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2017-04-04 14:38:35 UTC

but in itself it's not what you should be after theoretically

2017-04-04 14:38:54 UTC

the question becomes: how do you test for what you want

2017-04-04 14:39:10 UTC

it's easy for metal music, tests for discernment require exposure to the music and noting the response

2017-04-04 14:39:25 UTC

I think when it comes to a topic like the alt right

2017-04-04 14:40:10 UTC

the only possible test would be how original they are, how many ideas they come up with, and whether they are reasonably positively disposed to the altright/related ideas

2017-04-04 14:40:55 UTC

because if there is any other bar, you will instead be testing for ideological purity in a roundabout way

2017-04-04 14:41:20 UTC

Yeah

2017-04-04 14:44:30 UTC

linking this to ANUS

2017-04-04 14:44:52 UTC

the DLA acted as a kind of sieve for such people, because simply appreciating the music at that level requires something

2017-04-04 14:45:13 UTC

but at the same time, such people are ornery, difficult to control etc.

2017-04-04 14:45:37 UTC

and apt to do their own thing every now and then

2017-04-04 14:50:35 UTC

By the mid 1980s I noticed that the last real English poets were dying and that there was nobody to replace them. For the first time in several centuries, there was not one single living poet of real stature.

Looking around, the same situation was looming in science - and by now there are just a few elderly remnants of previous generations who might be regarded as geniuses. Medical breakthroughs also began drying up at about this time (although there have not been many major medical geniuses, according to Murrayโ€™s lists).

2017-04-04 14:50:44 UTC

and the same situation was visible in metal music

2017-04-04 14:50:49 UTC

and popular music

2017-04-04 14:51:06 UTC

and even such throwaway stuff as hollywood movies

2017-04-04 14:52:32 UTC

It's funny that we can see the above occur

2017-04-04 14:52:53 UTC

but the only attitude it results in is a passive acknowledgment or at best a tepid one

2017-04-04 14:53:06 UTC

and this is always presented in an "of course" way

2017-04-04 14:53:15 UTC

"of course the NSA engages in mass surveillance"

2017-04-04 14:53:21 UTC

"of course politicians are corrupt"

2017-04-04 14:54:23 UTC

Maybe that's why we need child sex revelations, but we may find that even when those come, the attitude is similar

2017-04-04 14:54:27 UTC

though I don't think so

2017-04-04 15:52:34 UTC

"the second bomb was defused" TYPICAL PUTINISM

2017-04-04 15:52:44 UTC

"WE DIDNT TURN OUT COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT"

2017-04-04 16:09:20 UTC

@The Enlightened Shepherd what do you think about Putin?

2017-04-04 16:09:26 UTC

say some words, tell me how you really feel

2017-04-04 16:10:06 UTC

Putin understands everything about power but lacks understanding in dynamics

2017-04-04 16:10:13 UTC

As all apparatchiks

2017-04-04 16:10:42 UTC

They think the outcome in dealing with humans, is always about proper actions, in mechanical sense

2017-04-04 16:11:54 UTC

Are you Russian

2017-04-04 16:12:08 UTC

He is more comfortable with "serving" his nation (which is always partially also a self-service) than actually *leading* it

2017-04-04 16:12:14 UTC

No

2017-04-04 16:19:15 UTC

Interesting point

2017-04-04 16:20:37 UTC

I think you're wrong about that

2017-04-04 16:20:39 UTC

Russian leadership is still stuck in Soviet times

2017-04-04 16:20:44 UTC

Putin is no apparatchik

2017-04-04 16:20:48 UTC

Thinking they are some kind of global "pole"

2017-04-04 16:20:57 UTC

Putin is a definition of an apparatchik

2017-04-04 16:20:59 UTC

He understand people very well indeed

2017-04-04 16:21:14 UTC

If there was a definition of apparatchik in dictionary, his picture should be right next to it

2017-04-04 16:21:43 UTC

Really? Putin would be in the dictionary under the definition of bureacratic functionary?

2017-04-04 16:21:51 UTC

That's how governments in the East operate

2017-04-04 16:21:55 UTC

People are hungry

2017-04-04 16:21:57 UTC

therefore

2017-04-04 16:21:59 UTC

I think that's very unfair, though I have significant issues with Putin

2017-04-04 16:22:00 UTC

we need this, that

2017-04-04 16:22:02 UTC

Putin has a broad vision

2017-04-04 16:22:04 UTC

in these quantities

2017-04-04 16:22:17 UTC

in order to supply these demands we must twist this hand, that hand, extort this money

2017-04-04 16:22:19 UTC

from these people

2017-04-04 16:22:25 UTC

my power is in danger

2017-04-04 16:22:27 UTC

therefore

2017-04-04 16:22:28 UTC

remove this man

2017-04-04 16:22:31 UTC

remove this group

2017-04-04 16:22:34 UTC

he was a secret service guy working in Germany

2017-04-04 16:22:36 UTC

enable this group

2017-04-04 16:22:41 UTC

pit them against each other

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etc

2017-04-04 16:23:03 UTC

Yes, secret services were basically a very important and confidential office jobs

2017-04-04 16:23:08 UTC

pages and pages of reports

2017-04-04 16:23:12 UTC

about the most mundande details

2017-04-04 16:23:20 UTC

No doubt, but to be on top of that, you can't simply be a low level details guy

2017-04-04 16:23:21 UTC

at 12:00 he had lunch there

2017-04-04 16:23:27 UTC

his wife went to grocery store

2017-04-04 16:23:29 UTC

his wife returned

2017-04-04 16:23:31 UTC

He wasn't the spy on the street

2017-04-04 16:23:33 UTC

reported out of duty

2017-04-04 16:24:10 UTC

Russia is a very curious nation even to other Slavic people

2017-04-04 16:24:16 UTC

What is the opinion of Mountain Niggers about Putin

2017-04-04 16:24:17 UTC

in general

2017-04-04 16:24:19 UTC

In a sense that they can be bot brilliant

2017-04-04 16:24:24 UTC

For example in sciences, arts

2017-04-04 16:24:35 UTC

And completely dark, moody and shady in a fatalistic way

2017-04-04 16:24:46 UTC

Which deprives them of potential

2017-04-04 16:24:48 UTC

no contradiction there

2017-04-04 16:24:52 UTC

that sounds Swedish even

2017-04-04 16:25:30 UTC

so what's the general Montenegran opinion

2017-04-04 16:25:32 UTC

of Putin

2017-04-04 16:25:48 UTC

will the man on the street curse his name, or laud him, or be iffy

2017-04-04 16:25:57 UTC

Russians are as sophisticated as a dirty needle

2017-04-04 16:26:11 UTC

People like Putin here

2017-04-04 16:26:14 UTC

in general

2017-04-04 16:26:35 UTC

We have similarities with Russians, in being hardcore for example

2017-04-04 16:26:46 UTC

But we are much more direct, straightforward and more cordial then they are

2017-04-04 16:27:34 UTC

We consdier them to be our match in terms of being hardcore, but being much darker and brutal in their temperament

2017-04-04 16:27:53 UTC

Brutal not in sense of violence

2017-04-04 16:27:59 UTC

But approach

2017-04-04 16:28:08 UTC

you should listen to this list of dungeon synth Nester put together, it may be of value in the creation of your own music

2017-04-04 16:28:21 UTC

link it

2017-04-04 16:29:38 UTC

Russians are definitelly way way better then us in sciences, arts, literature

2017-04-04 16:30:19 UTC

But for some reason, they just come of as odd to other people, while we in general fit very well in all environments

2017-04-04 16:31:01 UTC

did you guys get conquered by Ottomans

2017-04-04 16:31:16 UTC

I'm pretty bad on my caucases history

2017-04-04 16:31:20 UTC

Briefly, for a couple of decades

2017-04-04 16:31:30 UTC

near the end? or closer to the middle?

2017-04-04 16:31:54 UTC

as far as curent territory is considered, msot of it was independent

2017-04-04 16:31:56 UTC

i mean

2017-04-04 16:31:58 UTC

conquered

2017-04-04 16:32:13 UTC

but Montenegro as a state was free from Ottomans from beginning of 17th century

2017-04-04 16:33:45 UTC

Turkey is heading in the direction of increasing religiousity

2017-04-04 16:33:51 UTC

as I suspect, is the rest of the world

2017-04-04 16:33:59 UTC

we've crossed the peak of max godlessness

2017-04-04 16:34:31 UTC

we're probably living at the close of an era that explicitly begins with the western renaissance or enlightenment

2017-04-04 16:34:41 UTC

but has earlier origins

2017-04-04 16:35:16 UTC

I'm a bit disappointed I won't live to see it happen in real time

2017-04-04 16:36:17 UTC

this small territory, ins squares, was what was free from Ottomans, with couple of other neighbouring clans

2017-04-04 16:36:55 UTC

it was formally an orthodox theocracy, but in reality, an assembly of independent clans, with priest-bishop as a ceremonial, spiritual and moral leader

2017-04-04 16:37:52 UTC

Lenin was right

2017-04-04 16:37:57 UTC

I mean Marx

2017-04-04 16:38:01 UTC

history repeats itself

2017-04-04 16:38:05 UTC

first time it's tragedy

2017-04-04 16:38:08 UTC

second time a farce

2017-04-04 16:38:14 UTC

this new "religious" "revival"

2017-04-04 16:38:22 UTC

is another farce of the subhumanity and it's global hegemons

2017-04-04 16:38:56 UTC

Reality is, this dreg of humankind, this unwashed mass of unsatiable flesh, unruly, unethical, immoral

2017-04-04 16:39:19 UTC

Just needs another center of gravity, not because it consciouslly feels it's imperative

2017-04-04 16:39:29 UTC

but because it is subconsciouslly aware it benefits them

2017-04-04 16:40:42 UTC

Furthermore

2017-04-04 16:41:00 UTC

People who are by all standards a burden to God, the World and the people

2017-04-04 16:41:09 UTC

And are long due to be wiped out from the face of history

2017-04-04 16:41:17 UTC

From all walks of life

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Will get to pass under this umbrella of "new order"

2017-04-04 16:41:40 UTC

And continue to multiply and sow misfortune everywhere they go

2017-04-04 16:41:53 UTC

By simply conforming and submiting

2017-04-04 16:42:04 UTC

That is the real danger of new "proselytism"

2017-04-04 16:43:03 UTC

It isn't proselytism, it's organic, bottom up

2017-04-04 16:43:08 UTC

the current state is a blip in history

2017-04-04 16:43:14 UTC

Man always returns to God one way or another

2017-04-04 16:43:26 UTC

Religion is as basic an aspect of the human condition as language

2017-04-04 16:43:36 UTC

only people deluded by our current times could think otherwise

2017-04-04 16:43:47 UTC

it's not about ethics or morals, or anything like that

2017-04-04 16:43:49 UTC

Conservative drivel !

2017-04-04 16:43:54 UTC

Men always return to order

2017-04-04 16:43:57 UTC

It's not even conservative or liberal

2017-04-04 16:44:00 UTC

Which is forced upon them

2017-04-04 16:44:10 UTC

They get God served to them

2017-04-04 16:44:23 UTC

By people who understand what God is

2017-04-04 16:44:27 UTC

It's just the natural state of man, easy to see in every single society that has ever lived

2017-04-04 16:44:33 UTC

no, not like that

2017-04-04 16:44:35 UTC

bottom up I said

2017-04-04 16:44:41 UTC

Who are cynically perfectly aware that an average man is incapable of such understanding

2017-04-04 16:44:52 UTC

The simple understanding of God is the true one

2017-04-04 16:44:56 UTC

the faith of the ordinary person

2017-04-04 16:45:08 UTC

beyond that there are things to understand for those who can

2017-04-04 16:45:17 UTC

but the ultimate truth is the simple one, the God of a child

2017-04-04 16:45:18 UTC

The faith of the ordinary person is a cruel joke

2017-04-04 16:45:23 UTC

A fairy tale

2017-04-04 16:45:30 UTC

For hookers and traders

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I pity those who would think like that

2017-04-04 16:45:38 UTC

because they themselves are wounded

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by the godless times they live in

2017-04-04 16:45:59 UTC

why such cynicism

2017-04-04 16:46:04 UTC

there is no reason for it

2017-04-04 16:46:14 UTC

I'm telling you the reality

2017-04-04 16:46:20 UTC

And am not simply throwing words

2017-04-04 16:46:21 UTC

we're both telling each other the reality

2017-04-04 16:46:28 UTC

I understand, I'm weighing your words

2017-04-04 16:46:35 UTC

you mean what you say

2017-04-04 16:46:37 UTC

I preciselly mean hookers and traders because I have in mind two aspects of base thinking

2017-04-04 16:46:37 UTC

you're just wrong

2017-04-04 16:46:43 UTC

yeah, those who sell it

2017-04-04 16:46:47 UTC

and those who prostitute themselves for it

2017-04-04 16:46:52 UTC

I understood your thrust

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that of a man in desperate need for safety of commercial exchange

2017-04-04 16:47:00 UTC

and that is why I responded with what I said about cynicism

2017-04-04 16:47:14 UTC

And a misfortunate who cannot help himself or resist his base urges

2017-04-04 16:47:18 UTC

@The Enlightened Shepherd is right, not understanding a faith is just a mean to pop out millions of lower-caste humans

2017-04-04 16:47:51 UTC

ridiculous social darwinist thinking, sorry

2017-04-04 16:47:57 UTC

it's a sign of the times, that's all

2017-04-04 16:48:11 UTC

Base people

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Have no faith

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Their subconsciouss

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Is always completely obscured, untamed, that even they themselves, even with all goodwill, cannot resist it's temptations

2017-04-04 16:48:43 UTC

"base" people do have faith, they may not have a higher understanding but they certainly have faith

2017-04-04 16:48:49 UTC

They can conform to 1000 religions and customs

2017-04-04 16:48:52 UTC

it isn't about resisting temptations

2017-04-04 16:48:56 UTC

sinning is guaranteed

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But not resist their destructive impulses

2017-04-04 16:49:01 UTC

it's about knowing what's right and what's wrong

2017-04-04 16:49:04 UTC

or worse, parasitic

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They can even be perfect religious role models

2017-04-04 16:49:42 UTC

you're talking about a "hypocrisy" that is really very modern thinking

2017-04-04 16:50:08 UTC

While continuing, completely unaware of it (they are not even capable to understand consequences, or actions for that matter) to drill holes in the boat of social order

2017-04-04 16:50:18 UTC

No

2017-04-04 16:50:33 UTC

the mass of people will never understand anything bigger than themselves (without some framework)

2017-04-04 16:50:35 UTC

religion or no religion

2017-04-04 16:50:43 UTC

I am talking about what people accept as an appearance and image, and hence internalize it as their purpoted real and individual ego

2017-04-04 16:50:53 UTC

THIS IS WHY CASTE IS NEEDED

2017-04-04 16:50:54 UTC

but it seems pretty obvious to me the current west is a lot unhealthier than the west of the past

2017-04-04 16:50:57 UTC

SOCIETY WITHOUT CASTE IS DEAD

2017-04-04 16:51:01 UTC

And how their subconsciousness, wild nad obscure, really commands

2017-04-04 16:51:43 UTC

Yes, current West must perish

2017-04-04 16:51:53 UTC

The process you are referring to

2017-04-04 16:51:55 UTC

Together with 80% of non-west

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occurs in each individual, good or bad, smart or not

2017-04-04 16:52:00 UTC

However

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the creation of a false ego or self

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there comes to the scene "religion"

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attributing a representation to reality

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Which will offer "solution"

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ignoring underlying reality

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And peple about to perish

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Will "embrace it"

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but this seems to be to be correlated with godlessness in its worst manifestations

2017-04-04 16:52:42 UTC

with religion, people always have a reference point

2017-04-04 16:52:42 UTC

IF THE CURRENT WEST DIES

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80% OF THE REST OF THE WORLD WILL AS WELL

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NO SUBSIDIES

2017-04-04 16:52:56 UTC

yeah, definitely

2017-04-04 16:53:06 UTC

it's not even about subsidies

2017-04-04 16:53:10 UTC

there is so much interconnection

2017-04-04 16:53:21 UTC

and the bureaucracy of "the west" is actually international

2017-04-04 16:53:40 UTC

for the common people it's really not about faith, it's that some people above them advise them to not breed like retards, you can frame it as religion or not

2017-04-04 16:53:50 UTC

Everything that is founded merely on appearances, manifestations, declarations and proclamations and RELIGION IS PAR EXCELLENCE THAT

2017-04-04 16:54:00 UTC

Is a hotbed for the undermen

2017-04-04 16:54:05 UTC

no @Salt , you are wrong

2017-04-04 16:54:16 UTC

but I understand where that kind of attitude comes from

2017-04-04 16:54:23 UTC

Everything tha allows people to "pass" by conforming to these appearances is infinitelly dangerous

2017-04-04 16:54:28 UTC

you guys should understand that surrounding you is post-peak godlessness

2017-04-04 16:54:32 UTC

note although

2017-04-04 16:54:39 UTC

I don't think you have ever seen simple faith anywhere

2017-04-04 16:54:57 UTC

that by the term religion i understand the religions of a fierceful god, heaven, hell and shariah

2017-04-04 16:55:04 UTC

islam

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why

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judaism

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christianity

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etc

2017-04-04 16:55:23 UTC

I am referring to the mythopoetic consciousness of humanity with religion

2017-04-04 16:55:34 UTC

i dont use term "religion" for African tribal totems or Wicca

2017-04-04 16:55:39 UTC

but why

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are they different phenomenon in kind?

2017-04-04 16:56:06 UTC

Because it's convenient

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or is it to conveniently denounce one

2017-04-04 16:56:09 UTC

I see

2017-04-04 16:57:24 UTC

"Religion" is just the opposite of "Nihilism"

2017-04-04 16:57:33 UTC

the world is alive, and meaningful down to its smallest parts

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personally meaningful

2017-04-04 16:58:10 UTC

the common people understand "religion" as the world of people, not the world itself

2017-04-04 16:58:13 UTC

"personal" is a circle-jerk

2017-04-04 16:58:13 UTC

it's the opposite of the sort of "realist" cynicism that is typical of modern people

2017-04-04 16:58:36 UTC

Religious world is completely dead

2017-04-04 16:58:40 UTC

or more preciselly numb

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It can't die though, that's my point

2017-04-04 16:58:58 UTC

watch it come back

2017-04-04 16:59:14 UTC

and that's good, that it will come back

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