would gypsies survive the collapse of civilization?

Due to relatiely shorter timespan of decay

I think they just might

@fallot more importantly, would other people tolerate them in their vicinity ?

they already don't

that's a given

the key would be always maintaining a balance between how much they dislike you

and how much they are willing to do about it

before you move

they've done it ably for a long time

you are not correct

i remember even here, and this is not the most tolerant place in the world

gypsy behavior towards normal people

was strictly reserved, submissive and careful

that's part of the decay of the west

a gipsy didnt dare insult our man or woman

even gypsies got uppity

why not?

they'll get away with it

today yes

when you start impaling them

they will be nicer

but even 30-40 years ago, even under communism

gypsies didnt dare mess with normal people or insult them

they begged sure, made jokes sure

but never threw insults

makes sense

today

you get away with what you can get away with you know

they will spit on people, be agressive towards them

they will come to you and say something in albanian, like a curse or sth

even little children

and people of course, dont react, which is why they started doing it

the answer to that doesn't really lie in the gypsies, I hope you can see, I can understand the ire though

the other day i had to spank a couple of times some gipsy kiddo who even turned around to me and was like "did you say something" in a taunting way

with umbrella

he would back down

he was like 90% sure he got me

thats how bold they are now

what happened after

he vanished, normally

yeah, you guys should go back to beating gypsies

it's the appropriate response

there is no "guys"

thats the whole point

if there were "guys" which implies "us" as a collective

whatever size group you want

there would be no mess

some bonds dont break

but we are now individuals who have to defend even basic preconditions of dignity

i.e. not allow a gipsy to curse you or spit on you for no reason

Welcome to the west

while only a moment ago he begged for money

I didn't know it was that bad even in montenegro

I think Romanians still beat gypsies

it's not that bad

but it *is*

the rest is just numbers

they make up small population

but if they made up 20%, how would we react ?

their lifestyles aren't sustainable

judging by current spirits, probably poorly

at that number

they would probably still not be nice

gypsies would be shot

first thing

fallot

you are going round in circles

in central and eastern europe

trying to prove me nothig

not at all

they would just lead them out and go boom

oh yes they would

in Hungary

I'm not arguing with you

i told you a quite evident, real thing

basedin reality

Gypsies are the lowest of the low

thanks for that

that's unfolding

im not theoretizing here

I didn't say it's not taking place

that thing is called toleranec

and it's consequences

I just said the problem isn't primarily in the gypsies

aren't you agreeing?

No it's with the gypsies

You don't see the vietnamese in budapest robbing people

or the chinese

Yes, I was *preciselly* talking about how people react to gypsies, which is basically US

They *tolerate* them

if you see a group of chinese people or jews or even muslims

on the side of the road

And I merely stated why they should not

you don't run to hte other side

I quite agree they shouldn't

i know people who have stabbed gypsies in hungary

gypsies called hte cops

cops beat up the gypsies

failed robberies

Thats great @Death Strike's Bat

gypsies are the scum of the earth. they teach the children to fake being retarded.

almost all the current pornstars in eastern europe outside of russia

are gypsies

including france

France they're mostly Arabic or Gypsies

like pre intenret, you would see a lot of czech women as pornstars

now it's all gypsies as gonzo porn pays poorly

Cops beat up the gypsies, wew

gypsies teach their ki sto pretend to be retarded

to collect welfare

they also have tons of kids

hoping for welfare

starting atage 15 or 16

Gypsies are the only ethnic group I automatically distrust upfront. I have heard too many negative testimonies from too many disparate people spanning too long a length of time for it to be a coincidence.

And I have collected two more today.

this whole democratic approach towards such groups "let them do their own thing"

is something that is long due to be discarded

I feel like that is fair and I would defend this distrust to anyone else in the same manner.

Who tells you that regarding gypsies @The Enlightened Shepherd?

But i do agree that the hour is already too late to make that any kind of priority of things that need to be done

@Mosely#0522 what exactly ?

Have you heard a "Let them do their own thing" argument regarding Gypsies specifically? Local people I mean?

people in general

like "they suck but leave them"

Im not in any kind of willingful contact with them whatsoever

What does that mean, that I'm supposed to be happy that they pollute my space at will ?

An easy opinion to take for people who don't ever plan to come across any.

yeah

IRL, genocide is peace

And bear in mind

The only requirement of me is not to be completely filthy and barbarous

Like approaching me begging, uttering words in a language I don't understand and using foul language at me unprovoked

No other group does that

niggers do it

Yet, people are like "well, they are gypsies so it's normal"

Why

Why are they the only ones allowed to be completely abhorrent

that's what's so funny to me

arabs do that too

having separate standards for separate groups is extreme racism

Some people take that same attitude with black people. Leftists do so in practice. It is stupid and condescending.

@Salt These invaders do

But in Paris I've seen plenty of Arabs who were probably there for some time

tolerating TNB from niggers but expecting perfect behavior from whites is an open admission that niggers are inferior

every white does that while still saying they are not racist

Who behaved civilized, silent etc

Even serene they can be in their appearance

I am starting to give up on whites to the point of being willing to accept the lightest of light browns

Yeah, I live in France, and that's how they say that assimilation is good

obviously, fake refugees or invaders are the latest wave of pure scum of humankind

What I mean is, that there were probably better sort of Arabs who immigrated France some time ago

But when you open valves, pecentages do their own thing and now it's 90% scum

And the expectations downturn as percentages do their thing.

Expectations of civility, I mean.

So basically, people expect *you* to not have any standards

As a *default* behavior

Which is democracy 101

I don't buy that

Even worse, the bare minimum is not allowed of you

And any display of intolerance to abnormality is therefore a complete tyranny and monstroustity according to these standards

Westerners need to rediscover pride and violence, being proud of being themselves and just not caring about the rest of the world

the feeling of guilt inherant to many westerners is retarded

useless and impotent

their guilt is a defense mechanism called "reaction formation"

basically they have an unconscious desire to be racist and proud, but their conscience, programmed by years of social conditioning, forbids them from just being proud and racist. Instead they go on self deprecating and anti racist tirades, totally unprovoked

jobs are basically obsessive-compulsive behaviors that are used as a compensation

explain

most of it is retarded and they know it, but somehow, they feel useful doing it (no guilt)

that is not obsessive compulsion

i'm not a psychologist or whatever, but westerners are quite obsessed with every events that happen at their jobs

I would not use the term obsessive compulsion then

but yes, westerners and especially americans are retards who think job = identity and life

I am treated as a winner for being in my field, but if I stopped tomorrow, despite being the same person I was yesterday, suddenly I would be a loser in the eyes of most

wait a minute

there's nothing wrong with that

you mean if you quit your job people will think you're a loser?

I think they'd be in their rights.

unless there was some mitigating information

“I’m looking for ten thousand in the midst of the million. Ten thousand men who say, ‘death is sweeter than continued life under tyranny.

“Death is sweeter than to continue to live and bury our children, while white folks give the killer hamburgers.

“Death is sweeter... than watching us slaughter each other, to the joy of a 400-year-old enemy. Yes, death is sweeter.

“The Quran teaches persecution is worse than slaughter. Then it says, ‘retaliation is prescribed in matters of the slain.’ Retaliation is a prescription from God [beats his breast], to calm the breast of those whose children have been slain.

“So if the federal government will not intercede in our affairs, then we must rise up and kill those who kill us. Stalk them and kill them and let them feel the pain of death that we are feeling.”

This excerpt from a 2015 Louis Farrakhan speech made me laugh.

Because he squarely pushes the blame for burg on the white man.

Farrakhan. 👽

Jingle bombs for Syria

Or #BombsOutForSyria

http://www.deathmetal.org/news/google-endorses-diversity-multiculturalism-and-antisemitism/

Terrible, difficult to read rant

http://charltonteaching.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/a-walk-in-country-metaphysics-of-life.html

@The Enlightened Shepherd you may find the above useful, maybe

@fallot listen to what i posted in higbrow

@fallot ok i had to stop immediatelly

the author does not understand the concept of metaphysics at all

furthermore, his observations are rather womanish and childish

lol

"it spoils everything !"

no

you have to raise above that

And this one for @diversity_is_racism

http://charltonteaching.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/what-state-of-consciousness-are-we.html?m=1

the author is criticizing people who can contemplate on the world without suffering mental separations and anxieties

or stating his own lack of this capacity whichever it is

Seems to very much be metaphysics

This guy has already been past that stage

this is preciselly what is nauseating about for example, this eco-paganism

Dont assume too much

to them there's nothing above "blue skies" and "green grass"

Whatever is above it

Means as little as it

Nothing at all

"What shall we think of the attitude that regards Jewry, Rome, the Catholic Church, Freemasonry, and Communism as more or less one and the same thing, just because their presuppositions differ from the plain thinking of the Folk? The Folk’s thinking along these lines threatens to lose itself in the dark, where no differentiation is possible any more. It shows that it has lost the genuine feeling for the hierarchy of values, and that it cannot escape the crippling alternative of destructive internationalism and nationalistic particularism, whereas the traditional understanding of the Empire is superior to both these concepts."

"how many terms can i fit into this essay?'

What Charlton refers to is rather more basic than the above

Which itself is dumb frankly

fallot nobody likes charlton

You dont understand me

At the very least we should put the moratorium on the word "meaning"

From any future discourses

Why

Seems quite obviously essential to the human experience

at the end

I am not being relatavistic or postmodernistic with that term

this post gets better actually

the first part is forgettable

actually they are disjointed

Maybe the second link would have been better to read

what he says after"A better metaphysics " has no stablished connection to what he says prior to it

@The Enlightened Shepherd how hairy are your ears?

Well the first perception is based off some assumptions about reality and existence

Which are metaphysics

@Horns not much

good

@Horns you cant get worse

fallot has brubru learned to name the jew yet

This is the worst

what do you mean

i was just quoting oz

Modern men simply succumb to anxieties and mental rifts, and not even philosophers are immune

This kind of thinking was overcome like 2000 years ago

Reccurred during rennaisance

And was again demolished by Nietzsche

And NO, it's not called realism !

And has nothing to do with "realistic thinking at all"

christian filosoffers seemed pretty anxious

It simply defends the right of a philospher to conemplate *WITHOUT LAMENTING*

Incoherent

You can keep that attitude with any assumption

By not lamenting you mean

Ignoring humanity while they philosophiE

Any Philosophy which does ot deal with possibilities, but starts with "IT JUST CAN'T BE!" as a premise, has long been overcome

Great