what the fuck

At least we torture our terrorists

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England isn't a real country

It's just an economic model

If you wanted a home defense weapon surely you'd want a shotgun with bird shot and a pistol with sub-sonic ammo

Not sure why you'd get sub sonics without a suppressor

Or bird shot

I guess I haven't ever shot *people* before so I wouldn't know how birdshot works exactly

I've just always imagined slugs were better

But subsonic, subsonic is something you use with a suppressor to make the operation even quieter

22LR subsonics suppressed is movie quiet

All you can hear is the slide

Without subsonics you can hear the pop

It's metal BBS traveling at 1200 fps

It's definitely gonna stop someone

It'd still work, but it's more expensive for the same result

But you don't want over penetration

Which is fair, but that's what hollowpoints are for

And I assume you'd want your gun to be closer to safe hearing levels to minimize disorientation

If you're using subsonics unsuppressed it's still going to fuck with you

Even suppressed it'll fuck with you, just less

That's kinda the point tho

I think the highest caliber I've seen get movie quiet is 9mm

Daily reminder

I think what you need is some cheap ear protection

Just something quick like plugs or some shit

Because shooting subsonic out of an unsuppressed gun defeats the point of loading subsonics

Is it difficult to get suppressors in the US?

I have a pair like these and they work pretty well and are really fast to put on

Yeah suppressors are a bitch to get

They're available if you jump through the right hoops and wait for a year though

Expensive as hell though

I don't think there is a law against suppressors in the UK

Sounds like a con tbh

It sucks

They're good suppressors but they're very controlled

It'd be easier to use a pillow

Guns are still loud with suppressors

Yeah

Lawful gun owners aren't gonna use suppressors to kill people