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Remove America from all International Organizations.
You'll love HR 193, then
Fuck yeah. But more than just the UN
I believe there's an international organization that's just Latin America
if not a couple
And specific countries within Latin America have their own sub-groups and agreements
Well that's cool. Then they don't need another one with us involved.
Part of the reason Mattis is visiting around these other countries @Fitzydog is because China is skulking around, trying to scoop up the scraps like they're doing to Africa
@Legiondude Too bad.
Yeah, Argentina in particular seemed like it might try to team up with China in the field of space or something to that effect
because the ABC countries dynamic means that whenever one nation draws closer to another nation, the others take a different route
Brazil and Argentina especially
When Brazil was close with the US in the 30's, Argentina drew closer to Britain
And then suddenly, the Falklands
But yeah, as the chart above shows, we Americans (in the hemispheric sense) love our cliques of nations
OUT OUT OUT
You wanna make a deal? Well, you've got a phone don't ya? ๐
We just finished making a lovely one with Mexico
๐จ๐ฆ ๐ซ ๐บ๐ธ ๐ฒ๐ฝ
๐คท๐ป
Too bad canada
Get fucked, leafs
The OAS was better when it was the International Union of American Republics, comprising only the 25 independent republics of the American continent(s)
America was better when it didn't have to answer to the wishes of international organizations
You mean like the United Fruit Company days? ๐ค
Nah, just before that
So, when we kicked the British/French-installed monarchy out of Mexico and pressured Spain into releasing the Dominical Republic, right after our Civil War?
๐คท๐ป Sure why not? Just stop fucking with other countries.
That time we Made Mexico Great Again?
But isn't overthrowing a foreign monarchy in Mexico and kicking Spain completely out of the continents fucking with other countries? ๐ค
Yes, I didn't say repeat the past
Though kicking that monarchy out was actually really good move, as the monarchy was unpopular, so the US was working with the people of Mexico to restore the republic
Just to stop being part of so many multi-lateral, NGO written, corporate sponsored trade negotiations that have us locked into doing what some thrid world shithole wants, and funneling US tax dollars to foreign aid
That was all a direct result of the US basically needing to suspend the Monroe Doctrine to deal with the civil war internally
Turns out if you give the European powers an inch, they'll take a mile
Good thing they're not powers anymore
And they're not powers as a direct result of the US wrecking their shit via soft power and real politik
For all my disagreements with peacetime FDR, the guy was right on the Good Neighbor policy and on being anti-colonial with regard to the allies he ultimately picked
Spain's no longer a power as a result of the Spanish-American War seeing Spain lose all of its overseas colonial possessions
What I'd prefer: Build that damn wall, and just fly our Air Force back and forth across it, while our Navy does it's thing close to shore and protects US ships
And US ships will do their thing further away from shore
Nah, just to/from Hawaii
Pirate escort
Amend that to to/from Guam and the CNMI
Maybe Japan since we have a bilateral defense treaty with them
though they're increasingly becoming capable of defending themselves
w/e you get my fucking point. Enough of this NeoCon bullshit of "asserting dominance"
Yeah, I don't like the NeoCon overseas shit, either
I figure if we leave Europe and the Middle East alone, they'll rip themselves apart without our help
Then we get the bonus of not being a boogeyman for them to rally against
*And leave Latin America alone too.* lol
My only caveat of holding back from that is a Venezuela-style situation where the government collapsed, or a Cuba situation where a hermit kingdom formed, or something like the Football war
Let them fucking collapse. They need the hard lesson like Eastern Europe.
Yeah, but the question is what to do about it
NOTHING
You don't do shit
What does Colombia do about it, then?
Who the fuck cares?
The Colombians, I would imagine
and the Brazilians
because that situation is actively worsening from what I hear
โLetโs make ourselves open to attackโ
What a great fucking idea
Brazil's got a military, as well as Argentina and Chile. They can fix their own local shit LIKE I'VE SAID ALREADY
So are you advocating for a military intervention in Venezuela, or what?
........
because right now it's just civilians and police shooting each other from what I've heard
And?
@RMS_Gigantic heโs advocating to sit on our asses if one of the American states become a Chinese puppet
Pretty much
And Venezuela's just going to be anarchistic forever, I guess
lol if that's how you think gov't work, sure
because Brazil and Colombia have militaries that can sort things out as you say, but at the same time they shouldn't intervene?
@RMS_Gigantic Who said they shouldn't intervene?
What if an enemy takes control there?
Then they have a second jumping point.
If an "enemy" (who?) wants to take control of that mess, let them have that pox
It's a black hole of resources at this point
Unless you firebomb the place and build your own drilling rigs
The chair farce everybody
China, Russia, a new power that arises. Venuzuela has plenty of oil reserves for the taking. And again, it becomes an easy jump/supply point for a south american takeover or invasion on us
I'm not your god damn police man.
Your not. But we have to police our back yard, lest we let ourselves be vulnerable.
Central and south america are our back yard
Our "back yard" is Canada and Mexico.
And panama is critical as well
@Goblin_Slayer_Floki โsince Iโm a fucking pog, I donโt need to give a shit if those stinking grunts have to dieโ
Im not a pog lmao, and wasnt when i was in
Someone elses' grunts.
I was a combat engineer in the army you dolt
I wasnโt calling you a pog @Goblin_Slayer_Floki
Oh, my bad lmao
Panama's criticality is rather well demonstrated by China's interest in building a competing canal through an area the US considered soing so prior to the Panama Canal
That is, Nicaragua
So what are you saying? Let's just annex the whole damn continent, collapse the US under even MORE debt, and open the borders because now EVERYONE'S a citizen?
You dont have to annex you moron. Thats extreme.
You just cant go isolationist. We have to actively prevent non americas interferance
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