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2018-09-17 23:57:39 UTC

are you fine with this distinction?

2018-09-17 23:57:43 UTC

Yes

2018-09-17 23:57:50 UTC

okay keep going

2018-09-17 23:57:54 UTC

jsut wanted to clarify that

2018-09-17 23:58:02 UTC

He goes to a doctor

2018-09-17 23:58:08 UTC

Or to a health practitioner

2018-09-17 23:58:26 UTC

Or to a group that is meant to help females in society

2018-09-17 23:58:35 UTC

Okay//

2018-09-17 23:59:23 UTC

Medically-speaking, he will have to "pause" that mindset of being a female socially-speaking, and re-acknowledge he is a male biologically

2018-09-17 23:59:32 UTC

No matter what surgeries he has done to his body and ect

2018-09-17 23:59:39 UTC

That's like a bullet in the head

2018-09-17 23:59:51 UTC

Fair enough

2018-09-17 23:59:57 UTC

I know a lot of trans people feel that ay

2018-09-17 23:59:59 UTC

way.

2018-09-18 00:00:07 UTC

Because it's literally living his life thinking one way, and then having to enter into that stage of realization every single time he goes to a doctor

2018-09-18 00:00:11 UTC

be it for a check-up

2018-09-18 00:00:16 UTC

or a surgery

2018-09-18 00:00:18 UTC

Or anything

2018-09-18 00:00:20 UTC

Now

2018-09-18 00:00:23 UTC

For the female groups

2018-09-18 00:00:31 UTC

Sports, leadership, social gatherings ect

2018-09-18 00:00:40 UTC

Many of the girls will not accept him

2018-09-18 00:00:47 UTC

Many of these woman will dislike him

2018-09-18 00:00:48 UTC

Why?

2018-09-18 00:00:59 UTC

because these females had to live in a certain way

2018-09-18 00:01:10 UTC

And all Phil had to do was go through surgeries and ect

2018-09-18 00:01:15 UTC

hmmmm

2018-09-18 00:01:18 UTC

So it's like a spit on the face for them

2018-09-18 00:01:22 UTC

Can i take issue with that?

2018-09-18 00:01:25 UTC

Go ahead

2018-09-18 00:01:39 UTC

Of course there are trans exclusioinary radical feminists out there

2018-09-18 00:01:49 UTC

but many feminists also support trans issue

2018-09-18 00:02:07 UTC

which now we've moved on from the biological issue into the domain of sociology

2018-09-18 00:02:13 UTC

I

2018-09-18 00:02:18 UTC

*I'd disagree

2018-09-18 00:02:29 UTC

His experience will not be universal and wll vary.

2018-09-18 00:02:30 UTC

they are connected

2018-09-18 00:02:38 UTC

From the deep south to new york city

2018-09-18 00:02:41 UTC

ofc they are

2018-09-18 00:02:46 UTC

physiology and psychology are connected

2018-09-18 00:02:47 UTC

but it doesnt mean we can help with both

2018-09-18 00:02:57 UTC

.Yeah not disagreeing there

2018-09-18 00:03:07 UTC

which one matters more is a different question though

2018-09-18 00:03:13 UTC

But there is a substantial difference between male and female

2018-09-18 00:03:19 UTC

That can not be ignored

2018-09-18 00:03:42 UTC

They've done studies where they have males and females think of a positive and a negative impact in their life for 5 minutes

2018-09-18 00:04:01 UTC

And then they have them look at a hill and guess how steep the hill was

2018-09-18 00:04:05 UTC

@Somedudewithaname Alright you said you wanted to debate

2018-09-18 00:04:12 UTC

is this one done?

2018-09-18 00:04:14 UTC

I do vril

2018-09-18 00:04:16 UTC

nope

2018-09-18 00:04:18 UTC

wait your turn

2018-09-18 00:04:27 UTC

alright then call me when you're done

2018-09-18 00:04:28 UTC

Females with a positive impact saw the hill as shorter and likewise, those with a negative saw it steeper

2018-09-18 00:04:30 UTC

Okay ican agree with you their is a substantial difference

2018-09-18 00:04:33 UTC

>inb4 "insolent"

2018-09-18 00:04:35 UTC

But there was something off with the males

2018-09-18 00:04:35 UTC

aww he didn't say it

2018-09-18 00:04:42 UTC

Really really off

2018-09-18 00:04:46 UTC

There was almost no difference

2018-09-18 00:04:49 UTC

do elaborate

2018-09-18 00:04:52 UTC

lol we're weird.

2018-09-18 00:04:53 UTC

Between the positive and the negative

2018-09-18 00:04:57 UTC

Okay

2018-09-18 00:05:00 UTC

now why?

2018-09-18 00:05:20 UTC

Because males and females are different psychologically and therefore will take different moments in their lives differently

2018-09-18 00:05:30 UTC

It's really hard from an experimental standpoint to isolate mental processes from biology and sociological phenomenom.

2018-09-18 00:05:43 UTC

Why do men think different in the way do?

2018-09-18 00:05:53 UTC

If males are psychologically-speaking "tougher" to keep the same mental stance during both positive and negative impacts

2018-09-18 00:05:54 UTC

Why are some men terrible at math while women are better?

2018-09-18 00:05:57 UTC

But females aren't

2018-09-18 00:06:13 UTC

isn't it insulting to have a male become "female" and attempt to join this group?

2018-09-18 00:06:17 UTC

Prehaps it's because females are taught to be more in touch withtheir emotions

2018-09-18 00:06:28 UTC

and I don't see a lack of emotion as a positive or even rational thing

2018-09-18 00:06:43 UTC

The study was done with people age 16-60

2018-09-18 00:06:52 UTC

Even Gen Z children

2018-09-18 00:06:57 UTC

think the same way

2018-09-18 00:06:59 UTC

They went through their formative years though

2018-09-18 00:07:00 UTC

But for the past 10 years

2018-09-18 00:07:07 UTC

but continue

2018-09-18 00:07:07 UTC

Our society has been heavily changing

2018-09-18 00:07:24 UTC

oof thats an understatement

2018-09-18 00:07:31 UTC

I'd disagree

2018-09-18 00:07:40 UTC

I live with 4 generations of my family

2018-09-18 00:07:45 UTC

Jesus

2018-09-18 00:07:56 UTC

And I know they don't represent the whole world

2018-09-18 00:08:04 UTC

But they've lived in many of the largest cities in the US

2018-09-18 00:08:08 UTC

New York, Miami, ect

2018-09-18 00:08:26 UTC

And they can attest to the fact that everything has changed EXCEPTIONALLY

2018-09-18 00:08:41 UTC

Yaeah I agree lol

2018-09-18 00:08:49 UTC

things have changed dramitically

2018-09-18 00:08:58 UTC

But even they dislike the idea of men and women changing their genders and acting as if they are part of that biological group

2018-09-18 00:09:06 UTC

When women support women

2018-09-18 00:09:41 UTC

It's because they physically and psychologically understand each other through literal biological changes they can all relate to, and common experiences

2018-09-18 00:09:48 UTC

It's the same thing for men

2018-09-18 00:09:59 UTC

if you want to go ahead and change the way you work in life

2018-09-18 00:10:03 UTC

Example

2018-09-18 00:10:07 UTC

Okay wat....

2018-09-18 00:10:15 UTC

Being a male, but liking to do more "feminine" things

2018-09-18 00:10:19 UTC

That's fine

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