in the hearts and minds of men

honestly, we should consider ethics in economics

any -ism is an ideology, I dont know what strictly means

yes of course we should

i meant that it doesn't stray into reality

it attempts to describe reality

within a consistent framework

as it's a metaphysical issue, it's not something you can simply prove wrong

you think that's why it's popular among young adults?

being a formulative ideology attempting to describe reality?

no, that comes from the revolutionary element

but that aspect does explain why it's a powerful motivator

at least until it actually starts to be realized

I tend to think that "capital concentration" is the most important facet of capitalism in that doing so allows for industry. Marxists failed to resolve the concentration " problem"

marxism = calculative-abstract science

anti-capitalism = it can be something more

anti-capitalism can be anti-egalitarian

marxism cant

http://www.amerika.org/politics/antifa-attacks-peaceful-alt-right-protest-new-york-times-trots-out-n-word/

does Readers mean people who actually read Amerika

Daddy pozsack is on the case

not that this is a bad thing

I'm just curious

if someone started an anti-antifa coalition I would join

welcome to the alt right

no

welcome member of our beautiful organization

alt righters are faggots

What do you mean readers

antifa and anti-antifa is nothing but hooliganism

Every sane moral person is part of the anti-antifa coalition by default.

come on @Ꜻnnihilation , fight and be part of us in modern time

They deserve nothing but scorn and pain.

I would like to harass and attack antifa people

^

at least once

in my life

That's good enough for me

Are you in Minneapolis

@The Enlightened Shepherd All surrounding ANTIFA is hooliganism.

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The protest industry in general is hooliganism too.

Antifa should not be fought, yet

Unwashed ignoramuses protesting to protest in the name of righteous whatever accomplishing nothing but mess, trash and crime.

why is that

@fallot I just don't want them shutting down any more shows

oh sorry

I was thinking of the wider situation

if they come to cause shit at metal shows

mow them down

no I just think they're scum and want them out of my shit

honestly, the only answer there in the short term is to start killing them

when they attack

beating them up wont work

because they still succeed

killing them will mean they still succeed, but the cost may be unbearable

it puts people at risk though, unfortunately

I don't think they're spinelesa

I think they're morons

me neither

I don't think upping the ante makes much of a difference

they'll become even more indignant

yeah but indignant or not

you think twice if death may result

carry weaponry and kill in self defence

I'd imagine they would gain more of a following

yeah, in the wider context, but if you kept it specific to metal shows

"SEE WHAT THOSE NAZIS DID!?!?"

and it was them attacking rather them being sought out

you would get away with it

hm

yeah, that's why it won't work in the wider world, but in that narrow context it can work

oh, and you can't actually be a Nazi band

yeah I see what you're saying

but like Disma, sure

not a problem though since they don't actually seem to target nazis

like death in june disma and marduk

shows need to 1) not succumb to pressure 2) not trust authorities 3) cooperate with authorities as far as is required to keep oneself out of trouble

because the sympathies are with the antifa

governments, police etc.

which is fucking insane

sure, but we can't just sit on that

it's not really insane, it's quite expected

how anyone can see those people as anything other than soulless rabble-rousers is truly beyond me

well, it leads from an insanity

it's not primarily insane

they aren't just out to cause trouble though

there is an ideal behind it

even if the enemy is imaginary

in fact the imaginary enemy is a requirement of leftism

just people screaming "FASCIST" at usually peaceful people and breaking shit

real enemies, you don't get to define them completely

reality interferes

they don't even seek out actual "dangerous" far right people because that calls for work and sacrifice

imaginary enemies, you can do whatever the fuck you want when you control the narratives

yeah exactly

Wait. What about demons, is that not an equivalent imaginary enemy?

no, those are real

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