Japan has a very low level of crime

very low level of social upheaval

granted they have some issues, but this is mostly caused by hypercapitalism

China is actively committing demographic replacement against the Tibetans

do you want to commit ugenics on the lower social strata of the white ethnostate?

most of the social problems and anti traditional attitudes are not there

Yeah china is horrible

no, eugenics would apply to all

in NS classes collaborate

our economic system actually would make class by money an irrelevant concept

So you'd execute low iq whites too?

lol

who said anything about execution

the rate of deflation would make the moneyed elite idea not make any sense

He said eugenics

eugenics does not mean executing everyone underneath a certain iq

eugenics is preventing genetic diseases from spreading

dummy

@Somedudewithaname No, we would implement programs to incentivize higher IQ whites to breed with other high IQ whits, and lower IQ ones to breed less or not at all.

Wow you guys are kind of sad

basically the bottom line of eugenics is, if you have two kids and they're both retards, you're banned from having another

I don't think forcing people to breed with someone is cohesive

Damn I'm just kind of depressed now.

would cause issues

that's like, the bare minimum

If you are not eugenic you are dysgenic

you're not offering any counter arguments

why should we *not* practice eugenics?

natural eugenic effect is gone

I don't know what to say.

because youre wrong

What's your base presuposttion?

We have different base presuppositions and values

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] you're operating on the assumption that he knows what eugenics are

he doesn't

I can't argue with what you believe

he thinks eugenics means shooting dumb people

IF you value race more than indivudal well being then fine

That the collective racial identity is more important than individual identity, however we do not eradicate all individualism only that which harms the overall collective.

that if there is not eugenics there is dysgenics

I can't change your mind

I just want to understand why

and natural eugenics is gone

Why does collective racial idenity matter to you?

Because as I said, it's better for everyone. It fosters class collaboration, a eugenic upwards mobile society, a homogeneous society which helps each other, and strong families and communities.

It is simply better for the citizenry

in every way

Why is it impossible to have a heterogenous society that helps each other?

Because different races have different characteristics that make them less compatible with each other

because different races have different cultural, and genetic predispositions which cause them to conflict with one another

You know most leftitsts support class colbaration without the etno state parts?

have you heard of bowling alone

not to mention differences in intelligence

differences in how they view religion

spirituality

etc

What's your evidence for these differences in genetics accounting for that much?

Flynn effect?

observable reality

you know what FST is right

youre a biologist

refer to alt hype's stuff, there's all kinds of studies on how race and culture are retroactively linked

Or studies that show immigrant kids tends to do as well as the race of teir parents

there's inverse assimilation rates generationally with immigrants

so the next generation of them is less likely to assimilate than the first comers

Yeah biological differences exist but idfferences within populations aren't that distinct

they are actually

the difference is a few codons

that sam harris talking point is dumb

and not true

Vril.....

You know what FST is right

youre a biologist

ultimately we don't need a reason to have ingroup preference
it is an evolutionary reality, and human nature
it is not wrong to abide by natural law, and I believe that it produces effective society
@Somedudewithaname

its widely accepted that the human FST value is 1.5

You do realize it's impossible to dissociate societal infulences from biology in stuides right?

dna variation between races is sufficient btw in terms of the established taxonomy with other animals to label us separate sub species

NIGGER

FST IS PURE GENETICS

What makes you think these racial differences contribute to intelligence to any significant degree?

And also.

@Somedudewithaname environmental effects don't account for much

this likely wont matter in coming years with bio enhancements

that technology will not be made available to the public

your ethnostate is gonna be outcompeted by asian colations.

unless you can change the 0.155 FST value it doesnt matter

It will eventually

actually there was a scientist in eastern Europe recently who found the specific genotypes for intelligence

one sec will post

Enviormental factors do acoount

explain the flynn effect then

if you think anyone but the international elite will be transhuman, you are deluding yourself

do you think humans evolved 50 years?

you will be left to die in a failed state by then

because theres more distance genetically between human races than there is inbetween domestic dogs

@Somedudewithaname racial solidarity is not based entirely on intelligence alone

Especially without any strong seletive pressure?

it's similar to the concept of familial solidarity

dogs are literally less distant from eachother genetically than human ethnic groups

you can have a dumbass brother, but you will still love him no matter what