at least we're due for a miny golden age

Lmao. Well, communism is where they have command over production. Basically the government choices where the products go and what services are needed.

FBI didnt find shit on kavanaugh

might live through that in this lifetime

I think this is wrong?

but in real communism there is not goverment

@S u z u no that's not Communism

Communism there is no state

means of production are held in common

Oh sorry.

Well... now HOW means of production should be created under communism

if it's not Goverment, Or capitalist to invest in new means of production?

But how they CREATE IT

@lagillas if pebble were still in this server he could probably answer you

My head hurts.

@agag he got banned?

I don't know if there are any Commies in this server anymore

pebble got banned yes

and other question, Why is it so hard to changue our ideology position?

every person

in North Korea there is no goverment?

Changing your position is as hard as you and your environment make it.

no North Korea is not a Communist society, the idea in Marxism is that history will progress towards Communism with Socialism as an intermediate stage

This chat moves faster than days on Jupiter.

North Korea is an authoritarian

@Fsypro so you think that capitalism and communism is just the same?

I can't believe concentration camps are still in North Korea.

On the road to a communist society

prices can only go down so far though

I have a question for the Alt-Righters if you really think that capitalism is not as bad as the media tell us, WHY when you choose a republican president the USA economic freedom just drops?

I mean go down...

are you ESL

capitalism is garbage

Yes, if you look the economic freedom with republican presidents it just go DOWN

how has economic freedom dropped under Trump

@lagillas both parties are shit

liberalism is shit

fuck democracy

The rules don't allow alt right in this server anyway.

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USA is now 20th in the economic freedom list. IT WAS 5th

is not as relevant as it used to be

you can see it in a lot of sources not just 1

https://www.heritage.org/index/

democratic republics become corrupt and gradually fail?

united states went up from 18 in 2017 to 10 in 2018 according to wikipedia

imagine my shock

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom

So trump and republicans are actually against capitalism?

FACTS

@lagillas according to that website you linked US economic freedom has gone up under Trump

Powerful.

we wuz

@usa1932 You shut my mouth

THAT'S TRUE

well... so under trump, USA could become the next Singapore?

same gdp per capita

I hope not

why...

laissez-faire capitalism isn't good

we've tried it before

it didn't have good results

USA used to be so great...

capitalism is the big gay in any iteration

people in Hong Kong live in literal cages

and I'm not from USA

Railroad and oil monopolies

Spooky

^

Gilded Age wasn't a fun time

the eternal anglo monopolists

who then got rekt by jews

rockefeller was german lol

rockefeller is a piece of shit

Just think, what if for example China, have the same economic freedom as New Zeland

or was

rather

how that could be to the WORLD

HOW RELEVANT will be china

SO FKN RELEVANT... so much

I'm curious what's your first language

Spanish

but if China was just as free as Australia or Hong Kong they would be the kings of almost everything right?

the kings of the Media, Music industry, movies

etc.

JUST LIKE USA ARE right now

All of that is culturally swayed

in terms of regulation China is already freer than us in many ways

child labor laws, minimum wage laws

worker rights in general

Economic freedom won't make it sell globally

the economic freedom of China right know is even LESS than in my country Mexico, so they are actually pretty fucked up

they are relevant now cause they are A LOT OF PEOPLE

yeah that's the other thing, Chinese movie industry would have to compete with Hollywood

but if you add that economic freedom + A LOT PEOPLE that would be a FKN EXPLOSION of creativity

Possibly.

Jeez... i wish...

but USA is still the greatest in that

Hello everyone, pleasure to meet all of you.

Hi :)

welcome @DrFlame (mikels)

hello @DrFlame (mikels)

so If USA goes from 18th, to 10th in just 1 year under Trump presidency, that means that your president is doing VERY well, I would vote for him again.

but it wasn't the same with other republicans

@DrFlame (mikels) what you here to order?

Well, politics, mostly.

Or just othet peoples opinions

*other

I hope you're ready for a whole lot of theology

and history

That sounds interesting.

Theology isn't something I'm involved in a lot of discussions about.

Thats fine, guess I can maybe learn a thing or two

I wanna talk about the green party someday here.

Trump made America great again in just 1 year

he achieved the impossible for me

congratulations America

Do you actually know what candidate won the presidency of mexico this year

A socialist

is he bought out by the cartel again?

Wow, thats sad

I hope you enforce your borders

If our economic freedom drops like it could be happen in this very years, you will recieve a lot of people from here.

then once they get to USA they will vote democrats.

Who knows anymore, I thought mexico was a much better country until I found out about, well the illegal migration and problems those people caused

Mexico is not that bad, Actually our IDH is still better than most Hispanic countries

(south america)

Still....

until now, AMLO will take the presidency in 30th december 2018

He already said the exactly SAME things that Bernie sanders said, and EVEN WORSE

well, A LOT WORSE

H a

He said that Fidel castro was a good leader for Cuba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ygk2zRsdEo

prepare for the illegal inmigration

friends

:')

We shouldve learned our lesson before lost our territory

You should tell the mexicans living in USA right now that they should back to this country, now that a socialist won the presidency they could be happy here.

"the liberal mexicans who vote for Hillary

Actually, I should say that to Albainans

Not that they can buy their heroin cheaply

*now

What will even happen to Cuba, anyway?

I dont a second crysis in my hands

it'll probably liberalize

Cuba is even more free than Venezuela now

Good to know, cause my dad LOVES cuba

and the venezuelans said when chavez won "We will not be like Cuba", yeah...because they WILL BE WORSE

haha

now all the mexicans here are saying "we will not be like Venezuela..."

we will see

Wheres your Che Guevara now, Venezuela?

Pinochet was the best thing that happened to Chile

xD, they are pretty fucked up

Pinochet saved Chile

Best Hispanic country right now

Actually the population of Chile is just a few millions, and here a lot of people listen music of Chile.

ironically anti-system groups

but they come from Chile, cause they have enough liberty to achieve that.

Is just like USA, system of a Down, Eminem and a lot of that, are "Anti-Status quo" but they only exist cause the system ALLOWS THEM to exist.

Makes me wonder, what will happen to south america in the future? The second commie war?

One of my Ex’s from high school was Chilean. Her parents were super proud of their culture but grateful to Pinochet for making their country livable, but she thought he was a terrible person and that socialism would have been a viable alternative. Needless to say we did not last long lol

I mean, look at Venezuela

They are doing GOOD.
(Not really)

I mean, just see, Mexico is BAD for living, but venezuela is SO SHITTY that they prefer to come here to live. to traver all the fkn KM, to leave their country just to live here.

even when Mexico is not great enough. That means that venezuela goes fucked up

a lot of mexicans said "well we can't be worse than we are right now"....

AMLO thinks that mexico is in bankruptcy

but not really.

Comes Venezuela, with crashed economy

We need $$$

Just <:SAD:356316923085979648> and <:Gay:356316875367514122>

We just need to add in more socialism

That'll fix everything

Just print more money

Then we'll have more to spend!

socialist actually think that

socialist here.

at least bernie sanders tries to disimulate with Americans

but here, you can say that Venezuela is a GOOD example for democracy and they will clap you

At least therere no more COMMUNIST countries around

if North Korea is not communist, the URSS wasn't communist either

We need to remove a few zeros from our money

Thatll fix things

Well, shoot, I forgot about NK

Nk isnt commie

Juche gang

Al east Kimmy boy is at least doing somethig about it

Also ull love this

Cuba either, no country is communist at all, EVERY communist country NEEDS capitalist workers to maintain the bureaucracy

investigate about the merchants in venezuela, They get up at 4:00 A.M and WORK more than 15 hours per day

just to get a minimum salary

is ridicolous

Cause the economy aint moving

But neither does this

goverment just took 85%

But they were like:

Were imprvong the coutry

We will get more money in return

Ooooof

But in the actual world, they just take upon their greed, probably

It is impossible to do a "revolution" against them, there are more people who get benefits from socialism, BY DOING NOTHING, than people who works lots more than them.

Absolute Truth

idk why almost everybody in south america, enjoys more goverment.

Idk guess they think it will be better for them

@dunkly !

They didnt learn the lesson from the ussr

Why is @dunkly have a fur fag avatar

Mods!!!

Rip ukraine 1930s-1992

Rip ukraine now

Its being raped by russia

I know

This is the dumbest thing in the world

Ukraine has a lot of soviet gear where the ruskies live in the east ukraine

We need to provide ukraine with anti tank equipment

It is the best way to stop thee russians tbh

Russia is big enough, they can make 100 times than its there

Oop

Russia can't keep making tanks forever

*more

At least Chile is the Neo in the hispanic world,
maybe thanks to Pinochet.

Meant to edit not delete

We got the message, dont worry

Hopefully, since I live in Serbia, Putin wont hunt down my ass for disagreeing

Just like Stalin tried 3 times with Tito

And failed

But, that would be the worst person from the whole 20th sentury?

LMao Zedong

Oh, that guy

He just got away from everything, and he's still a great national hero for China.

Wow.

Communists sure did broke a bone on this one

Stalin:hahahaha, good one, now go to gulag

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When the goverment just get big enough to control almost all the wealth, they become pretty honest.

http://www.notable-quotes.com/z/mao_zedong_quote.jpg

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oHC1230OpOg

At least I dont live in the EU

👌

They dont want us there anyway

Were just small fish

I wouldnt mind russia being in once they develop a bit