Iboga?

Not that pussy ibogaine shit

Let's fix all these heroin addicts

And veterans

Let's go full anarcho capatalism

:^)

Apparently you can get clinically treated with iboga here in Vancouver

I think anarcho capatalism is as bad as sociallism

Yes, that's one of the clincs in NA

@Shurik Alright, let's duke this out

Mexico too right

It's the same kind of utopian dream

How so?

There are plenty of imoral actors in the system

Absolute power dosen't corrupt absolutely, absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptable

Big government will just be replaced by big corporations that are accountable to noone.

@Fitzydog

@Shurik The only difference between a gov't that's not really accountable to the people, and a corporation that's accountable to profit, is that I can choose to not even associate with the latter.

I agree with that but I'm a fan of the government having a monopoly on force.

I think without property rights and free speech capitalism falls appart

And someone needs to enforce that and mob rule never protects the rights of the minority

Well, I guess it just comes down to a moral attitude about the whole situation.

Who's better at protecting your property rights right now? You and your insurance provider, or the police and the govt?

AnCaps aren't advocating for there to never be gov't ever, and for it to be outlawed, only to have the freedom to not associate with one

I don't think the global political climate is ready for something like that. It's as far feched and utopian as Communism.

people running around gunning eachother down and just taking houses sounds great tho

Life Battle royale

Fuck that shit fam

That's not ancaps lol

Tell me what your anarcho capatalism is?

If you got rid of gov'ts right now, would you even notice?

I've always viewed it as something along the lines of Snow Crash

Yes I would.

In your day to day life, how often do you interact with the govt?

Considering I go to a state university pretty often

Everyday, they kewp the school running, hospitals etc

Private companies run all of that better

@EmEm (no offense, but I'm going to keep this one on one lol)

Allright, il take a step back

I'm a classical liberal vergining on libertarian

lol OTHER than a state university, in the AVERAGE persons life, how often do they interact with the gov't?

Maybe their water company and the roads?

I agree with 95% of your platform.

@M4Gunner they cant kewp up with my arguments so better hush me down

My personal opinion and view on the matter is that you need a single body to have a monopoly on force in order to protect rule of law, and borders

After than the government can go fuck itself.

@Shurik I'd agree with borders only.

I don't think a private entity could do rule of law. I think a private entity can do borders thou

The floor was wiped with Cetronius. Never forget.

Why not? We already have private arbitration, and most issues between people are nothing more than a complex contract dispute

If a private entity starts doing rule of law it efficiently becomes the government because it gets a monopoly on force.

"doing rule of law"

Can you explain?

We need a few laws to be enforced in order to keep society running which more or less line up with the 10 commandments. Those laws need to be enforced equally on all parties for society to function for a prolonged period of time. Equally is a hard term to apply because all situations of breaking said law are different. Like manslaughter, vs 1st degree murder, vs 2nd degree, etc.

Making sure the equal enforcement of the law even accounting for differences in situation. @Fitzydog

Think of the social contract as a literal contract, and the "rule of law" as the rules of said contract.

In an AnCap scenario, there's no 'social contract', just the contracts made with other people based in business, or social circle, or location. The 'rule of law' would be different for each situation, just how any contract would be.

I understand where you're coming from, and it IS difficult to extrapolate realities from the abstract.

Can't the punishment for murder be agreed upon contractually? It (might) be different for separate groups, or an agreed upon standard may be set, who knows?

Look, who's going to associate with anyone who is unable to be accountable?

If the benefit is worth the risk

On mobile so quoting is hard

A lot of this is still hypothetical and based upon future-tech though, so it's neither here nor there.

Thing is, it *is* an interesting concept to mull over, and think about when it comes to shrinking the size of govt

Have you read Snow Crash? @Fitzydog

Yes, I have. It's a little bit hyperbolic in the way ancap is presented, but not far off

The reality is more constrained

I mean that's the point of the book.

right lol

I think the government outside of the FBI, CIA and department of state can be removed.

FUCK THAT

?

Those are the three things I wish to see destroyed in my lifetime XD

Department of state cause dealing with foreign affairs.

The US govt should be nothing more than a glorified border patrol

FBI will eat up the DEA, ICE, Border control etc

I don't think that'll work as well

Smaller the govt, the freer the man

Someone needs to enforce federl law inside

I agree.

The FBI only exists to enforce rule of law more or less

Like I said, "law" is just the rules of whatever contract you're in. If there's no fed to contract with, there's no need for federal law

I think we need a basic social contract. Its almost a biological need in my eyes

We need an over arching hierarchy to set the basic rules

What if I want to play by my rules, with other people, away from you? Did you know murder wasn't even made illegal in some places until the mid-1800s?

The floor was wiped with Cetronius. Never forget.

That's not to say there weren't repercussions though

so just watched the movie "Seven" and fuck

that was heavy

"WHAT'S IN THE BOOOOOX?"

@Fitzydog that's why you leave the area with said rules

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if you have a friend who is an alcoholic, and he is having a relapse and you find him on the floor drinking. What do you do?

And by "leaving", I'd go to a different town or city that I will enter into a social contract with, free from a federal "law" that seeks to impose it's rules in between me, and that location.

They don't have to let me in, and I don't have a right to go inside

I think some basic rules always need to he enforced. No exceptions. That's what the federal government is for

im actually a fond lover of the FBI

not the CIA tho

they do some stupid shit

CIA is a shitshow but a necessary evil in my eyes

how

so?

Like the government as a whole

@Shurik Well, I disagree. And that's that.

Now, by saying that, you wish to use force against me to exert your moral foundations. I wouldn't do that to you in AnCapistan, so why do that to me?

Putin

i dont follow

If the CIA isn't doing counter espionage on Putin he might topple the whole USA and western world

But that's a side conversation.

yeah............

.... that's retarded

im actually a fond lover of Putin too

but thats a "side" conversation

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Some morals needs to be enforced in order for society to function properly.

and Putin has the balls to do it

You don't have the right to beat me over the head for something I said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

i can sing this VERY LOUDLY THO

Dude Putin is a genius

@Shurik "function properly"

By YOUR standards. And only because you're afraid of the chance it might change underneath of you

i know

thats why my family voted for him

An evil genius

multiple times

Sameeeee

>.>

not me tho

cuz im murican

but my fam is ruski

Russian American

no

Born in Russian but live in USA

they are russian

yeah, ish?

they moved here like 6 years ago

Newbis, 17 years and counting

k?

ive been here for over 20 years, but w/e lol

@Fitzydog
Dude you need 2 things for society to function properly
1 protection from violence. Aka the person with the club dosen't take everything
2 Freedom of Speech.

@PurpleFyrus it was a joke -.-"

ah

@Shurik Yeah, you already have those. The gov't doesn't do shit for those two

not very funny one tbh

No, the only reason you have those is because the government protects those rights

lol okay, w/e

who is a gay boy?

ur dad

yo wtf

and you came out his dick hole

ban this

XD

Says the guy playing "Runelite"

runescape is OG

Black Desert > RunesGape

lol

fucking newfag

you da greyfag

@Fitzydog the government makes sure others don't infringe on those rights

true

gov's top priority is to enforce laws and protect rights

imho

Like that's the only reason to have a government

And all the government should do.

and to speak with other governments and prevent war

If it stops doing that you use the 2nd amendment to try again

The floor was wiped with Cetronius. Never forget.

wait

was centronius banned?

<@&464826200142118923> are you alive?

Who dat

Centronius

the roomba of the server

I was banned weeks ago

oh boy, here comes the arab

But people asked Meratrix to give me a second chance

ah

Why do you ask?

the message changed

It's because I left

from no longer pinging you

I came back after a few minutes

..........................................................

k

💦

that

No global emotes :(

was a gay reaction fail

yeah

you need Discord Nitro for that

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https://i.imgur.com/OW9jK6X.jpg

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@cataphrat1 that's gold

lol, the argument that "being civil" is exclusively a white thing is hilarious

also quite racist

in both ways

because it would insinuate that all blacks are inherently NOT civil

and theres no room for "Non-Civil" people in society

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i dont think that tho

just um, "rabbit holing" so to speak

I guess all black people are uncivilized, ill mannered pigs?

What else is new

The red lobsters are the boiled ones.

The floor was wiped with Cetronius. Never forget.

Lmfao

`facist`

A *face-ist*?

@Deleted User figure out the unblock yet

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33328/watch-antifa-tries-attack-activist-lauren-southern-amanda-prestigiacomo

Finally the police do their job

welllllllllll

kinda the same as when Milo was here

VIC police tried to send *him* the bill too

I wasn't actually planning on going

But maybe I will now

just for the spectacle if nothing else

Here I was thinking those cunts in Australia would know better than to get brainwashed by the regressive left

lolwut

🎩

Talking about the antifa protests and the apparent problems Australia is facing with identity politics. I thought they were all racists

@Werlf ye

ITS OUT LADS https://twitter.com/GlassMovie/status/1020446054175551489?s=19

What is it?

Glass!

The movie

From Shyamalan's superhero movies

Ohhhhhhh

It's a crossover between Split and Unbreakable

And it looks good man

glass is gonna be good

Hopefully

Shamalamadingdong

Split was amazing

who was the actor?

same guy that played professor X right?

in first class?

James mc avoy

I was totally blown away by how great he was in split

And more personalities are gonna be there this time

i see what you did there

<:ohsargon:451135765368274954>

Hehehehe

Aww that emote is adorable

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good point

WHY aren't there more Jews at UCLA?

fucking racists

The floor was wiped with Cetronius. Never forget.

Those are the gook supremacist universities

lol

Fun fact

James gunn made movie 43