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those are small charges tho
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does turning a 12ga slug into a landmine count as an explosive
probably
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ok
yes
not only if you blow it out of a barrel itll make a big boom
and hurt you
but if you put it in a weak metal pipe
like copper or shit like that
Yeah that's fragmentation right there
itll make a fair bunch of shrapnel
now
Can't have that
you make little squares with a hacksaw
The idea behind what I was talking about was making a steel pipe into a miniature shotgun barrel and pressure sensitive firing mechanism
So when someone stepped on it that a nail would bury itself into the primer and wind up maiming someone's foot
I have other things that I can post instead though
I think I actually own this book but I forgot where it went
Not only it will blow up
But it will just destroy the dude foot
And he'll need an amputation
But ye i actually thought of that today
I was thinking about traps
So ill probably make schematics of my ideas or some shit like that
Always wacky traps like these
Mosins are very cheap but the ammo is becoming rarer last I checked
Mostly because surplus 7.62x54R isn't manufactured (at least in mass bulk) anymore
I'm a dirty Anglo and know nothing about guns but isn't an ar15 the best option?
It depends
They come in a large variety of calibers, each one acting in different ways
Generally 5.56mm is what you'll find the most of since I'm pretty sure it's still used by the US military
It's really small and tends to fly right through people
The idea of it being to maim and not kill
Can't you get conversion kits for 308?
I think so
I'm not sure if that's the AR15 platform of the AR10
AR10 has a lot more of the higher caliber shit
You could just buy an AR in a different caliber than 5.56, because people do make them in different calibers too
There's a lot of debate over which gun is best but I think as long as you're comfortable with it you should be fine
The only reason I call it the best option is because it's widely available
Mass produced with conversions
It's definitely a very expansive platform
The only thing I'd be able to own is a shotgun in the UK
Shotguns aren't bad
Use slugs and not pellets if you can get them
I have no land so I can't really own a rifle
Yeah, I suppose you wouldn't plausibly have any varmints to be shooting at
So no license
And handguns are pretty illegal in all circumstances for civilians
Oh God yeah
I think you can get crossbows mostly okay over there
I forgot though, I rarely read about UK law
I can see myself being a gun guy
But I live in a gay country
Yeah I couldn't imagine getting a gun over there
I've seen British people do it before but man
I went to Germany once and you had to be eighteen to buy an airsoft gun
It's just as bad here
In England you're not even aloud to protect yourself from an intruder
I think the same went for Canada too
They're allowed to sue you if you injure them in a way where they can't get a job
I shit you not
I've been told by cops before that I should "shoot to kill" so that wouldn't happen to me
If I killed an intruder I'd be sent to prison forever
Where as terrorists get 3 years
And get automatic early release
lmfao
what the fuck
At least we torture our terrorists
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England isn't a real country
It's just an economic model
If you wanted a home defense weapon surely you'd want a shotgun with bird shot and a pistol with sub-sonic ammo
Not sure why you'd get sub sonics without a suppressor
Or bird shot
I guess I haven't ever shot *people* before so I wouldn't know how birdshot works exactly
I've just always imagined slugs were better
But subsonic, subsonic is something you use with a suppressor to make the operation even quieter
22LR subsonics suppressed is movie quiet
All you can hear is the slide
Without subsonics you can hear the pop
It's metal BBS traveling at 1200 fps
It's definitely gonna stop someone
It'd still work, but it's more expensive for the same result
But you don't want over penetration
Which is fair, but that's what hollowpoints are for
And I assume you'd want your gun to be closer to safe hearing levels to minimize disorientation
If you're using subsonics unsuppressed it's still going to fuck with you
Even suppressed it'll fuck with you, just less
That's kinda the point tho
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