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2018-06-05 02:06:29 UTC

what are you referencing @Fulcrum010 ? gimme a link

2018-06-05 02:07:02 UTC

or at least a doi number

2018-06-05 02:07:12 UTC

scihub's the shit son

2018-06-05 02:07:37 UTC

Here is a question, do you think someone like Einstein was genetically predisposed to being highly intelligent, or was it environmental factors

2018-06-05 02:08:13 UTC

How much of his intelligence would be due to his genetics, and how much to his environment

2018-06-05 02:09:38 UTC

Well many of einstein's children are intelligent, but some of them were also schizophrenic.

2018-06-05 02:10:40 UTC

you're balancing a ball on a spike with intelligence and genetics. high intelligence predisposes you to a lot of potential genetic problems.

2018-06-05 02:10:51 UTC

Because genetics is fucking complicated.

2018-06-05 02:11:40 UTC

But can we at the very least acknowledge that intelligence is highly effected by genetic factors

2018-06-05 02:11:44 UTC

Not 100%

2018-06-05 02:11:48 UTC

and not 0%

2018-06-05 02:12:08 UTC

But it has a noticeable impact

2018-06-05 02:12:32 UTC

Of course it is. but the ability for a culture to maintain the growth of those individuals varies.

2018-06-05 02:13:15 UTC

To wrap back around to where we began

2018-06-05 02:13:18 UTC

If we accept that

2018-06-05 02:13:40 UTC

If we accept that non-sequitur

2018-06-05 02:14:02 UTC

Is it really a stretch to say that there are other psychological traits that may be affected by genetics

2018-06-05 02:14:09 UTC

no.

2018-06-05 02:14:15 UTC

It is

2018-06-05 02:14:54 UTC

Mainly as a result of one being able to be quantitively measured and the other, well, not so much

2018-06-05 02:15:50 UTC

So why do personality disorders have a higher risk of being hereditarily passed on

2018-06-05 02:16:12 UTC

in what groups?

2018-06-05 02:16:55 UTC

(you can measure if someone has a genetic disorder)

2018-06-05 02:17:20 UTC

Psychopathy is specifically tied to genetics

2018-06-05 02:17:34 UTC

Psychopathy is a psychological trait

2018-06-05 02:17:40 UTC

Bam

2018-06-05 02:17:52 UTC

right. so.

2018-06-05 02:17:56 UTC

And?

2018-06-05 02:18:22 UTC

So psychological traits can be genetically inherited

2018-06-05 02:18:29 UTC

right. so.

2018-06-05 02:18:49 UTC

Psychological disorders can be inherited

2018-06-05 02:19:03 UTC

I'm not getting your point @Cream Man

2018-06-05 02:19:36 UTC

Why would it be that only disorders are inheritable

2018-06-05 02:19:51 UTC

@Cream Man
What's your point?

2018-06-05 02:19:59 UTC

You realize there is a whole field of study called evolutionary psychology right

2018-06-05 02:20:13 UTC

But whatever just ignore that

2018-06-05 02:20:37 UTC

There is a field called โ€œGender Studiesโ€

2018-06-05 02:20:43 UTC

What is your point?

2018-06-05 02:20:47 UTC

disorders are by definition inheritable. I'm still not getting what your point is. lay it out, spread it like i do the cheeks of traps.

2018-06-05 02:21:14 UTC

So animals dont inherit things like instincts genetically

2018-06-05 02:21:25 UTC

just make your point

2018-06-05 02:21:26 UTC

jesus

2018-06-05 02:21:48 UTC

In order to make my point we need to come to an agreement on this

2018-06-05 02:21:55 UTC

That there is a tie

2018-06-05 02:22:07 UTC

Between someone's social and psychological traits

2018-06-05 02:22:10 UTC

And genetics

2018-06-05 02:22:23 UTC

I mean, I could just

2018-06-05 02:22:25 UTC

pysiological yes, cultural, no.

2018-06-05 02:22:31 UTC

Post a bunch of studies and be an autist

2018-06-05 02:22:46 UTC

Well what is culture

2018-06-05 02:22:52 UTC

ideas.

2018-06-05 02:22:55 UTC

make your point

2018-06-05 02:22:58 UTC

stop going around it

2018-06-05 02:23:02 UTC

just say it

2018-06-05 02:23:03 UTC

jesus

2018-06-05 02:23:05 UTC

Kek

2018-06-05 02:23:14 UTC

Thats not how you debate my dude

2018-06-05 02:23:26 UTC

You need to set up all your arguments

2018-06-05 02:24:02 UTC

No, you start with the premise and you explain it from there. if you don't have a premise we're just gonna go around in circles.

2018-06-05 02:24:45 UTC

I don't think you know much about the art of rhetoric

2018-06-05 02:24:59 UTC

Sad

2018-06-05 02:25:08 UTC

We arent going in circles

2018-06-05 02:25:36 UTC

I'll explain what I view as culture

2018-06-05 02:25:45 UTC

Culture is a series of values

2018-06-05 02:25:49 UTC

Please don't write a paper, that shit would be so confusing.

2018-06-05 02:26:03 UTC

Hard work

2018-06-05 02:26:11 UTC

you are saying a bunch of random shit, you want us to agree with you when you haven't even made a point

2018-06-05 02:26:25 UTC

and when you tell you to make a point

2018-06-05 02:26:25 UTC

'I'm not going to write my brief, read my shit first'.

2018-06-05 02:26:35 UTC

I dont understand how you arent following along

2018-06-05 02:26:35 UTC

you are claiming "superiority" for not giving it

2018-06-05 02:26:55 UTC

I'm not writing paragraphs here

2018-06-05 02:27:42 UTC

I'm saying that in a debate, there is an art to making an argument

2018-06-05 02:27:49 UTC

Dude

2018-06-05 02:28:04 UTC

bullshitting people is also an art

2018-06-05 02:28:11 UTC

This is a fucking discord argument, not a presidential debate, not your speech class final

2018-06-05 02:28:12 UTC

and that's all you are doing until now

2018-06-05 02:28:20 UTC

How am I bullshitting

2018-06-05 02:28:21 UTC

Yeah, discussion don't start with a statement to debate or anything.

2018-06-05 02:28:29 UTC

the fact that you wanted us to agree on something without even making your point tells a lot

2018-06-05 02:28:33 UTC

Just ๐Ÿ‘ make ๐Ÿ‘ your ๐Ÿ‘ point

2018-06-05 02:28:39 UTC

It's not like that's how literally every formal debate has ever been formatted.

2018-06-05 02:28:44 UTC

or anything.

2018-06-05 02:28:49 UTC

I started this discussion with my opinion

2018-06-05 02:28:57 UTC

You can scroll back up and find it

2018-06-05 02:28:59 UTC

which is?

2018-06-05 02:29:21 UTC

That it is atleast a possibility that culture is somewhat determined by genetics

2018-06-05 02:30:12 UTC

This is really autistic

2018-06-05 02:30:16 UTC

directly? no

2018-06-05 02:30:23 UTC

indirectly? maybe

2018-06-05 02:30:28 UTC

you can see things that way

2018-06-05 02:30:30 UTC

that's your point?

2018-06-05 02:31:21 UTC

I dont understand what you are asking

2018-06-05 02:31:34 UTC

Are you trying to catch me in a gotcha or something?

2018-06-05 02:31:36 UTC

This is retarded

2018-06-05 02:37:58 UTC

i smell a snowflake

2018-06-05 02:38:34 UTC

Sad

2018-06-05 03:21:40 UTC

^

2018-06-05 07:08:15 UTC

It's pride month so it's time for obligatory Christian Bakery controversy

2018-06-05 08:26:19 UTC

So like, can trump pardon himself?

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