you mean the m30x? nah they're pretty good

eiaosi x6 fr

@凛音#8882 FR graph of a headphone im currently working on

thanks obama

@凛音#8882

guess it aint happening

@Tonmonkeyla yes

FR looks like aids

and stock pads are uncomfy af

return em if you can

I just saw a kid walk past wearing Xiaomeme Hybrid 3-drivers

Could tell by the shape and cable

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Help me to disprove rose aurora is the next /csg/ I should buy

@Droidbot xiaomeme is everywhere on where I live

all their csg sounds like shit

Painful trebles, second to zs5 v2

@Deleted User there is no FR of the rose shit

i'd be pretty wary of buying one

rose has had a fair bit of qc issues too

@Deleted User yeah the tri-drivers are super super painful

the dual aren't **as** bad

@HEKTIK already aware of that one.

head meme said they are very warm

pretty much I want to find /csg/ psuedo hd650 in a iem

get a im02 then

>/csg/

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restricting yourself to chinese stuff is dumb

expensive

Chinkshit hi fi is also expensive

@Deleted User you're not going to get a HD650 in an iem for anything close to $70

hell, you're not going to at all

im02 is as close as youre going to get for a reasonable price

im02?

audio technica im02

$300USD

no ty

its gud

What are some decent Chi-fi over ears?

I suggested my brother the same yenonas I have but he said he doesn't need anything that fancy

So something cheaper then

superlux

superlux 662 EVO, superlux 681 + new pads if he wants open @Maxumym

Do they not sell them on Ali?

they're on ali

I can only find replacement pads

For some reason

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20171017023808&SearchText=hd662

check ebay too

i find superlux go cheap on there sometimes

and gearbest/banggood of course

These cost more than my yenonas did <:alismirk:230784726615588865>

Not China but are sehnheiser HD 201 any decent

they're absolutely garbage

in 20$ price range they're overshadowed by the superlux

both in comfort and sound quality

yeah they're over that, but quality is multiple times better

i found out that theres rebranded yenonas

called tracer opal

theyre a lot cheaper

like a lot

which made me thonk that theyre gimped somehow

@Maxumym nibba what, 662 evos are cheap af

if youre a eurofag thomann has em cheap

wait wtf the 662's went up massively

40 USD on egay

My yenonas cost me 34.5

Usd

fuck thats cheap

I got them on a sale

Thanks to this discord no less

This looks ugly, christ

@fuckthapolice they are, you can buy these headphone shells on taobao and rebrand them as you see fit, so the tracer opal probably has different insides

is this the case with those tracer opals though?

@Maxumym my sentiments exactly

looks like putting a condom in your ear

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83 people sucessfully jewed

LOL

massscam

How do you guys know that's a scam?

Need to know so I don't get scammed in the future

are you FUCK?

this is /csg/

if you can find something cheaper outside of goybest/ali/ebay and isnt local, then where the hell are you getting your doinks

also massdrop is a scam

it's an """"enthusiast"""" website that used to sell shit at wholesale prices, but now they've taken the goy pill

MD is pretty much only good for keycaps and even then it's a tossup

what's a good chinkshit dac/amp combo

might just get a fiio k1

What's a DAC?

insert let me google that for you link

Thanks

digital to analog converter

I get that

What is it for?

Like as opposed to not having one

memes

Ffs

i just ordered a benjie s5

@systemxd it converts 0 and 1's to an analogue waveform

without one you can't play digital audio

I get that

But, why would you want one. Most speakers have one inside.

every phone has one

I get that an external one means that its better

they're just of varying quality

and as such

if people want something that's good quality

most good speakers don't

they use an external one

i can't think of many speakers that do actually

shitty "computer speakers" might

it's not rocket surgery

Bluetooth speakers mostly

I need it for my thinkpad

the internal dac suuuuuuuucks

I can hear hissing and whining and everything sounds like it has a vocal fry

@ultimate-drawmaster buy a cheap pcm2704 dac then

theyre decent

@systemxd doesnt even mean its better tbh, external dac is 9/10 times just placebo

only asctual improvement you get is if you have a _really old_ pc with super-shit onboard sound, or if you have some like ultra-retarded motherboard with a super shitty amp section after the onboard dac

any vaguely competently designed computer or phone is gonna have a perfectly fine dac, may need amp but the dac itself you gotta _try_ to fuck up

DAC/amps aren't useful for portable listening, but they're great for when you know you'll be in a relatively quiet room where noise floor is actually noticeable.

noise floor will never be noticeable

16 bit has a wider dynamic range than any music recording i have ever seen

i have seen a lot of music

an awful lot of audiophile hi fi 24 bit and higher music

literally no advantage for listening, the information just isn't there to notice

i'd prolly want one if i were using the dac as a function generator but i mean, i'd just use a function generator

note: i do use an external dac myself, because i dont wanna reach around the back of my chassis or fuck around with extension cords to plug in a different headphone

also because is not a dac it's a whole 2 in 2 out codec with phantom power and all that

does a dac even matter if you use bluetooth headphones

plz no crucify

@Tonmonkeyla bluetooth only transmit digital music, there's always a dac on your headphones

Tonmonkeyla: You're right, it doesn't matter. And I'm not so sure all bluetooth headphones has DAC, since bluetooth is digital anyway when it's transmitting. But every bluetooth headphone has a built-in sound card

@Kaytee i mean, i've been able to identify dacs in a blind AB a fair few times. mobo line outs included

I wonder if there are any cheap Bluetooth headphones out there with a quality DAC

@HEKTIK if anythng you've been hearing bad amp stage or ground loop etc, not the dac itself

dacs themselves are essentially off the shelf perfect beyons humans' ability to hear

didnt sound like a ground loop

but yeah amp stage maybe

you can measure em to be so

i should get into measuring sources

amps are a lot more vartied and easier to screw up

i already do a lot of transducer level stuff

a dac is generally just an off the shelf IC from TI and measurably perfect on its own

yeah ive been able to reliably ab amps a lot more now

shits weird

amps people do all sorts of dumb shit like having teeny tiny rail voltages or picking up noise on the inputs

i still love the cmoy/ra1

so stupid simple

and sounds legit good

my main gripe with the cmoy is the low output current keeping you from really driving some of the crazier cans

it could use a buffer amp

yeah

i like it more than the o2

aside from that is a good simple design

o2 sounded harsh

i dont get why

since its supposedly a cmoy on crack

im not enough of a sourcefag to care tho

i mean a cmoy on crack would just be parallel'd opamps or a buffer

latter being better former being cheaper

well, latter being better* *if you use a suitable buffer amp ic

*and have power supoply set up to handle as much current as the buffer will be providing

*and have headphone that benefits from high output current to begin with

muh planars

cmoy into he6 is endgame 😏

isn't the o2 supposed to be a wire with gain?

if you believe nwavguy, sure

i like it when my bass is nice and juicy and meaty and nutty and crunchy and gritty and smooth

"noise floor will never be noticeable"
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Clearly you've never used a lenovo laptop

fonge t01's bois

is that good or shit

shit

read impressions in thread or here http://trulyhektik.blogspot.com.au/2017/10/fonge-t01-review.html

theyre like, ok if you want mad bass mud

and only have like $3

their only real upside is their fit/comfort

oh wtf

I'd like to see how ZS5s measure but I don't want to sell my V1 pair to somebody to do so

send em 2 me

they're covered in ear wax

idgaf tbh

just wipe with some iso and swap tips

not like i dont shove foreign earwax into me all the time at a2a or whatever

delete this

t01 beats everything under $10000

thats why i completely destroyed mine and now have an empty shell

eh even for $2 i'd struggle to reccomend em

if you cant afford more than $2 you should probably be worrying about oher things

suppry and demand

i think they're good for $2-3 and p hard to find something better, but i dont have them anymore so I don't think I can say anything beyond that

that and they're bass heavy

yeah

super baSS

ive got the cheaper fonges in the post too

maybe theyll be better

what are the toppest meme bluetooth earbuds around $50

KZ and a Bluetooth cable

Doesn't get more meme than that

I really like the BT cable tbh

apart from the battery life which is a hair too little, an extra 1-2 hours I'd think it's 10/10

also when the battery gets low a chink voice spams "PREASE CHARGING"

bit annoying

sound quality not too bad?

I think I might be sold, purely for that chink voice

windy says the noise floor isnt too high so it might be fun

i wont get one but still

you can definitely hear it at lower volumes and in quiet spaces

but i dont use it in either of those because i have a life XD silly audiofools

exdeeee

also the standby battery life blows

that was my other main concern

d r o p p e d

i just turn it off

it runs for 3+ hours but

standby is also like 3 hours

What's the consensus on KZ ATE's? they're about $12 AUD on Ali atm

I've never owned a pair of chink earbuds and im nervous to get my first pair

p good if you're looking for a v sound signature

Would you recommend anything else for a similar price range?

a bit too muddy for me but they're good as a first pair

I went from ATE to ZS5

you could always follow autist @HEKTIK and have money

ate's have a ton of diff versions so you never know

yes

get money

get bills

buy vivos, have them break in 1 month

i already pulled the drivers out of mine lol

surprisingly easy

now i just need to find a good donor shell

Just pulled the trigger on some ATE's

riperino

@TCxUFATIME try the bt cable

https://www.gearbest.com/earbud-headphones/pp_712240.html

$2.99USD with code coolstan1

its off ozbargain so i think its for aus ip only

@Droidbot Says the code doesn't work for some reason

hm

wait what the fuck

i put it in my cart and the price increased

flash sale expired when code was init'd but code failed so meme

it says its still on flash sale though