like saying F1 drivers make incredible improvements in formula 1 cars

The amount people make on investing money into RnD has nothing to do with medical advancment /s

it has a lot to do with a freeish market system

that protects intelectual property

and does not set price controls

how is Obamacare btw?

It's gross

I'm actually asking

If they make a lot of money because they overprice every procedure, they sure will have more money to invest in research

how are prices set?

Obamacare is bad because the compromises made it bad for everyone involved

It more or less forced you to buy healthcare whether you like it or not

You either buy or get fined a shit ton

same in Canada

Idk tbh, but I imagine it's not a fair price

Is it?

And did it make the healthcare better?

It's exactly the same

didn't premiums shoot up?

Imagine my shock

There is no such thing as a price being fair

only supply and demand

Now....

The goal is to heal the citizens or to have profit?

BOTH

^

return on investment requires both

But, what's more important?

@Fulcrum010 are you.. a commie?

@obrallaghan
Really?

well?

Based on what you say that?

"The goal is to heal the citizens or to have profit?"

do it for the greater good?

Destroy a business by having it unable to operate or make money?

<:think_cartoon:378717098618388491>

Because when the subject is public Healthcare I put the health of the population over profit?

because people are motivated by their own self interest

Not saying it shouldn't have a profit

a doctor doesn't bail on a 12 hour operation because $$ like it or not

But, If it's possible to lower the profits to decrease the price and make it more accessible, why not?

Isn't it in your own self interest that when you get sick, you want to be able to get better without suffering financially?

I don't think anyone would argue that

but if it's supply and demand, and everyone requires healthcare, then prices should never skyrocket

not everyone requires certain types of healthcare

You just decide to not get sick.
You just decide to set some money aside from your paycheck-to-paycheck job to insure you.
And if you can't get enough money, you steal.
Such is the beauty of the free market of human lives. Law of the jungle. Survival of the richest.

WHAT IFIFIFIFIF

Okay, you just shut up you retard.

based furry pizza man has spoked

>say dan spergs
>actually spergs

That's my point.

I don't think is wrong to have profit, I just think it'd a better option to lower the profit (decreasing prices of medications for example) to make it more accessible

ye

so lower RnD?

Yeah, why not?

Why is sanitation a government's responsibility?

it is not

alt righters finding statistics like

Is it?

there are private sanatation companies

It isn't? So your neighbor can just let his trash accumulate if he wants to?

i take my own trash to them

and yes technically he could

hoarders

Private companies do it as a service for the municipality.

The government is only required to clean government property, last I checked.

could someone tell me what exactly we are arguing about

WE WANT POOR PEOPLE TO DIE

oh same

MUH FEE FEES

Not all of them

they fill market gaps

Just the brown ones

@DanConway only the blacks right?

You won't find a single government that lets trash, rats, bugs accumulate on his property where other people can suffer from it.

@radeon
Free healthcare, or it was at the beginning

there is no such thing as free healthcare lads

pretty sure you can let the inside of your house go to shit if you don't have kids

On federal property?

@DanielKO yeah, WHERE OTHER PEOPLE suffer from it.

What about the “shitholes”