@Zerek44 Were you a part of Centipede Central?

If so, you were invited to this server.

@Blood it is reality. Look at history. Don't repeat the same mistakes

Because CC got shut down.

like one day 8 months ago

@Blood **NOW**

why

@Extra Crispy no small buiss, get taxed in venezuela

CC is ded.

why

Because it just is.

Decentralized management leads to in-state conflicts and separatism.
Okay, this chat is being derailed.

😂 😂 😂

you guys are ghiiah

>implying people in Venezuela have the money to start a small business

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speak english you retarded pseudo intellectual @Blood

also, in reality we see the u.s sabotage and really make shure they socialist movements dont work, hence venezuela

This is why they've tried to place fascism upon the right of the political spectrum, and why they've tried to say that the Nazis weren't socialist, because if everyone knew the truth, nobody would want socialsim

>implying a small business in Venezuela wouldn't go under due to excessive government regulation

what do you mean when you say 'no small buiss'

you're making retarded claims that you're not even willing to provide the sources for

sorry, guys, I'm just unloading in the chat here

just becuase marco shat a poem out of his ass doesn't mean the US gov't is funding revolutions in venezuela

It doesn't matter whether or not small businesses don't get taxed in Venezuela

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 you really think germany had no capitalism? and was socialist?

It had capitalism in name only

What matters is that people don't have the money due to the socialist economic system to start a small business

@Blood Give me your stuff and work so i can go to school for free, or la policia will come to your door at night and take you away.

Also, the excessive government regulation means that money you save on not getting taxed still goes to the government(by paying for other fees and the like).

the best eras in human history for capitalism were the 17-1900's

I still believe that democracy is life and communism is death.

FB is prompting me to follow Cuckerberg - what for - 2020 propaganda amirite?

@Extra Crispy The 1950's in America were the golden era if capitalism.

I agree for the most part

@Extra Crispy 1900's? when corporations abusing workers gave birth to socialist movements in the u.s and started gaining traction, and forced FDR to make the "new deal"

@฿ⱤɆӾł₮ɆɆⱤ fb is cancer.

@Blood The means of production was technically privately-owned, but this was only by a superficial level, as the state had every say in how it was run and bore the substantive powers of ownership regardless. This being the introduction of price and wage controls in 1936 as a response to the inflation caused by all the governemnt spending necessary for all its programs and subsidies. And *furthermore*, the government took outright control over what was produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was distrubuted. This constitutes the de-facto socialization of the economic system. The government was still excersising the powers of ownership. And the alleged position of a private owner basically became that of a government pensioner.

why discuss politics in an echochamber. even when someone who agrees with you 91 percent of the time says something you disagree on you waste a ton of fucking time here instead of doing something usefull like stockpiling for the race war

don't you like the 'new deal?' its socialist just like you

^^^^^

@Blood it's what you call de-facto socialism

>implying there will be a race war

@futurestorms Yup it is. But unfortuately I have to use it for - work things. <:PepeSpecial:356316713429499905>

if it were not for the new deal, you would be workin 12 hours a day under shit conditions, like a slave

socialism has gone through a real fucky roller coaster when it comes to definitions throughout history

@king I think someone( @Zerek44 ) needs a cucking

it used to referr to terms such as taxes and crap, then it expanded to include marxism, etc

why

@฿ⱤɆӾł₮ɆɆⱤ My lady uses it for her business. It's a free website, basically.

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im implying that it will most likely be a race genocide probably

^this is why

The New Deal didn't change working conditions for workers.

See, I just explained how the Nazis not being socialist because of 'state-run capitalism' is a myth because the government *still* fucking had control over everything

its almost inevitable that there will be a conflict surrounding race in the upcoming 5-15 years

it gave protections for workers

increased wages

if its not started by the economy, it will be started by the gov't starting shitty plans

And slowed the rebuilding of the American economy post-Depression.

The progressives in the Republican party - who ironically would be more conservative than the current 'progressives' - were the ones who drew those boundaries

ight peace guys

increasing variables like the minimum wage will not solve any problem, but will instead likely just inflate the currency even more if it's fiat

Oh, man. So edgy in here right now, i could shave with it.

@Fusion o gee, well i guess the alternative would be people working 12 hours aday and paid 25 cents an hour today

sweet

have a nice cold beer and keep it up, your changing lives out there!

meanwhile the corporations get rich

sweet

The irony being that 25 cents an hour would be worth about $25 an hour today

@Fusion yea i said today

lol

i mean 25 cents rn

It wouldn't be a bad thing because the dollar wouldn't have become massively devalued.

fiat currency is only as valuable as the value that people give it. Very very few corporations out of the total corporations are truly enjoying the 'get rich scheme' of the current economy

The dollar would in fact have stiill been worth so much more than it is today

should a wage increase be mandated, it would only just raise the cost of labor, and as such the resulting product will cost more

thats what they would pay you, infact we see what corporatiions do when not watched by gov, look at chine apple factories, they literally put suicide nets so that the workers dont kill themselves coz of shitty working conditions

@Extra Crispy

the USD as it is worth today is only worth 5 cents of what it was worth in 1905

Yeah, that's what they would pay us because the dollar would be worth that

It wouldn't have been, b/c inflation is a direct result of economic growth

corporations are a government invention lmao

thats what they would pay you, infact we see what corporatiions do when not watched by gov, look at chine apple factories, they literally put suicide nets so that the workers dont kill themselves coz of shitty working conditions ,@Extra Crispy thats what it would be here if not for the new deal

what makes you think the government would do their job better

The currency is devalued tremendously compared to what it used to be.

FDR was the one who started the inflation of the currency by forcibly confiscating private gold

if not for socialist movements that forced the new deal

Hey, your currency didn't competely lose value 3 times in the 20th century.

then Richard Nixon made the biggest mistake of all time and took us off the gold standard.

@Fusion he did it on purpose

True, and our currency isn't so devalued that an American could be a millionaire there(like Zimbabwe)

Preach it @Fusion

Yeah, he did it on purpose to fuck the value of the dollar up.

deflation would be the direct result of economic growth

This is getting conspiracey.

Even at the absolute worst period of the Great Depression, where the economy was at its worst, the dollar was worth more then than it is now.

good to see no one could retort this statement "infact we see what corporatiions do when not watched by gov, look at chine apple factories, they literally put suicide nets so that the workers dont kill themselves coz of shitty working conditions ,@Extra Crispy thats what it would be here if not for the new deal

for example, if you based the economy of a whole society off a brick of gold, and printed more and more cash that represented that gold, those bills would only represent an increasingly smaller amount of that gold as it increases in value

@Extra Crispy read on it, deflation means stagnation