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2018-07-21 04:05:35 UTC


2018-07-21 04:05:39 UTC

Not that pussy ibogaine shit

2018-07-21 04:05:46 UTC

Let's fix all these heroin addicts

2018-07-21 04:05:55 UTC

And veterans

2018-07-21 04:06:05 UTC

Let's go full anarcho capatalism

2018-07-21 04:06:09 UTC


2018-07-21 04:06:31 UTC


2018-07-21 04:06:46 UTC

Apparently you can get clinically treated with iboga here in Vancouver

2018-07-21 04:06:56 UTC

I think anarcho capatalism is as bad as sociallism

2018-07-21 04:06:58 UTC

Yes, that's one of the clincs in NA

2018-07-21 04:07:10 UTC

@Shurik Alright, let's duke this out

2018-07-21 04:07:12 UTC

Mexico too right

2018-07-21 04:07:15 UTC

It's the same kind of utopian dream

2018-07-21 04:07:20 UTC

How so?

2018-07-21 04:07:36 UTC

There are plenty of imoral actors in the system

2018-07-21 04:08:15 UTC

Absolute power dosen't corrupt absolutely, absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptable

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2018-07-21 04:08:50 UTC

Big government will just be replaced by big corporations that are accountable to noone.

2018-07-21 04:08:58 UTC
2018-07-21 04:09:55 UTC

@Shurik The only difference between a gov't that's not really accountable to the people, and a corporation that's accountable to profit, is that I can choose to not even associate with the latter.

2018-07-21 04:10:30 UTC

I agree with that but I'm a fan of the government having a monopoly on force.

2018-07-21 04:11:01 UTC

I think without property rights and free speech capitalism falls appart

2018-07-21 04:11:24 UTC

And someone needs to enforce that and mob rule never protects the rights of the minority

2018-07-21 04:12:39 UTC

Well, I guess it just comes down to a moral attitude about the whole situation.

Who's better at protecting your property rights right now? You and your insurance provider, or the police and the govt?

AnCaps aren't advocating for there to never be gov't ever, and for it to be outlawed, only to have the freedom to not associate with one

2018-07-21 04:13:53 UTC

I don't think the global political climate is ready for something like that. It's as far feched and utopian as Communism.

2018-07-21 04:14:19 UTC

people running around gunning eachother down and just taking houses sounds great tho

2018-07-21 04:14:28 UTC

Life Battle royale

2018-07-21 04:14:37 UTC

Fuck that shit fam

2018-07-21 04:14:40 UTC

That's not ancaps lol

2018-07-21 04:15:07 UTC

Tell me what your anarcho capatalism is?

2018-07-21 04:15:31 UTC

If you got rid of gov'ts right now, would you even notice?

2018-07-21 04:15:42 UTC

I've always viewed it as something along the lines of Snow Crash

2018-07-21 04:15:46 UTC

Yes I would.

2018-07-21 04:16:11 UTC

In your day to day life, how often do you interact with the govt?

2018-07-21 04:16:41 UTC

Considering I go to a state university pretty often

2018-07-21 04:16:42 UTC

Everyday, they kewp the school running, hospitals etc

2018-07-21 04:17:02 UTC

Private companies run all of that better

2018-07-21 04:17:11 UTC

@EmEm (no offense, but I'm going to keep this one on one lol)

2018-07-21 04:17:35 UTC

Allright, il take a step back

2018-07-21 04:18:09 UTC

I'm a classical liberal vergining on libertarian

2018-07-21 04:18:19 UTC

lol OTHER than a state university, in the AVERAGE persons life, how often do they interact with the gov't?

Maybe their water company and the roads?

2018-07-21 04:18:25 UTC

I agree with 95% of your platform.

2018-07-21 04:19:02 UTC

@M4Gunner they cant kewp up with my arguments so better hush me down

2018-07-21 04:19:28 UTC

My personal opinion and view on the matter is that you need a single body to have a monopoly on force in order to protect rule of law, and borders

2018-07-21 04:19:48 UTC

After than the government can go fuck itself.

2018-07-21 04:19:57 UTC

@Shurik I'd agree with borders only.

2018-07-21 04:20:29 UTC

I don't think a private entity could do rule of law. I think a private entity can do borders thou

2018-07-21 04:20:32 UTC

The floor was wiped with Cetronius. Never forget.

2018-07-21 04:21:11 UTC

Why not? We already have private arbitration, and most issues between people are nothing more than a complex contract dispute

2018-07-21 04:21:29 UTC

If a private entity starts doing rule of law it efficiently becomes the government because it gets a monopoly on force.

2018-07-21 04:22:04 UTC

"doing rule of law"

Can you explain?

2018-07-21 04:25:29 UTC

We need a few laws to be enforced in order to keep society running which more or less line up with the 10 commandments. Those laws need to be enforced equally on all parties for society to function for a prolonged period of time. Equally is a hard term to apply because all situations of breaking said law are different. Like manslaughter, vs 1st degree murder, vs 2nd degree, etc.

2018-07-21 04:26:58 UTC

Making sure the equal enforcement of the law even accounting for differences in situation. @Fitzydog

2018-07-21 04:29:36 UTC

Think of the social contract as a literal contract, and the "rule of law" as the rules of said contract.

In an AnCap scenario, there's no 'social contract', just the contracts made with other people based in business, or social circle, or location. The 'rule of law' would be different for each situation, just how any contract would be.

I understand where you're coming from, and it IS difficult to extrapolate realities from the abstract.

Can't the punishment for murder be agreed upon contractually? It (might) be different for separate groups, or an agreed upon standard may be set, who knows?

2018-07-21 04:30:26 UTC

Look, who's going to associate with anyone who is unable to be accountable?

2018-07-21 04:30:41 UTC

If the benefit is worth the risk

2018-07-21 04:32:11 UTC

On mobile so quoting is hard

2018-07-21 04:32:21 UTC

A lot of this is still hypothetical and based upon future-tech though, so it's neither here nor there.

Thing is, it *is* an interesting concept to mull over, and think about when it comes to shrinking the size of govt

2018-07-21 04:33:06 UTC

Have you read Snow Crash? @Fitzydog

2018-07-21 04:33:36 UTC

Yes, I have. It's a little bit hyperbolic in the way ancap is presented, but not far off

2018-07-21 04:33:54 UTC

The reality is more constrained

2018-07-21 04:34:01 UTC

I mean that's the point of the book.

2018-07-21 04:34:10 UTC

right lol

2018-07-21 04:35:02 UTC

I think the government outside of the FBI, CIA and department of state can be removed.

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2018-07-21 04:35:40 UTC

Those are the three things I wish to see destroyed in my lifetime XD

2018-07-21 04:35:50 UTC

Department of state cause dealing with foreign affairs.

2018-07-21 04:36:20 UTC

The US govt should be nothing more than a glorified border patrol

2018-07-21 04:36:28 UTC

FBI will eat up the DEA, ICE, Border control etc

2018-07-21 04:36:49 UTC

I don't think that'll work as well

2018-07-21 04:37:10 UTC

Smaller the govt, the freer the man

2018-07-21 04:37:11 UTC

Someone needs to enforce federl law inside

2018-07-21 04:37:16 UTC

I agree.

2018-07-21 04:37:40 UTC

The FBI only exists to enforce rule of law more or less

2018-07-21 04:37:49 UTC

Like I said, "law" is just the rules of whatever contract you're in. If there's no fed to contract with, there's no need for federal law

2018-07-21 04:38:19 UTC

I think we need a basic social contract. Its almost a biological need in my eyes

2018-07-21 04:39:02 UTC

We need an over arching hierarchy to set the basic rules

2018-07-21 04:40:24 UTC

What if I want to play by my rules, with other people, away from you? Did you know murder wasn't even made illegal in some places until the mid-1800s?

2018-07-21 04:40:27 UTC

The floor was wiped with Cetronius. Never forget.

2018-07-21 04:41:07 UTC

That's not to say there weren't repercussions though

2018-07-21 04:41:34 UTC

so just watched the movie "Seven" and fuck

2018-07-21 04:41:40 UTC

that was heavy

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2018-07-21 04:45:00 UTC

@Fitzydog that's why you leave the area with said rules

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2018-07-21 04:45:35 UTC

if you have a friend who is an alcoholic, and he is having a relapse and you find him on the floor drinking. What do you do?

2018-07-21 04:46:27 UTC

And by "leaving", I'd go to a different town or city that I will enter into a social contract with, free from a federal "law" that seeks to impose it's rules in between me, and that location.

2018-07-21 04:46:57 UTC

They don't have to let me in, and I don't have a right to go inside

2018-07-21 04:47:40 UTC

I think some basic rules always need to he enforced. No exceptions. That's what the federal government is for

2018-07-21 04:47:44 UTC

im actually a fond lover of the FBI

2018-07-21 04:47:48 UTC

not the CIA tho

2018-07-21 04:48:04 UTC

they do some stupid shit

2018-07-21 04:48:21 UTC

CIA is a shitshow but a necessary evil in my eyes

2018-07-21 04:48:26 UTC


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2018-07-21 04:48:28 UTC

Like the government as a whole

2018-07-21 04:48:30 UTC

@Shurik Well, I disagree. And that's that.

Now, by saying that, you wish to use force against me to exert your moral foundations. I wouldn't do that to you in AnCapistan, so why do that to me?

2018-07-21 04:48:33 UTC


2018-07-21 04:48:39 UTC

i dont follow

2018-07-21 04:49:21 UTC

If the CIA isn't doing counter espionage on Putin he might topple the whole USA and western world

2018-07-21 04:49:27 UTC

But that's a side conversation.

2018-07-21 04:49:32 UTC


2018-07-21 04:49:39 UTC

.... that's retarded

2018-07-21 04:49:47 UTC

im actually a fond lover of Putin too

2018-07-21 04:49:55 UTC

but thats a "side" conversation

2018-07-21 04:49:59 UTC


2018-07-21 04:50:06 UTC

Some morals needs to be enforced in order for society to function properly.

2018-07-21 04:50:16 UTC

and Putin has the balls to do it

2018-07-21 04:50:24 UTC

You don't have the right to beat me over the head for something I said.

2018-07-21 04:50:47 UTC

i can sing this VERY LOUDLY THO

2018-07-21 04:50:49 UTC

Dude Putin is a genius

2018-07-21 04:50:49 UTC

@Shurik "function properly"

By YOUR standards. And only because you're afraid of the chance it might change underneath of you

2018-07-21 04:50:53 UTC

i know

2018-07-21 04:50:59 UTC

thats why my family voted for him

2018-07-21 04:50:59 UTC

An evil genius

2018-07-21 04:51:02 UTC

multiple times

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2018-07-21 04:51:13 UTC

not me tho

2018-07-21 04:51:16 UTC

cuz im murican

2018-07-21 04:51:23 UTC

but my fam is ruski

2018-07-21 04:51:27 UTC

Russian American

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2018-07-21 04:51:36 UTC

Born in Russian but live in USA

2018-07-21 04:51:37 UTC

they are russian

2018-07-21 04:51:42 UTC

yeah, ish?

2018-07-21 04:51:49 UTC

they moved here like 6 years ago

2018-07-21 04:52:13 UTC

Newbis, 17 years and counting

2018-07-21 04:52:32 UTC


2018-07-21 04:52:47 UTC

ive been here for over 20 years, but w/e lol

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2018-07-21 04:53:45 UTC

Dude you need 2 things for society to function properly
1 protection from violence. Aka the person with the club dosen't take everything
2 Freedom of Speech.

2018-07-21 04:54:00 UTC

@PurpleFyrus it was a joke -.-"

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2018-07-21 04:54:16 UTC

@Shurik Yeah, you already have those. The gov't doesn't do shit for those two

2018-07-21 04:54:19 UTC

not very funny one tbh

2018-07-21 04:54:59 UTC

No, the only reason you have those is because the government protects those rights

2018-07-21 04:55:13 UTC

lol okay, w/e

2018-07-21 04:56:24 UTC

who is a gay boy?

2018-07-21 04:56:29 UTC

ur dad

2018-07-21 04:56:33 UTC

yo wtf

2018-07-21 04:56:35 UTC

and you came out his dick hole

2018-07-21 04:56:36 UTC

ban this

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2018-07-21 04:57:16 UTC

Says the guy playing "Runelite"

2018-07-21 04:57:32 UTC

runescape is OG

2018-07-21 04:57:44 UTC

Black Desert > RunesGape

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2018-07-21 04:57:58 UTC

fucking newfag

2018-07-21 04:58:09 UTC

you da greyfag

2018-07-21 04:58:10 UTC

@Fitzydog the government makes sure others don't infringe on those rights

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gov's top priority is to enforce laws and protect rights

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2018-07-21 04:58:56 UTC

Like that's the only reason to have a government

2018-07-21 04:59:04 UTC

And all the government should do.

2018-07-21 04:59:23 UTC

and to speak with other governments and prevent war

2018-07-21 04:59:27 UTC

If it stops doing that you use the 2nd amendment to try again

2018-07-21 05:00:28 UTC

The floor was wiped with Cetronius. Never forget.

2018-07-21 05:00:32 UTC


2018-07-21 05:00:39 UTC

was centronius banned?

2018-07-21 05:01:05 UTC

<@&464826200142118923> are you alive?

2018-07-21 05:01:15 UTC

Who dat

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2018-07-21 05:01:29 UTC

the roomba of the server

2018-07-21 05:02:09 UTC

I was banned weeks ago

2018-07-21 05:02:14 UTC

oh boy, here comes the arab

2018-07-21 05:02:26 UTC

But people asked Meratrix to give me a second chance

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2018-07-21 05:02:49 UTC

Why do you ask?

2018-07-21 05:02:55 UTC

the message changed

2018-07-21 05:03:01 UTC

It's because I left

2018-07-21 05:03:01 UTC

from no longer pinging you

2018-07-21 05:03:12 UTC

I came back after a few minutes

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No global emotes :(

2018-07-21 05:04:02 UTC

was a gay reaction fail

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2018-07-21 05:04:09 UTC

you need Discord Nitro for that

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2018-07-21 05:04:50 UTC

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2018-07-21 05:05:10 UTC

@cataphrat1 that's gold

2018-07-21 05:05:55 UTC

lol, the argument that "being civil" is exclusively a white thing is hilarious

2018-07-21 05:06:03 UTC

also quite racist

2018-07-21 05:06:05 UTC

in both ways

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because it would insinuate that all blacks are inherently NOT civil

2018-07-21 05:06:28 UTC

and theres no room for "Non-Civil" people in society

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2018-07-21 05:06:47 UTC

i dont think that tho

2018-07-21 05:07:12 UTC

just um, "rabbit holing" so to speak

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2018-07-21 05:29:31 UTC

I guess all black people are uncivilized, ill mannered pigs?

2018-07-21 05:29:34 UTC

What else is new

2018-07-21 05:29:47 UTC

The red lobsters are the boiled ones.

2018-07-21 05:30:13 UTC

The floor was wiped with Cetronius. Never forget.

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2018-07-21 05:30:34 UTC

A *face-ist*?

2018-07-21 05:31:14 UTC

@Deleted User figure out the unblock yet

2018-07-21 05:32:05 UTC

Finally the police do their job

2018-07-21 05:32:13 UTC


2018-07-21 05:32:19 UTC

kinda the same as when Milo was here

2018-07-21 05:32:26 UTC

VIC police tried to send *him* the bill too

2018-07-21 05:32:36 UTC

I wasn't actually planning on going

2018-07-21 05:32:39 UTC

But maybe I will now

2018-07-21 05:32:47 UTC

just for the spectacle if nothing else

2018-07-21 05:39:09 UTC

Here I was thinking those cunts in Australia would know better than to get brainwashed by the regressive left

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2018-07-21 05:42:17 UTC

Talking about the antifa protests and the apparent problems Australia is facing with identity politics. I thought they were all racists

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What is it?

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2018-07-21 05:51:22 UTC

The movie

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From Shyamalan's superhero movies

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It's a crossover between Split and Unbreakable

2018-07-21 05:52:03 UTC

And it looks good man

2018-07-21 05:52:08 UTC

glass is gonna be good

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Split was amazing

2018-07-21 05:52:24 UTC

who was the actor?

2018-07-21 05:52:29 UTC

same guy that played professor X right?

2018-07-21 05:52:32 UTC

in first class?

2018-07-21 05:52:50 UTC

James mc avoy

2018-07-21 05:53:19 UTC

I was totally blown away by how great he was in split

2018-07-21 05:53:32 UTC

And more personalities are gonna be there this time

2018-07-21 05:53:46 UTC

i see what you did there

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Aww that emote is adorable

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<:sargoy:382978736053551104> <:think_globalist:378717098945544192> <:think_hitlerdidnothingwrong:378717099952177162>


2018-07-21 05:59:22 UTC

good point

2018-07-21 05:59:28 UTC

WHY aren't there more Jews at UCLA?

2018-07-21 05:59:33 UTC

fucking racists

2018-07-21 06:00:15 UTC

The floor was wiped with Cetronius. Never forget.

2018-07-21 06:00:52 UTC

Those are the gook supremacist universities

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Fun fact

2018-07-21 06:07:06 UTC

James gunn made movie 43

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