because otherwise that justifies punishment of the many for the actions of the few

also agnosticism is a knowledge claim

you can be an agnostic atheist and still be militant anti-theist

But that doesn't stop me from having the theists arrested for the crimes they've tried to commit, now does it?

what crime did they commit?

Agnosticism, I think, is claiming one does not know

Pretty much the opposite of a knowledge claim

yes, its a knowledge claim so one can be agnostic atheist or agnostic theist

thats not what I mean by knowledge claim..

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What is a knowledge claim?

a claim about how certain one is about something @♠ Jokeward ♠

Oh, then I agree

@HotmanX32 but uh

95% of theists had nothing to do with those crimes

actually im too generous

99%

Really? Because I think those Gods hates humans.

you're going to punish innocent people for believing in something that you believe is wrong

you know how hypocritical that is lol?

you're claiming that theists commit crimes against innocents yet you are calling for the very same thing onto them

@Perception How how many theists are innocent?

of the crimes that you've mentioned, I'd say 95%

So what do you say about this?

https://www.satanslibrary.org/ExposingChristianity/New_Testament.html

if the new testament is flawed I don't see it as a material crime committed by the later Christians that followed it

a spiritual crime maybe

I don't see why you're trying so hard to rid of theists though

what exactly are they doing in modern society that makes them a target? they are probably the last people one would expect to blame for all of society's problems

@Perception Exactly.

They (supposedly) stole many things from other religions, and we need the supporters of those religions to hold the belief system itself accountable for the plagiarism. You understand what I'm saying?

but why is it wrong if they did steal from their religions?

It means there's no originality in *their* religions. Just corrupted versions of the religions that predated the abrahamic ones.

Transgender women should not compete in women's sports

society would be better off if transgender women didn't ex-

we'll discuss that later <:deeplmao2:587404165291048960>

@HotmanX32 so then its a spiritual crime maybe but not on the side of unknowing average theists

Nevertheless, they still need to be aware of it. This way, they'll know they're just pawns for the Jews, who commit genocide & pedophilia and cause the impoverishment of millions.

But should they be punished for it?

and also who's to say that atheists are not pawns of the elite as well?

The Elites *are* the Jews, who push for atheism to begin with. And yes, they should. In fact, you may not realize it, but the Jews are committing pedophilia beneath our radar as we speak.

i use the elite term because i prefer not to generalize it to all jews

@Perception The innocent ones will have thoughts of it sooner or later.

also if the atheists are just as much pawns as theists why are we only punishing theists?

especially when theists are the only ones with a moral compass

To tell them the truth about the Jews' deception. I believe the Jews *will not* take responsibility even if I hold them accountable. If they do, it's only to save face.

assuming that over a thousand years ago there were jews that deceived theists into converting

what makes the jews today accountable for what happened then?

@Perception The whole tribe haven't learned from their crimes.

but its not their crimes

also no there are many anti zionist jews for example

there are liberal and conservative jews

I don't give a fuck. They're still Jews regardless of how much you divide the bastards.

lol these sound like christian ideas

that sin is inherited

and that you are not forgiven despite not knowing that you were sinning

@Perception And you're saying that Christians aren't sinners?

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anyway it seems quite odd to choose to pick on theists when there's clearly more zionist influence on atheists

I didn't say anything about Christians themselves I'm saying the things you're saying sound very Christian in that
1. Crimes are inherited
2. You are committing a crime and are to be held accountable even if you didn't know about it

...It's amzing that we allowed these stains of the earth to still exist.

but didn't you say genocide is wrong

@Perception True, but What I said a moment ago was referring more to the religions than the people. I didn't say I want their supporters killed.

okay so

what's the ideal world?

whats the goal here

I want to create a world where the crimes of the supporters of the abrahamic religions
exposed to the world, which would then give me a reason to have them abolished.

whats the final goal though?

a world without religion?

...Pretty much. If the others religions are revealed to have committed any crimes, I'd have them abolished as well.

what do we define as a religion then?

I don't know. I'm not a big supporter of religion myself.

I'd say religion is inevitable

humans will worship something, be it material or immaterial

the modern world is proof of that. we have people worshipping themselves, or others, or finding purpose in much lower things such as money, food, art, music, etc.

claiming to not worship the spiritual only means that you worship the material

its just human nature

But it's all meaningless once we humans are extinct.

we don't know that

So what do *you* think is wrong with the world?

Well the world's not perfect and it'll never be, and I don't think that there's a way to solve all the problems in the world individually and I don't think its right to force anything spiritual upon others. However I do believe that modern society is being corrupted by one force and that a lot of problems in the world would be solved by taking just one thing out of the equation: Zionism.

All the recent major wars, diseases, poisonous beliefs, lost families, destroyed nations, mental illnesses, etc. are caused/encouraged by it directly or indirectly

It doesn't matter which part of the world you're from, you've been impacted by it

if you're in China, if you're in South America, if you're in Africa, if you're in India, and obv first world countries even more so, no matter where you are your life would be completely different if not for this

and arguably much better if not for it

Zionism doesn't explain all of the Anti-Zionist Jews in our countries It doesn't even explain anti-Zionist Jews raping teenagers in England.

why are they raping teens there and getting away with it?

because of zionism

Zionism is just support for a Jewish homeland.

its bigger than that

they can make it out to be an innocent "i want this small country to be protected from the bad guys" all they like but the truth is that this ideology has corrupted everything

@Perception Why would you think that's the case when it's Jews causing mischief?

wdym?

Jews aren't the ones that are protecting Israel

Of there aren't. There are Crypto-Jews as well, and Trump's office is filled with Jews as well.

UK, America, Russia, China, India, all of them are led and have always been led by non jews

Yeah, no.

I don't agree with you on that one.

there a few exceptions

but my point is that its not jews that do all the work

zionism is not specific to jews

Every country is run by Jews.

by zionists

saudi arabia is led by zionists, not jews

Zionism only works for Jewish interests.

What makes you think otherwise?

possibly but zionism is not specific to jews

and jews are not specific to zionism

But that doesn't change the fact that Zionism advances Jewish interests.

we don't disagree in that

zionism is the poison though

100%

Which brings me to my original point. Jews need to be held accountable. If they don't take responisibility out of genuine remorse, then they should be executed.

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Lol why are we going against the innocent theists again though

there are Jewish atheists

that are Zionist

Sam Haris

But you said Zionism is poison, yes?

as well as other IDW members

yes

Zionism ≠ Judaism

Then why not arrest every last Jew and bring them to Justice?

i can make the same generalization for atheists lol

that all atheists are anti-theist

its just as valid as saying all jews are zionists

What I'm saying is since Zionism furthers Jewish interests and homelands, why not arrest the Jews themselves for suggesting the idea in the first place?

anti-theism furthers atheistic interests

that doesn't make all atheists anti-theistic

But that's different. Zionism is just a diversion for Jews to take the world.

sure but that doesn't mean all of them are responsible for it

and that doesnt mean that only they are responsible for it

the british handed them everything they needed

I'll make them be accountable anyway since they're complicit in some form.

and all the other zionist powers are also accountable

not just complicit lol, they put in all the effort

Zionism = Jewish interests

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I mean not necessarily all Jews

many Jews died because of Zionism

Jews used to live just fine under the Ottomans

it was Zionism that led to Jews being kicked from Muslim nations

and thats a minor and dated example

And you're saying we should let the poor ones for being complicit in, but not committing usury, is what you're telling me?

@Perception Sure didn't stop them from infiltrating Islam.

well if they're innocent, they're innocent

They and their gods are not innocent, @Perception . Their crimes must be addressed and I'll make them pay for everything they've done, even if they don't know it.

what about your gods tho

Sorry. I don't if he exists or not.

I'm talking about the material gods

the alternative to organized religion is not any better

I don't see money as a religion.

it is worshipped

By Jews.

its not organized religion but it is worshipped by humans

With Jews imposing it on us, no less.

and hence a religion; hedonism.

Touche, but I still disagree on Zionism not being Judaism.

Then one needs to study judaism lol, Zionism might further them into positions etc but it doesn't mean that all of them are Zionists

And I've given examples of people that are non Jewish Zionists

You know what? That makes them pawns to the Jews.

I suggest you look into all the divisions amongst Jews not only politically but also ethnically

Sephardic

you'll also realize there's one of those "coincidental" patterns

Ashken***

... You've read Mike Rivero?

No I haven't, why?

Just curious. Where did you learn about Zionism? Are you a Jew?

No lol I'm Muslim, I've always known about it to some degree

Then you might be in a for an eye-opener (IF this is true, that is):

https://exposingthelieofislam.wordpress.com/

Many of the claims being made are weak and are known by most Muslims

We know that the Kaaba was used by Pagans and that Arabia wasn't always Muslim... its common knowledge

and the other claims are the common paedophilia, stolen ideas, etc claims that are also addressed in Qur'an and Hadith

You would know that many of the claims in that are false if you had studied Islam for yourself

Then how is it that Muslims are committing crimes despite being "a religion of peace" without using the 'bad apple' card?

this guy has no idea what he's talking about

@HotmanX32 Well this goes back to the problem of generalizations

we need to see if what they're doing is actually in accordance with Islam

I didn't come here to speak about spiritual bullcrap.

no one said its spiritual

https://youtu.be/l2MBgK79eLw

this is based on hadith which is one of the primary sources for deriving sharia

Fuck. I give up.

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gg i suppose

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@HotmanX32#3654

I mean your own source says that ISIS is Israeli so why do you need me to redpill <:thonk:517650135270948864>

#banallmuslims

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tfw none of you can make a solid argument

@Perception does treachery and mutilation include rape?

wdym

because in none of the rules it mentioned rape I think

so I'm guessin izz fine then

and women who are fighting are not to be killed too I guess

@Perception LOL, you made him leave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj2UksH_nSI

Hello

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Yo guys what's your thoughts on this apple I got in school

pretty cool apple

It's loading

Internet is slow at my dad's house

Gross ama right

never seen that before

This is a little awkward

looks like you could just wash that off

Heres my apples.

where are the channels

Can you see em?

only 1 text channel?

general and voice related basically

ok

i keep getting banned for disagreeing with other discords

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgLKVaJwpXY

@Daphene this video is dumb

lol

this is a pretty bad argument though

but there are pretty good anti-commie memes

You guys wanna know what makes my skin crawl

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVTj_gyZdY0

https://youtu.be/9J5JufOYg1E

>libertarian
>socialism
pick one

@Bloodmasked
>implying they're mutually exclusive

Epic

im a communist capitalist then

it depends on which definition of libertarian youre using

libertarian is tax man bad

libertarian can refer to exclusively social political policy irrelevant of economics

Wow I joined literally 2 minutes ago and I've already found the server pseud

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism

@Deleted User "pseud"?

Not you big fella

The blood guy

they should refer to themselves as libtards not libertarian

lol

Libertardians

socialism does not give u any freedom nor does anything under left-libertarian

my bro is a georgist hes cringe asf

"we should tax land because there is limited space on earth"

like what how do u get from limited land to tax

he just doesnt explain

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