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2018-09-04 03:13:13 UTC

Remove America from all International Organizations.

2018-09-04 03:13:28 UTC

You'll love HR 193, then

2018-09-04 03:14:03 UTC

Fuck yeah. But more than just the UN

2018-09-04 03:14:33 UTC

I believe there's an international organization that's just Latin America

2018-09-04 03:14:38 UTC

if not a couple

2018-09-04 03:14:55 UTC

And specific countries within Latin America have their own sub-groups and agreements

2018-09-04 03:14:57 UTC

Well that's cool. Then they don't need another one with us involved.

2018-09-04 03:17:43 UTC

Part of the reason Mattis is visiting around these other countries @Fitzydog is because China is skulking around, trying to scoop up the scraps like they're doing to Africa

2018-09-04 03:18:09 UTC

@Legiondude Too bad.

2018-09-04 03:18:14 UTC

Yeah, Argentina in particular seemed like it might try to team up with China in the field of space or something to that effect

2018-09-04 03:18:53 UTC

because the ABC countries dynamic means that whenever one nation draws closer to another nation, the others take a different route

2018-09-04 03:19:02 UTC

Brazil and Argentina especially

2018-09-04 03:19:22 UTC

When Brazil was close with the US in the 30's, Argentina drew closer to Britain

2018-09-04 03:20:13 UTC

And then suddenly, the Falklands

2018-09-04 03:20:28 UTC

But yeah, as the chart above shows, we Americans (in the hemispheric sense) love our cliques of nations

2018-09-04 03:21:23 UTC

OUT OUT OUT

2018-09-04 03:21:53 UTC

You wanna make a deal? Well, you've got a phone don't ya? ๐Ÿ“ž

2018-09-04 03:22:51 UTC

We just finished making a lovely one with Mexico

2018-09-04 03:23:03 UTC

๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ”ซ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ

2018-09-04 03:23:11 UTC

๐Ÿคท๐Ÿป

2018-09-04 03:23:18 UTC

Too bad canada

2018-09-04 03:23:27 UTC

Get fucked, leafs

2018-09-04 03:23:43 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/486375783519223816/Canada_mistake.png

2018-09-04 03:25:55 UTC

The OAS was better when it was the International Union of American Republics, comprising only the 25 independent republics of the American continent(s)

2018-09-04 03:26:42 UTC

America was better when it didn't have to answer to the wishes of international organizations

2018-09-04 03:27:03 UTC

You mean like the United Fruit Company days? ๐Ÿค”

2018-09-04 03:27:17 UTC

Nah, just before that

2018-09-04 03:28:04 UTC

So, when we kicked the British/French-installed monarchy out of Mexico and pressured Spain into releasing the Dominical Republic, right after our Civil War?

2018-09-04 03:29:10 UTC

๐Ÿคท๐Ÿป Sure why not? Just stop fucking with other countries.

2018-09-04 03:29:13 UTC

That time we Made Mexico Great Again?

2018-09-04 03:29:58 UTC

But isn't overthrowing a foreign monarchy in Mexico and kicking Spain completely out of the continents fucking with other countries? ๐Ÿค”

2018-09-04 03:30:14 UTC

Yes, I didn't say repeat the past

2018-09-04 03:31:03 UTC

Though kicking that monarchy out was actually really good move, as the monarchy was unpopular, so the US was working with the people of Mexico to restore the republic

2018-09-04 03:31:33 UTC

Just to stop being part of so many multi-lateral, NGO written, corporate sponsored trade negotiations that have us locked into doing what some thrid world shithole wants, and funneling US tax dollars to foreign aid

2018-09-04 03:31:41 UTC

That was all a direct result of the US basically needing to suspend the Monroe Doctrine to deal with the civil war internally

2018-09-04 03:31:53 UTC

Turns out if you give the European powers an inch, they'll take a mile

2018-09-04 03:32:15 UTC

Good thing they're not powers anymore

2018-09-04 03:32:53 UTC

And they're not powers as a direct result of the US wrecking their shit via soft power and real politik

2018-09-04 03:33:28 UTC

For all my disagreements with peacetime FDR, the guy was right on the Good Neighbor policy and on being anti-colonial with regard to the allies he ultimately picked

2018-09-04 03:34:23 UTC

Spain's no longer a power as a result of the Spanish-American War seeing Spain lose all of its overseas colonial possessions

2018-09-04 03:34:34 UTC

What I'd prefer: Build that damn wall, and just fly our Air Force back and forth across it, while our Navy does it's thing close to shore and protects US ships

2018-09-04 03:35:12 UTC

And US ships will do their thing further away from shore

2018-09-04 03:36:01 UTC

Nah, just to/from Hawaii

2018-09-04 03:36:13 UTC

Pirate escort

2018-09-04 03:36:58 UTC

Amend that to to/from Guam and the CNMI

2018-09-04 03:37:09 UTC

Maybe Japan since we have a bilateral defense treaty with them

2018-09-04 03:37:30 UTC

though they're increasingly becoming capable of defending themselves

2018-09-04 03:37:33 UTC

w/e you get my fucking point. Enough of this NeoCon bullshit of "asserting dominance"

2018-09-04 03:37:50 UTC

Yeah, I don't like the NeoCon overseas shit, either

2018-09-04 03:38:07 UTC

I figure if we leave Europe and the Middle East alone, they'll rip themselves apart without our help

2018-09-04 03:38:31 UTC

Then we get the bonus of not being a boogeyman for them to rally against

2018-09-04 03:38:51 UTC

*And leave Latin America alone too.* lol

2018-09-04 03:40:03 UTC

My only caveat of holding back from that is a Venezuela-style situation where the government collapsed, or a Cuba situation where a hermit kingdom formed, or something like the Football war

2018-09-04 03:40:44 UTC

Let them fucking collapse. They need the hard lesson like Eastern Europe.

2018-09-04 03:40:54 UTC

Yeah, but the question is what to do about it

2018-09-04 03:40:58 UTC

NOTHING

2018-09-04 03:41:03 UTC

You don't do shit

2018-09-04 03:41:12 UTC

What does Colombia do about it, then?

2018-09-04 03:41:19 UTC

Who the fuck cares?

2018-09-04 03:41:29 UTC

The Colombians, I would imagine

2018-09-04 03:41:31 UTC

and the Brazilians

2018-09-04 03:41:41 UTC

because that situation is actively worsening from what I hear

2018-09-04 03:41:54 UTC

โ€œLetโ€™s make ourselves open to attackโ€

2018-09-04 03:42:00 UTC

What a great fucking idea

2018-09-04 03:42:02 UTC

Brazil's got a military, as well as Argentina and Chile. They can fix their own local shit LIKE I'VE SAID ALREADY

2018-09-04 03:42:27 UTC

So are you advocating for a military intervention in Venezuela, or what?

2018-09-04 03:42:45 UTC

........

2018-09-04 03:42:59 UTC

because right now it's just civilians and police shooting each other from what I've heard

2018-09-04 03:43:06 UTC

And?

2018-09-04 03:43:17 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic heโ€™s advocating to sit on our asses if one of the American states become a Chinese puppet

2018-09-04 03:43:31 UTC

Pretty much

2018-09-04 03:43:53 UTC

And Venezuela's just going to be anarchistic forever, I guess

2018-09-04 03:44:08 UTC

lol if that's how you think gov't work, sure

2018-09-04 03:44:18 UTC

because Brazil and Colombia have militaries that can sort things out as you say, but at the same time they shouldn't intervene?

2018-09-04 03:44:36 UTC

@RMS_Gigantic Who said they shouldn't intervene?

2018-09-04 03:45:09 UTC

What if an enemy takes control there?

2018-09-04 03:45:25 UTC

Then they have a second jumping point.

2018-09-04 03:45:48 UTC

If an "enemy" (who?) wants to take control of that mess, let them have that pox

2018-09-04 03:46:16 UTC

It's a black hole of resources at this point

2018-09-04 03:46:47 UTC

Unless you firebomb the place and build your own drilling rigs

2018-09-04 03:46:49 UTC

The chair farce everybody

2018-09-04 03:47:05 UTC

China, Russia, a new power that arises. Venuzuela has plenty of oil reserves for the taking. And again, it becomes an easy jump/supply point for a south american takeover or invasion on us

2018-09-04 03:47:25 UTC

I'm not your god damn police man.

2018-09-04 03:47:55 UTC

Your not. But we have to police our back yard, lest we let ourselves be vulnerable.

2018-09-04 03:48:09 UTC

Central and south america are our back yard

2018-09-04 03:48:09 UTC

Our "back yard" is Canada and Mexico.

2018-09-04 03:48:49 UTC

And panama is critical as well

2018-09-04 03:48:52 UTC

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki โ€œsince Iโ€™m a fucking pog, I donโ€™t need to give a shit if those stinking grunts have to dieโ€

2018-09-04 03:49:12 UTC

Im not a pog lmao, and wasnt when i was in

2018-09-04 03:49:16 UTC

Someone elses' grunts.

2018-09-04 03:49:28 UTC

I was a combat engineer in the army you dolt

2018-09-04 03:49:45 UTC

I wasnโ€™t calling you a pog @Goblin_Slayer_Floki

2018-09-04 03:49:56 UTC

Oh, my bad lmao

2018-09-04 03:50:02 UTC

Panama's criticality is rather well demonstrated by China's interest in building a competing canal through an area the US considered soing so prior to the Panama Canal

2018-09-04 03:50:06 UTC

That is, Nicaragua

2018-09-04 03:51:01 UTC

So what are you saying? Let's just annex the whole damn continent, collapse the US under even MORE debt, and open the borders because now EVERYONE'S a citizen?

2018-09-04 03:51:20 UTC

You dont have to annex you moron. Thats extreme.

2018-09-04 03:51:53 UTC

You just cant go isolationist. We have to actively prevent non americas interferance

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