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2017-11-11 18:08:55 UTC

Also, I guess Portugal is making it easier for Brazilians to stay there(I have to check this to be sure)

2017-11-11 18:09:16 UTC

Sorry, I don't know where you're from, I have no context for what you said.

2017-11-11 18:09:27 UTC

I'm from Brazil

2017-11-11 18:10:16 UTC

Brazilians can enter EU for tourism without a visa, right?

2017-11-11 18:10:21 UTC

Brazil is easily the most corrupt south American nation

2017-11-11 18:10:23 UTC

Pretty much

2017-11-11 18:10:44 UTC

Not the most, Bolรญvia might be the worse

2017-11-11 18:10:50 UTC

Or Venezuela too

2017-11-11 18:11:06 UTC

Brazil has a lot of potential

2017-11-11 18:11:13 UTC

Yeah

2017-11-11 18:11:13 UTC

I remember some diplomatic shit when Spain decided to not let Brazilians in without visas.

2017-11-11 18:11:22 UTC

It could become a regional powerhouse

2017-11-11 18:11:26 UTC

Oh, I've seen it

2017-11-11 18:11:36 UTC

They kept people at the airport for a week or two

2017-11-11 18:12:17 UTC

Brazil is a powerhouse in South America, but with the current crisis and the mismanagement of decades, it's getting really bad

2017-11-11 18:12:42 UTC

How come they are so impotent?

2017-11-11 18:12:48 UTC

Brazil has like the entire government being investigated for organized crime or something.

2017-11-11 18:13:03 UTC

For corruption

2017-11-11 18:14:05 UTC

Impotent about what?

2017-11-11 18:14:21 UTC

With their governing

2017-11-11 18:14:32 UTC

People don't give a shit

2017-11-11 18:14:38 UTC

It's pretty much this

2017-11-11 18:15:26 UTC

Social programs to keep electorate under control. That was what the president was bragging about at the UN.

2017-11-11 18:16:11 UTC

At least they didn't pull the "let me starve the population to death" like Zimbabwe.

2017-11-11 18:16:11 UTC

That's the thing. It's not to keep but at the same time it is.

It's welfare, but they use it to keep poor people under control and voting them

2017-11-11 18:16:54 UTC

At the same time the left goes "omg, this is so good because people left poverty and bla bla bla"

2017-11-11 18:17:30 UTC

On the other hand, their president could have been nominated as goodwill ambassador if he did. <:think_hitlerdidnothingwrong:378717099952177162>

2017-11-11 18:22:40 UTC

Just lie about your economic problems.

2017-11-11 18:23:26 UTC

You don't need to help the poor if you don't believe they exist.

2017-11-11 18:23:31 UTC

It will catch up with them either way

2017-11-11 18:25:11 UTC

It did

2017-11-11 18:25:32 UTC

It was one the of things that blew up when macri assumed

2017-11-11 18:26:31 UTC

Irรก funny, because it blew up on his government, so the opposition blamed him for it for the stuff Cristina did

2017-11-11 21:25:11 UTC

Only the internet can turn shit into gold

2017-11-11 22:21:13 UTC

Watched the video @DanConway

2017-11-11 22:21:27 UTC

Gotta say I disagree on many points

2017-11-11 22:22:12 UTC

thats not a bad thing

2017-11-11 22:22:29 UTC

he makes some pretty good videos back when he did alot

2017-11-11 22:25:34 UTC

He forgot why the social programes were made in the first place

2017-11-11 22:26:00 UTC

Mainly to avoid an uprising

2017-11-11 22:26:34 UTC

fair enough

2017-11-11 22:27:09 UTC

they need to at least be consolidated into one program (in the US that is)

2017-11-11 22:28:29 UTC

And charities waste an enormous amount of money

2017-11-11 22:28:48 UTC

not really

2017-11-11 22:28:55 UTC

Just look at the red cross

2017-11-11 22:28:59 UTC

compared to how social systems work

2017-11-11 22:29:08 UTC

they have to pay people

2017-11-11 22:29:20 UTC

just like the government does

2017-11-11 22:29:43 UTC

If you donate donate it to your local church or something like that

2017-11-11 22:30:12 UTC

Also his stance on the separation of church of state wories me

2017-11-11 22:31:02 UTC

dont you guys pay a church tax though?

2017-11-11 22:32:03 UTC

I think the main point of his ideas are still Liberty>security

2017-11-11 22:34:10 UTC

Yes we pay

2017-11-11 22:34:28 UTC

in a way that gives them a say in your gov?

2017-11-11 22:34:40 UTC

Not much

2017-11-11 22:34:54 UTC

Mostly holidays

2017-11-11 22:35:10 UTC

We have to close the stores

2017-11-11 22:35:57 UTC

And we have religious education aviable but it isnt mandatory

2017-11-11 22:36:32 UTC

but it is still some say

2017-11-11 22:37:07 UTC

the problem i have with Sep of Church and State in the US is how they got that specific verbage

2017-11-11 22:38:28 UTC

And you still have the occasional judge/politician that bases some absolutely retarded decision on some backwards and literal interpretation of the bible.

2017-11-11 22:39:27 UTC

And then he goes on a rant how UK shouldnt have alowwed muslims in

2017-11-11 22:39:45 UTC

Making no differentiation beween muslim and islamist

2017-11-11 22:40:33 UTC

I am not from UK so its kinda hard for me to judge that

2017-11-11 22:41:07 UTC

They have had alot more problems in that area than the US

2017-11-11 22:43:35 UTC

Yes because they alowed way too many people in a short time ad created paralel societies

2017-11-11 22:44:01 UTC

I think it has more to deal with barriers to entry through welfare

2017-11-11 22:44:22 UTC

if welfare pays more than a low paying job there is a problem

2017-11-11 22:44:45 UTC

The best path to assimilation is work

2017-11-11 22:45:00 UTC

And it shoudnt but that is not an argument for its abolishment

2017-11-11 22:46:16 UTC

no but it is an example of how groups will not assimilate in large numbers

2017-11-11 22:47:13 UTC

And something I noticed is in the idea of free trade

2017-11-11 22:47:34 UTC

Nobody talks about reciprocity

2017-11-11 22:47:54 UTC

how so?

2017-11-11 22:48:14 UTC

Should we do free trade with china?

2017-11-11 22:48:37 UTC

We allow them to buy land, companies etc.

2017-11-11 22:48:49 UTC

They dont return the favour

2017-11-11 22:48:58 UTC

It depends

2017-11-11 22:49:39 UTC

I say we should prioritise trading If the laws are the same

2017-11-11 22:49:57 UTC

you have to make markets in your own country competitve first through deregulation before you can have free trade

2017-11-11 22:50:22 UTC

If you trade with protectionists without concetions you look like a sucker

2017-11-11 22:50:31 UTC

Chinese gov is reportedly cracking down on overseas investment at the moment, funnily enough

2017-11-11 22:50:47 UTC

not suprising

2017-11-11 22:51:21 UTC

Has anyone tried just sucking more dicks? "Drained balls are good for all" my uncle used to say

2017-11-11 22:51:25 UTC

Also

2017-11-11 22:51:30 UTC

It irked me for a while. Just wanted to get the idea out there

2017-11-11 22:51:34 UTC

Would be a much friendlier world

2017-11-11 22:51:48 UTC

The US acquirers do their utmost to stay out of the headlines. They prefer to shop quietly, without competitors finding out. This does a lot to keep prices down and give these US buyers maximum negotiating leverage. A lot of these US acquisitions in China stay secret long after they close.

Contrast this style with that of Chinese investors in the US. Most end up bidding against one another for the same assets. *Overpaying has become a hallmark of Chinese purchases in the US*.

2017-11-11 22:53:46 UTC

China still can confiscate those properties

2017-11-11 22:56:53 UTC

So can other countries ๐Ÿคท

2017-11-11 22:57:17 UTC

It's something half the politicians in this country run on

2017-11-11 22:57:30 UTC

"Der Chinese are stealing our land! we gotta take it BACK!"

2017-11-11 22:58:50 UTC

Libertarianism is as utopian as socialism

2017-11-11 23:00:54 UTC

Not to hold up as an Ideal

2017-11-11 23:01:16 UTC

I think the utopia comes when you go into Anarchy

2017-11-11 23:01:38 UTC

"Ancap" And "AnCoM"

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