They probably know they are getting sent back, they want to get as much as they can in the short term. They have no interest in building anything here or there.

that's also very likely

as has been seen in the cases of the people that went to Finland, for example, and went back home because it was "too cold"

I think it's a good deterrent to do what has been done here, and confiscate valuables from migrants, to pay for their stay

some even went so far as to suggest "confiscating" gold teeth, lol

that's NAZI

if you were to believe swedish media, very much so, yeah

no it just is

you can't take someones teeth

yes you can, what are you talking about

you wouldn't take the tooth, just the gold filling

all you need is a proper tool

whereever the line is

I wouldn't take someones Gold tooth

well, if people think you're going to, they might not go to the place where such a thing is purported to happen

the too cold thing is hilarious to me though

I don't think anyone took the suggestion seriously, though

that also happened in sweden, or either mal or me is mixing up the countries

apart from swedish media, of course

danes are doing that, confiscating any valuables above a limit when you enter denmark

I remember it being in Finland. Or perhaps that was the Nutella story

https://www.dailywire.com/news/26414/busted-democrat-florida-mayor-arrested-fbi-sting-ryan-saavedra

You can't appropiate people's gold teeth or take their stuff, you must integrate them to 'pay for their stay'

Sweden has sucked at this far as I can tell

but how many Arabic into Swedish language books are there?

I think it's fair enough to take valuables above a certain level, if you come here seeking asylum, violating EU law by not applying for asylum in the first country you enter, in order to get to the north where the welfare is the highest.

The welfare states of scandinavia cannot support a very high amount of leeches, it requires people to work and pay taxes (duh)

omg mal you're so racist

I've been called worse

arguing with swedes, and such

not only is it fair to take their valuables, it's fair to _kill_ them, morally speaking

if you believe, as I do, that if we allow islam to stay, it will lead to civil war

you could probably make that case, but I don't think it's necessary

not yet, anyway

while if you, for example, simply shot people at the border for a day, they'd stop coming

I'd wager we'd save thousands upon thousands of lives

they probably would, but your international reputation amongst free democracies would be tarnished and you would most likely be condemned and suffer various sanctions

they were invited by Germany and Sweden

that's not how EU law works

no

I'm not advocating for shooting people at the border

they cannot just invite people

but they did

and the option is the deport them back to Greece or Southern Italy

which ain't clever

which does not help their case, because they've still violated international law, and the countries that are affected by Germany's idiotic invitations are well within their rights to decline them

specifically, what I actually would like to do is to buy unincorporated land in some african country, forcefully deport _every islamic migrant_ there, and fund the formation of some sort of government for a period of time

that's what I advocate

immigrant arrival rates have declined sharply since Denmark started to confiscated valuables

I'm just saying I can easily argue for it being moral to kill them

I read at one point, that Jordan and some other state had investigated how much Jordan could earn by establishing factories for these migrants to work in, while staying in a nearby refugee camp

while hiring 1 Jordanian for every 10 or so migrants

where the developed world subsidized Jordan for this

I'd do that as well if I were jordan

infinitely cheaper to pay for these people to stay in Jordan

sounds like an excellent plan

folk is Muslim Alt-Right

and they would not stick out like a sore thumb, culturally

win win in any scenario, and it would boost the economy of Jordan and help bring it to a more modern level

thus creating a better market in the region

I'm not muslim alt-right, I just think Islam is the death of society as we know it

religion is generally an awful waste of time and money, but islam is infinitely worse than all other religions currently.

I could live with the others if they stay at current levels of influence, but not Islam

it needs to die

I certainly disagree with that, there seems to be an inherent need in the human species for some kind of religion

so I have no problem allowing religion, except islam and probably a few others

I don't, a non-religious alternative to any of the things that religion supplies exists, and comes with no moral-baggage

Capitalism requires religion

sorta

eh

yes mal, but they don't work currently

they work, but indoctrination is a thing

we've not yet reached the level where we can replace religion, especially not the communal aspect of it

anyway, we can't ban a religion, we can't ban ideas, we can't outlaw thought

explain scandinavian and japanese levels of religion then

community can easily be found elsewhere

I don't want to ban religion, really

Japanese are not at all Western

I think it will die eventually

they are super strict

they're more western minded than the rest of asia

the more religion is exposed to alternatives, that come with zero negative baggage, the more it will fall out of favor

the more people who grow up with irreligious parents, the less indoctrination

it will go up and down with certain societal factors

like the small surges in christianity in the face of encroaching islam

I don't really care about any of this unless it helps to eradicate islam from society within a few generations

but the trend is definitely downwards

I certainly care more about the eradication of islam than I do about any other religion

there are two important things in the world now, to preserve the structure of society as we know it for the immediate future, one is eradication of Islam, and the other is eradication of feminism

nothing comes even remotely close

and both are almost insurmountable

I have no idea how to effectively ban thought, and I don't believe it to be possible

banning thought can never be effective enough to ever warrant

and the negative consequences are so immense, that it is not even worth considering

instead of that, you could've said "I agree"

meh they said we couldn't beat Hillary and we did it 3 times

so anyway, the best solution I have for the short term is forcefully deport anyone who looks like a follower of islam, to a piece of land that we buy somewhere

put simply

then you might have assumed I agree that conquering islam and feminism is insurmountable, which I don't

I said almost