SUCCESSFULLY

Chinese forces were driven out of Mongolia by a ragtag force of bolshevik paramilitaries and other scum

That's how formidable conquerors they are

KEEP IN MIND CHINA WAS COLLAPSING AT THAT POINT

CONTRAST THIS TO KOREAN WAR AND VIETNAM EXPERIENCE

no it wasnt it was the other way round

Russia was collapsing at that point

China was an Empire

20k Bolsheviks took control of Mongolia from both Japanese and Chinese

in fact, Chinese could not drive out Baron Ungern and his 5000 men

Korean War, another good proof of Chinese strategic obscurity compared to Russia

Chinese aer only good at bullying Philipinos, *badly*

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised the axis gets completely turned around, so that USA aligns itself to China, realizing that selling platic junk is world's N1 priority

I THINK CONSUMERISM IS OVER

THE BUBBLE HAS POPPED

Chinese have been for 15 years babysitted, nurtured, cuddled and cherished by West

because $$$

This alone is what they have to thank for even being ablo to think about being able to challenge anyone

THEIR MANUFACTURING WAS GREAT

BUT IT WAS A BUBBLE TOO

NOT SO

THEY WERE FORMIDABLE IN KOREA AND VIETNAM

THEY ARE A MAJOR FORCE

Their manufacturing was a communist criminal conspiracy

THEIR PROBLEM IS AS ALWAYS LEADERSHIP

I DO NOT DISAGREE

BUT

IT WAS EFFECTIVE

They were entirely made by Western greed

UNTIL WAGES ROSE

MAYBE VIEW THAT AS AN ECONOMIST

MORE EFFICIENT = MORE PROFIT

Russia was a major force in Korea and Vietnam

ON THE EARLY PART OF THE CURVE

Russian MiG's were what even made their stand possible

Chines just supplied meat

North Korea would be completely wiped out by UN bombers

http://infoproc.blogspot.de/2017/04/cngb-china-national-gene-bank.html

AGREED RUSSIA WAS ALSO MAJOR FORCE

BUT

every single plane that flown there was Russian

MOST WEAPONS CAME FROM CHINA

AND

most rifles maybe

CHINESE RED ARMY IN KOREA WAS DETERMINATIVE

NO

ALSO MAJOR WEAPON OF VIETNAM WAR

everything that *mattered* to turn the tide and keep korea going was russian

aircraft and air defense

AIR DEFENSE

IN VIETNAM

HOWEVER, REMEMBER THE CONFLICT BETWEEN US AND CHINESE FORCES IN KOREA

America suicided in Vietnam otherwise it could've won by land invasion

ALSO ADVISERS

I AGREE THERE

BUT

THEY WERE FACING A REAL CONTENDER

THE CHINESE WOULD BE BRUTAL IN A LAND WAR

THEY WILL FAIL ON THE SEA

WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT RUSSIAN SUBMARINES ALSO

THAT IS ALWAYS FUN

Russian submarine arsenal, and everything else on the sea was scaled down

So that they can maintain patrols, yet be economical and practical

Submarines are boring nowadays, the most interesting thing recently made is german diesel-electric Type 212

its one of the first having completely AIP possibility, theoretically being the most quiet submarine in the world and virtually undetectable

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/type-212.htm

PRETTY COOL BUT OLDER

RUSSIAN SUBS WERE LOUD BUT FORMIDABLE

WONDER HOW MANY OF THOSE DESIGNS ARE IN CHINA TODAY?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8QKbeS-flM

"we even have a dishwasher on boaard - and that is anti-magnetic too"

germans ...

this one is limited obviously by it's modest range

The Type 212's hybrid diesel-electric and air-independent fuel-cell propulsion system meets a vital requirement for low detectability. The efficiency of these fuel cells is very high compared to the diesel generator. It is approximately 65%. This means that 65% of applied energy, which is in the hydrogen, can be converted into electricity. The losses, E.g. due to friction/heat amount to only 35%.

otherwise it could theoretically terrorize international waters with it's undetectability

THESE LOOK LIKE FUN

I WONDER HOW MUCH DESIGNS HAVE IMPROVED SINCE 1988

USUALLY

THE STUFF WE READ ABOUT

IS TWENTY YEARS BEHIND WHAT IS BEING DEPLOYED

Germans have sold these submarines, probably technology too, to Israel

because of the Shoah guilt

idiots

THE BEST THING FOR ISRAEL

IS ISOLATION

LET THEM CLEAR OUT THE PALESTINIANS

AND START TO WORK ON THEMSELVES

INDEPENDENT FROM THE WEST

SELLING THEM ARMS SEEMS TO MISS THE BIG POINT

WE NEED TO TAKE OUT THE ARAB STATES

AND REPATRIATE THOSE PEOPLE TO NORTH AFRICA

It's a curious thing really

Jews aren't my problem because Jews don't live here

But by taking over the most powerful state in the world they aer everyone's problem

Which isn't to surprise anyone since they are the most hateful and most intolerant people in the world

Solution: Remove

dunno about the north africa plan

historically north africans were fairly similar to europeans

Solution isnt isolate israel, solution is isolate jews

maybe the north africans should be repatriated to arabia