XD

these kinds of ppl are just lucky that most of us are civil

otherwise i would expect more townhall shooting

with good reasons too

not just small ones

Don't know, but there really should be. Though I have no idea what they told him

it was all over twitter

and then things went silent on it

so im wondering if it is currently under review as well

I barely ever go on twitter. Unless someone mentions it on Youtube or Discord I probably wouldn't know what they said there

Same

I avoid most social media tbh

Tommy and people like us will never get justice in the courts

or a fair trial

Courts are suprisingly good at getting justice. At least here in America.

Will if they don't have a fair trial you wont either @Over.9000.Pepes

i dont do twitter either but

it was mentioned so i went looking

and end up on twitter

the jury was selected so there was no chance of jury tampering unless they intentionally went looking for stuff on the case

i gues they dont practice jury cloistering in uk?

if not they are fucking retarded

it is costly but

better than arresting ppl fo reporting on the case

We never have a jury here :3

XD

Where are you baraban?

thats not justice

Israel

bench trial only?

that sucks

sometimes xD

depending on the case

We judges

Usually several

Bench trials have their advantages but trial by jury should be given as well.

rather be tried by my peers then by a judge with their own motivations

this made me wonder

Most judges are fair and balanced people. And they know the law well.

To be fair the jury is probably less familier with the law

is there such a thing as venue change in the uk?

They are trained in not being manipulated

Juries can be a weakpoint

judges are looking to the future, what job next, maybe a politician

ya but i would judge the two choices based on the knowledge the jury has and the judge has

Not always

certain amount of convictions in one type of criminal act make you look tough on that good for campaign

And judges *hate* other judges who weild power unjustly.

The legal system is very rigorous

At least in the US

legal system is fucked

I'll admit it has flaws. But it's good way more often than it's bad.

I think the main the problem with most legal systems in the west (especially the US) is that it's too dependent on money

The one with more money win isn't justice

That rarely happens tbh

I'm saying that based on the trials I heard about

Trials you have heard about are a tiny tiny tiny minority of all trials given.

Most Youtubers who been sued say they wouldn't have been able to handle it without so many people backing them up with money

Remeber to always know your sample size

that would be cases where people are suing each other

Torts need serious reform

Torts is the part of American justice that need the most work

whaats torts

I know the legal process can cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars for one side in one case. That's not anecdotal

a wrongful act or an infringement of a right (other than under contract) leading to civil legal liability.

You can't fight a legal battle if you can't pay 10k

Many lawyers will work for a cut of winnings though.

we have no win no charge lawyers here

I don't think it's just lawyers

And if you are defending there are no winnings

Court fees aren't owed typically until after it's settled

but we are talking about the law here not other things

@dasuberuser Seems like it wasn't the case with Youtubes

Consider that people lie

hopefully sargon will win his case soon

You think Sargon and Ethan lied just to get the money?

I kinda doubt that

no

Maybe they did or didn't

and if they did 👏 👏 they put on one hell of a performance

I am not too familiar with UK courts

https://musescore.com/zanderquintenkelly/faeries-fantasma an original song-o

thoughts?

Dankula also said he would need 100k (though he considered that to be the highest estimate)

In the US you don't pay a dime until after the case

No

he is trying to get a conviction overturned though so he is gonna need all the top lawyers in scotland

Ethan was sued in the US

I think Sargon was too

was? HAS he won?

yeah thats where sargons case is happening

Then he is either lying. Or having to pay his lawyer upfront

pay a dime to the person who is suing you is what he is trying to say i think

But he could get a lawyer to do it for winnings cut unless his case is super shakey

I don't know who ethan is btw

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Still unfamiliar