Let's keep it that way

because French Guiana *is* a part of the EU

You think Muzzies are organized enough to assert Naval dominance in the Atlantic?

so if France does something stupid, that becomes Suriname's and Brazil's problem, I'd argue

At the time of the monroe doctrine europe had some territories in south america still.

Iirc

They still do

North America arguably as well

with Canada sharing a monarch with the UK

@RMS_Gigantic French Guiana is as much "France" as American Samoa is American

It just prevevented then from expanding

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki Aye, which is why the US almost went to war against Britain in 1895 over British Guyana trying to expand its border into Venezuela

How does France do something "stupid"? With what?

Border incursions, I'd argue in a realistic sense

*In the Caribbean.*

lol

I've heard French Guyana compared more to Hawaii than American Samoa

Them and what Navy? For what gains? This isn't some fucking game of Risk. Countries don't just invade each other out of spite, or on a whim.

due to its more central political status

Islam has a long history of having bloody borders, I'm sure you know

You yourself argued that Europe seems likely to fall to Islam

You think these migrants are intelligent enough to successfully take over the French Republic, and all of its international territories, *and* pull off a Naval campaign against a foreign country on the other side of the planet?

I said *fall* to Islam.

Not be taken over lol

Actually, that raises an interesting question of what a sixth French republic would look like 🤔

given how the Fifth one fell

Guyana is more likely to just declare itself its own nation.

I hope they do someday

Which brings us back to your video-game inspired nerd fantasy of Islamic Europe taking over South America as if they were some tactical geniuses

Yeah, I was being a fucking moron

though I do still like the idea of an Americas-spanning mutual defense pact

I like the Idea of South America finding its own strength for once

I'm on board with that; hell, I sympathize with Bolivar

You won't find it in any articles or on news channels, but the US is in South America quite a bit, fighting their drug war for them.

Our Secretary of Defense also recently concluded a week-long trip to South America, traveling to Brazil, Argentina, Chile, an Colombia

In his speeches down there, he talked a lot about basically the concept of Pan-Americanism in a hemispheric defense sense

~~He also referred to "Americans" as "North Americans"~~

I know "North American" is an English translation of the Portrugese term for someone from the USA, but *the memes*

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phrasing...

The infection. *It's spreading.*

What are we looking at here @Fitzydog ?

Ceded territory

Ceded to...?

Leftist, socialist, zombies

Ah

We must cordon off the safe areas

Denver has to get nuked. Sorry, but it's kinda just in the middle there

When's Colombia gonna reform Gran Colombia already?

Venezuela's gone under, and Panama and Ecuador use the US dollar as their official currencies, so if Colombia just says the word when their ~~troops~~ bureaucrats are poised....

Guyana's got a population sink that feeds directly to the US, last I heard

~~Perfect, we can send them back so that they can demand a referendum on US annexation, Republic of Texas style~~

I have a book, brought up before on this discord, about potential and proposed states where the author actually advocated for that.

Partly human rights, partly environmentalism, partly because it's *right next to Venezuela's oil reserves* and partly because NASA can get an easier liftoff with a launchpad closer to the Equator

And who's going to keep the population is check?

Or make sure they don't flood the US?

Or bring their living standard up to US standards?

Private companies on that last point

But that bit about the NASA launch site and space in general is part of why the US is focused on getting closer ties with Brazil

Oh yeah, let's create another Banana republic. Bring back the United Fruit Company!

Well private companies are a huge part of the US standard of living

From Wal-Mart to McDonald's

Dirt cheap cost of living

You think they don't already exist down there?

I'm talking over a century of shoddy construction and infrastructure, as well as a populace who is engrained with the idea that gov't corruption is just the default position to be taken

Well then step 1 is improving infrastructure, and the current US administration is considering that a vital point

Granted, South America's position is far trickier with the rainforests or whatnot

@RMS_Gigantic hello my fellow American imperialist

Or.... don't be a retard and go on colonizing sprees in Central America?

French Guyana's already "colonized"

What is your obsession with Guyana?

French Guiana specifically, because its national capital is outside of the Americas

Half the Caribbean is made of colonies.

Fuckin' ruins OAS maps, I tell you what

Aye, and ideally they, too, should have capitals also in the Americas

Hell, I consider those regions small fries compared to Canada, which is fucking massive and has a foreign head of state

Who cares where their capital is?

Self-determination and an ability to participate in hemispheric issues, I'd say

@Deleted User Greetings! How are you furthering the strategic goal of Manifest Destiny this fine day?

It's this line of thinking that got us into shit like Afghanistan

Thank god McCain isn't around anymore to spout this lol

Afghanistan's squarely Old World, and like the Old World nations, they're 1) prone to warring against themselves and 2) to my view, not the US's problem

or the problem of any of the other members of the OAS

aside from, well, the OAS members that are also members of the British Commonwealth of Nations, like Canada and Belize

I had to look up what the hell the OAS is

Looks like another international welfare scam

It might best be described as a UN, but with less teeth and only in the Americas

So irrelevant that the only debate is whether they're just mostly, or flat out entirely, useless

which to my mind makes them a fine international organization