I vote against it

idk i dont see an issue

i think we need to accept that gender is not in nature equal but in reason we should all have the same rights

both women and men should have the right to vote

UNLESS they pay NET tax and serve in the draft

with women dont do

and alot of men also dont

Do you want to hear my counter argument?

Or I stop here

Your call

Doesn't get more radical then this for debate

i don’t mind

up to you

https://relampagofurioso.com/2016/08/29/thanks-feminism-national-suicide-as-americas-birth-rate-hits-new-low/

Ever since the 1960s the birth rate has decline

https://divorce.lovetoknow.com/Historical_Divorce_Rate_Statistics

Also divorce rates skyrocket

In about 100-200 years we wouldn't have enough people to replace the current population

And without strong familys people are getting married less and less

Divorce rape is real

And it all happened thanks to feminism

I got more but these 3 I want a debate about them

@NobleBeing @Deleted User @TheNobody Noble here makes quite a good point, I agree with the ultimatum of it but not the process. The only jewel of why I agree however; is if you want to improve one generation, you start with the last. History is responsible for my creation, YOUR creation. All of planet earth.

Your family was bad? You'll turn out to be bad too. How are serial killers made? Ah yes, bad parenting.

In this action, his views are definitely confirmed. Feminism in a sense has destroyed the typical comfy family setting that a lot of people, children & teenagers needed. An emotional cushion which is good for mental growth and stability.

What has replaced this, hunger, this cushion? Sexual fetishes. You may laugh now, but look at it. What is a DadDom relationship? In simple terms its : a woman looking for a guy who emanates the aura of being a father figure whilst not being related at all and conveys that in the bedroom also. The reverse is true of MomDom relationship with the male wanting a mother figure and it also being conveyed in the bedroom.

Due to this, it seems the comfy pillow most refer to as **family life** has a connection to sexual experiences or pleasure if that element is lost from any family or child that is being raised.

Feminism and such other issues knowingly or not, have destroyed this emotional pillow that so many developing minds direly need in order to be healthy and contribute to society in a good way.

Well I would go farther and say the reason why women are not having babies is because they so worried about their careers and by the time they want kids the window to have kids is very little. most women have a hard time having kids at 30 and nearly impossible at 40+ without negative effects to the baby aka down syndrome.

Also look at the Muslim population they are exploding with their birth rates at 6 to 8 kids a family. It's confirmed by 2030 half of the world population will be muslim.

I'm not saying women can't work but they need to focus on getting that ring and making babies and not be a slut in their prime years otherwise the birth rates will continue to go lower. Japan has a similar problem but is way worse in 100 years they won't even have enough people to continue the country as it is now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/01/07/japans-birth-rate-problem-is-way-worse-than-anyone-imagined/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.878369631543

Your info is bad, World Birth rates are dropping through the floor

Japan has already retooled their economy to work with little labor, Average age 55!

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2011/03/02/global-muslim-population-2030/

Where's your source from?

https://www.census.gov/data-tools/demo/idb/informationGateway.php

Hmm Idk about the source all I've been seeing and hearing is birth rates are dogshit right now

I've got a lot of sources say otherwise

Well, I have a friend who has been doing this since 2002. He showed be the data vs the old predictions and all the predictions have been wrong. Birth rates across the world are decreasing, and in the last 10 years they have really fell (almost 2 children per family less in 10 years!)

Yep birth rates are dog shit right now

Here's one of the biggest changes

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/28/china-population-crisis-new-two-child-policy-fails-to-yield-major-gains.html

Well they better start importing some

Wait...

Am I the only one who thinks the anti feminist argument that women don’t deserve rights because they aren’t required to register for the draft is stupid.

America hasn’t had a draft in a generation, it is the military and conservatives that have actively tried to keep women out of combat roles in the military, and with the high level of automation and technology in today’s world men’s increased physical strength is less and less important.

And that’s ignoring the fact that the guys who typically make this argument haven’t served in the military a day in their life, they want to take credit for the deeds of braver men and use it as a reason to subjugate women to lesser status

We are in the midst of the longest war in history and no one has ever seriously even entertained the idea of a draft, and we’re likely to never have one again

It´s not only in draft, but in conscription aswell. If you take most nations that have mandatory conscription, its for men only (some countries accept volunteering females). But saying that because of that women should have less rights is absolute bullshit. And I dont think its only conservatives who try to keep women out of combat zones, its generally everybody. BUT, saying that in todays world, men´s increased physical strenght is less important, is also bullshit. 100 years ago, all that a soldier might have was a hat (or a helmet) a backpack, rifle and clothing. Today its much much more, and looking at the places where soldiers are usually deployed nowadays, they are deserts, very hot places and very anti-female.

Yeah, but today an active duty member of the air force can fly a drone anywhere in the world from Las Vegas

Weapons in ships are reloaded by machines, not requiring the physical strength to pick up the shells. We may not be as suited for grunt work on the ground but that’s less important now than ever especially when we aren’t fighting wars where we take and hold territory

@Deleted User u ignored the NET tax part

not to mention the draft is always a possiblaty

im sure the men drafted into nam didnt think it would happen till it did

voting gives you power over choosing who u go to war with if at all

why give women that power if they wont fight the war or pay for it

thats not fair

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So you’re saying women don’t pay taxes now.... then who is taking half my check? Sounds like your real problem is with the draft, here’s an idea, the vast majority of us policy makers are men, have them eliminate the draft or include women in it, oh wait, the draft isn’t really the issue, you just want to put your boot on the neck of women and keep them down

Also the United States hasn’t declared war in 77 years so voting has little to no impact on where the military is actually sent

but... them policy makers must be voted to their positions... and women vote... so uhh... vote women?

I do vote for women

```Also the United States hasn’t declared war in 77 years``` declaring doesent mean no war

*cough Korea, Nam, Iraq etc...

I could go on and on

and whats the deal with wester women always saying stuff like that? <:VoteDown:495273606360727582> <:VoteDown:495273606360727582> ``` you just want to put your boot on the neck of women and keep them down```

I know, my point stands that having a vote doesn’t play any part in where the military goes

it does

Most of those wars were unpopular and done against the wishes of the people

yet, the policy makers who endorse these wars, were voted by these people

And if people, including women had to vote for them we would vote against them

The fact remains that a women is much less likely to vote to send the country to war than a man

thats usually because women want "peace and harmony"

How evil right?

*a stereotype, yes. but a common one*

Wanting to spend our capital on making a better world, increasing our own prosperity not blowing people up

I bet women back when N-Korea went after S-korea wanted peace, but NOOOO, evil men wanted WAAAAAAR <:haHAA:414150137238126592>

```Wanting to spend our capital on making a better world, increasing our own prosperity not blowing people up``` say that to the other guy(s)

@Deleted User no i said NET tat

NET

do you know what net tax means ?

I speak no ´murican, what is dis

```Net of tax is the amount after adjusting for the effects of income tax. Net of tax is most commonly calculated by taking gross figures, like the cash collected from the sale of an asset, and subtracting the taxes paid. Net of tax could also be used to show the final amount after accounting for the tax savings, for example, on a loss that allows a tax deduction.``` thats what google tells me

so... its the money that already has taxes deducted from it?

thats usually because women want "peace and harmony" —- citation needed

ah?

China is up shit Creek.

The ladies do tend to be more pacifist than their male counter parts (however that maybe because vets are far more likely to vote for war than not civilians.)

Women value security while men value freedom it's a fact

like `muricans brought freedom to Iraq

lmao

@NobleBeing you have data for that?

I have no fucking clue what you mean about NET but I pay taxes on every check and file with the IRS every spring, are you saying their is a secret men tax that I’m not paying because I call bs on that

Net tax is the tax u pay vs the tax that is spent on y

You*

If you pay more tax than is spent on you

You are a net tax payer

Women as a whole consume way more money than they bring in

So they arent net tax payers

lmao

Ah so every red states should pay way more in taxes because conservatives are net takers

*texas babyyy*

No

women can be red aswell

You shouldnt get money in the first place

(republican red that is)

Red or blue

I hate hand outs

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander baby

What

Ah now I need to pay more taxes because o shouldn’t get money in the first place

No

<:facepalm:411854707376783370>

U shouldnt recive

Read up

tho @TheNobody define handouts

Everyone should pay the same

And recive the same

VERY LITTLE

What u want get privetly

U get what u earn

<:GWworkshopAkaShrug:398886014711496714>

Also i said women as a whole

Not u

yeah...thats not a very effective system tho...

As far as i know you are more of a tax payer than me

Im not basing voting on gender

Its just a fact more men than women pay net tax

what are the benefits women are recieving more?

<:destinyhmm:439492222153523210>

What

Nothing

Why should they recive more

```Its just a fact more men than women pay net tax```

O that

so... if men pay more net tax then....

My guess is he’s lumping benefits that go to children as benefits to women

Thats a part of it

Still going to women

The children dont own the money

The eomen do

Because women can have children without males apparently

Thats why u get shity single mothers spending money on make up insted of food

@Deleted User no you dont.

Here is an idea dont make famliy courts baised agenst men

Then complain about it

<:GWpaboaWeSmart:407618728159608832>

I agree with the last statement.

Don’t get women pregnant leave them and complain that children get state support

```Thats why u get shity single mothers spending money on make up insted of food``` But they recieve the money to help keep up the children. so... I see no way that women will have more money to spend on makeup

Dont get pregnant and kick the man out

@Deleted User we aint no black in here

Dont have kids if u r too poor to aford it

Birth controll is so cheap

<:VoteUp:495272934353666049>

I see all the times these really big families where moms have like 7-8 children, they are poor, living in poor conditions and then are complaining

BRUH

A PACK OF CONDOMS COSTS ABOUT MAX 5 EUR

Birth control isn’t cheap, it has horrible effects on our bodies, and you can get condoms anywhere for cheap but it doesn’t feel as nice so don’t use them

it doesent feel as nice to have kids, live in poor conditions and complaining about it aswell

so, dont have sex kids

sex is bad

u get small guys

⚠

```it has horrible effects on our bodies``` not every method has

Keep your pussy dry

Dont get horny n fuck every guy

<:GWaobaWink:396058278108594177>

<:drakeyea:414149510453919754>

U dont have 2 have sex

Ur chocie

ur coochie

Tax money hard at work

Gg single mothers

Wow it’s on Facebook must be true

Ffs

@Deleted User why shouldnt it be?

<:hmm:411852282490257409>

No its a joke

But sum actually do it

There is a reasson single mothers are the worst perant

Even if it was true 1 individual choice isn’t indicative of an entire gender

Most criminals come from single mother homes

@Deleted User if it only was 1 choice...

Citation?

*cough black people have more single moms cough*

while the trend for single moms has been on the rise across the different race groups.. blacks are still outnumbering everyone

thats just a quick one I pulled from Wiki

u can google for more stuff..

I trust u can use google

see how after civil rights movement, the numbers go up

Condoms don’t feel as good so we should have more kids then we can afford - @Deleted User

okay so i have this exam tomorrow in political analyzis

do you guys knwo anything about women and equality?

No

yes

@beyond_gravity not my point at all, my point is why is it only on the women to prevent unintended pregnancies?

Woman are not equal end of exam lol

I thought women didnt feel much of a difference if being penetrated by a condom or not...

What you mean

The man wears the condom

@beyond_gravity lmao

@beyond_gravity true, if i want a D

He’s stopping the baby

Not the woman

boom-boom chakalaka, no preggo-preggo

No idea why anyone would have unprotected

Well, should i talk about the history of equality, and that the men gets a worse punishment if they do the act of raping a women that it would be if they had switched roles?

Selfishly idiotic

If you don’t want kids

What I’m saying is men should wear condoms

Women prefer it

@hansax I know that women are fucking complicated and sometimes annoying. and not equal at all

#metoo

Exactly

They don’t because men don’t like the feeling

Oh

@Deleted User the pill

Well those men are idiots

Who cares if you don’t like how it feels

@McBacoon Well, i can't tell that at all, everything i will say must be positive for women because the exam judge is a feminist

The pill has horrible effects on the body

Go buy a McDonald’s and cry about it

Not the pill

+ u should always wear a condom if you are having sex with somebody who is not tested clean and or who is a stranger

I mean the condom thing

Ducking guys

Just wear it

@hansax lmao, go suck her clit <:XD:412593890093432852>

sucks to be u

That’s what I’m saying I think we actually agree on something

Yea

Lazy idiots

Sure a baby is a better solution then wrapping up your ding ding

- dumbass guys everywhere

-the guy with HIV positive

@McBacoon i should take one for the team and offer her to fuck at the end of the presentation

give them an apple

LMAO

or buy them a new Bentley

hehe

<:VoteUp:495272934353666049>

Who’s buying who a Bentley ?

or i could just fuck both of them

or their uncle

<a:ifucc:454781303271849985>

Dude wut

Their uncle?