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2019-04-23 19:16:52 UTC

Not you

2019-04-23 19:17:26 UTC

Okay!

2019-04-23 19:17:57 UTC

@CallMeTruckson Especially him

2019-04-23 19:19:03 UTC

Where is Specialist i miss him...

2019-04-23 19:19:05 UTC

@sarge show me one place where a free market works for healthcare

2019-04-23 19:19:10 UTC

USA!

2019-04-23 19:19:17 UTC

It doesn’t work

2019-04-23 19:19:20 UTC

Its cheap

2019-04-23 19:19:27 UTC

And we get more money for medical research.

2019-04-23 19:19:39 UTC

Healthcare won’t work in USA

2019-04-23 19:19:43 UTC

In the US prices are extremely high

2019-04-23 19:19:57 UTC

It would be even higher if we had universal

2019-04-23 19:19:58 UTC

Not really i know a plan that is $60

2019-04-23 19:20:10 UTC

Diabetics have to skip insulin doses because insulin costs so damn much

2019-04-23 19:20:11 UTC

GG @Andrew_Hunter, you just advanced to level 7!

2019-04-23 19:20:23 UTC

Not if you have insurance.

2019-04-23 19:20:25 UTC

If we implemented it, we Americans would need to be paying 62% more dollars in income taxes

2019-04-23 19:20:34 UTC

Taxes is already pretty bad

2019-04-23 19:20:40 UTC

The taxes alone would cost us as well.

2019-04-23 19:20:46 UTC

Universal health care is not free.

2019-04-23 19:20:53 UTC

@Make America Great Again many people can’t afford insurance

2019-04-23 19:21:01 UTC

Also a lot of doctors would leave the health field

2019-04-23 19:21:01 UTC

GG @sarge, you just advanced to level 1!

2019-04-23 19:21:05 UTC

If you don't have a job sure if you do then yes.

2019-04-23 19:21:17 UTC

@sarge taxes are the lowest they’ve been since the 1920s!

2019-04-23 19:21:19 UTC

Doctors would be making less and quality at hospitals would decrease

2019-04-23 19:21:32 UTC

Where do you live

2019-04-23 19:21:38 UTC

California

2019-04-23 19:21:51 UTC

That explains your views

2019-04-23 19:22:01 UTC

It depends on where you live

2019-04-23 19:22:07 UTC

I live near chicago

2019-04-23 19:22:09 UTC

Taxes are bad

2019-04-23 19:22:20 UTC

Not every Californian is a liberal

2019-04-23 19:22:28 UTC

If we get universal healthcare in US, my family wouldnt make enough to sustain itself

2019-04-23 19:22:49 UTC

Taxes also cost money. It would be better just to buy a plan which is cheaper here.

2019-04-23 19:22:55 UTC

62% more taxes on income. Thats like more than half of your paycheck gone to healthcare

2019-04-23 19:23:03 UTC

Is it really that worth it? No

2019-04-23 19:23:16 UTC

@sarge Medicare should be allowed to negotiate prescription drug prices to keep them low

2019-04-23 19:23:41 UTC

Thats what I want, but having free healthcare is fantasy

2019-04-23 19:23:51 UTC

@Andrew_Hunter which will lower the doctors pay as well as the amount of money research america has for medicine.

2019-04-23 19:23:53 UTC

Drug companies do rip us off on the cost

2019-04-23 19:23:57 UTC

The prices of prescription drugs these days are just downright unethical

2019-04-23 19:24:10 UTC

We also have a group of people who take care of that.

2019-04-23 19:24:16 UTC

Look at Skrelli and congress.

2019-04-23 19:24:27 UTC

Shkrelli*

2019-04-23 19:24:32 UTC

I believe the government should regulate the prices of medicine. But universal healthcare is a socialist unreal fantasy

2019-04-23 19:24:51 UTC

The USA is different from tiny European countries.

2019-04-23 19:25:12 UTC

True and we have much more infrastructure

2019-04-23 19:25:14 UTC

I don’t believe it’s acceptable for thousands to die every year because they can’t afford medical care

2019-04-23 19:25:39 UTC

Ok but universal healthcare isnt the solution

2019-04-23 19:25:41 UTC

They can they just don't want to fork over the 60 bucks a month for it and aren't smart enough to get health care at 18

2019-04-23 19:25:52 UTC

Putting money in the pot early is important for insurance.

2019-04-23 19:26:15 UTC

Also those people arent your average americans that get jobs. A lot are just people relying on welfare who are to lazy to get a job

2019-04-23 19:26:39 UTC

Bernie said so himself if you work hard you can get rich.

2019-04-23 19:26:48 UTC

And yes he did say that which agitated his base.

2019-04-23 19:27:28 UTC

Thats true because my family came here as immigrants during when Yugoslavia was communist. They were starving. They came here and worked their asses off. They now have cars, house, farm and more

2019-04-23 19:27:34 UTC

The american dream is possible

2019-04-23 19:27:50 UTC

Gotta work hard Welfare isn't going to sustain you long term.

2019-04-23 19:27:55 UTC

They arent dying on the streets

2019-04-23 19:27:56 UTC

If you work hard you can get rich but not so rich that the Walton family owns more wealth than the bottom 50% of Americans

2019-04-23 19:28:08 UTC

They didn’t receive welfare or free medicare

2019-04-23 19:28:23 UTC

1 family should not own more wealth than over 150 million people

2019-04-23 19:28:40 UTC

Did that family work for it?

2019-04-23 19:28:56 UTC

No

2019-04-23 19:28:58 UTC

Yes, so did generations before them

2019-04-23 19:29:09 UTC

Oh they got rich from no where?

2019-04-23 19:29:22 UTC

Yes they did. And also wealth doesn't stagnate. Rockerfellers were the richest people to ever exist but now are not.

2019-04-23 19:29:30 UTC

The Walton family is no different.

2019-04-23 19:29:35 UTC

They created Wal-Mart, a store that exploits their workers and doesn’t pay them enough

2019-04-23 19:29:52 UTC

They pay their workers. I wouldn't consider that an exploit.

2019-04-23 19:30:05 UTC

Ok so if I work at a cash register, I should be payed more?

2019-04-23 19:30:11 UTC

If their workers do feel exploited they can always quit and find another job.

2019-04-23 19:30:20 UTC

Minimum wage jobs like walmart aren’t supposed to be something you do your whole life

2019-04-23 19:30:34 UTC

Contracts are a 2 way street. You and the other party have to agree to them.

2019-04-23 19:31:20 UTC

Easy to say that but once you quit a job there’s no guarantee you’ll find another one and some people are just stuck on minimum wage jobs because if they leave to look for another job they will end up out on the streets

2019-04-23 19:31:42 UTC

There is in this country. I see "Help Wanted" signs everywhere i drive as a trucker.

2019-04-23 19:32:07 UTC

Unemployment today is at the lowest we’ve seen in a while. If you cannot get a job, you aren’t trying hard enough

2019-04-23 19:32:07 UTC

GG @sarge, you just advanced to level 2!

2019-04-23 19:32:09 UTC

Thats facts

2019-04-23 19:32:26 UTC

America is going through the 4th Industrial revolution at this current time.

2019-04-23 19:32:30 UTC

Its booming.

2019-04-23 19:33:06 UTC

Its really easy to find a job.

2019-04-23 19:33:19 UTC

It is.

2019-04-23 19:33:45 UTC

And about the minimum wage, as FDR said, no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country

2019-04-23 19:34:03 UTC

when you gotta say "thats facts" i instantly look at your comment and see its false

2019-04-23 19:34:08 UTC

Its the law. We have one of those.

2019-04-23 19:34:09 UTC

How

2019-04-23 19:34:15 UTC

How is it false?

2019-04-23 19:34:41 UTC

Also minimum wage is not supposed to sustain you for your whole life. Its for 16 year olds who just started working and need experience.

2019-04-23 19:34:43 UTC

sarge because you are lying

2019-04-23 19:34:48 UTC

That unemployment is the lowest its been in a while and that if I go look for a minimum wage job and can’t find one, its simply because I’m not trying.

2019-04-23 19:35:05 UTC

No it’s not, the minimum wage was not created to give teens working experience

2019-04-23 19:35:08 UTC

unemployment is low in blue states, but red states are crumbling

2019-04-23 19:35:18 UTC

It was created so that workers could have a decent living

2019-04-23 19:36:08 UTC

Wrong

2019-04-23 19:36:24 UTC

Minimum wage jobs aren’t supposed to be something you keep

2019-04-23 19:36:30 UTC

No one who works full time should be forced to live in poverty

2019-04-23 19:36:34 UTC

sarge is gonna tell me what donny the clown says!!

2019-04-23 19:36:43 UTC

I will too!

2019-04-23 19:36:46 UTC

yes they are sarge

2019-04-23 19:37:02 UTC

Wages are not stagnant i don't even have minimum wage.

2019-04-23 19:37:06 UTC

not everyone has the money to change careers while working

2019-04-23 19:37:08 UTC

I am well above that.

2019-04-23 19:37:14 UTC

Specialist, this is exactly why you look like a fool when you talk. You take politics as a joke

2019-04-23 19:37:23 UTC

The minimum wage itself was created so workers could have a decent living

2019-04-23 19:37:54 UTC

sarge, thats the red righties, you guys live in your own version of the truman show where you are in constant fear of being replaced

2019-04-23 19:37:59 UTC

Minimum wage jobs are not for experienced workers. I am an experienced worker because i am a veteran. I do not make minimum wage but i have a wage.

2019-04-23 19:37:59 UTC

GG @Make America Great Again, you just advanced to level 8!

2019-04-23 19:38:16 UTC

You are a person that is demoralized. You are unable to assess true information. The facts tells nothing to you. Even if I shower you with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; you won’t believe it

2019-04-23 19:38:36 UTC

sarge, stop projecting your own drawbacks on to the left

2019-04-23 19:38:39 UTC

You are not awake

2019-04-23 19:38:46 UTC

sarge im awake

2019-04-23 19:38:46 UTC

No, you are a pawn of the left

2019-04-23 19:38:51 UTC

I think we should all calm down and be nice to each other.

2019-04-23 19:39:00 UTC

Yes but you don’t realize whats going on in reality

2019-04-23 19:39:01 UTC

wrong sarge!!

2019-04-23 19:39:16 UTC

I’m trying to be nice here, I haven’t insulted anyone

2019-04-23 19:39:23 UTC

sarge, just go pray to your god, dont worry about anything, just pray

2019-04-23 19:39:28 UTC

You are demoralized. You can’t understand the facts. You put feelings first

2019-04-23 19:39:32 UTC

Yeah you and i can have a civil conversation without divulging into madness

2019-04-23 19:39:40 UTC

See, you insult because you cannot take criticism

2019-04-23 19:39:45 UTC

sarge., just pray to your god that i wake up!!!

2019-04-23 19:39:47 UTC

Open your eyes

2019-04-23 19:40:01 UTC

We can disagree but we do not need to insult one another.

2019-04-23 19:40:01 UTC

See this is why people like you will never get anywhere in life

2019-04-23 19:40:15 UTC

sarge, your brainwashing is strong!!

2019-04-23 19:40:18 UTC

You keep insulting me because you are wrong.

2019-04-23 19:40:28 UTC

Yours is, just look at yourself. Pathetic

2019-04-23 19:40:34 UTC

=3 Why cant we be friends? =3

2019-04-23 19:40:36 UTC

sarge, the power of critical thinking compels you!!!

2019-04-23 19:40:45 UTC

How mature^

2019-04-23 19:40:59 UTC

Anyone wanna join me in VC?

2019-04-23 19:41:04 UTC

THE POWER OF CRITICAL THINGKING COMPELS YOU!!!!!!!1

2019-04-23 19:41:17 UTC

What's the topic?

2019-04-23 19:41:17 UTC

You do not have to use caps to get our point across.

2019-04-23 19:41:22 UTC

Stop making yourself look like a joke

2019-04-23 19:41:31 UTC

I can’t join VC cause I’m sick at the moment

2019-04-23 19:41:46 UTC

You are so brainwashed that you cannot see what I’m trying to say. Open your eyes and think

2019-04-23 19:42:04 UTC

sarge stop saying thinkg like that while your trump says stupid shit every 4 hours

2019-04-23 19:42:09 UTC

Don’t be so one sided. I was like you too, I supported Bernie. I realized how wrong he is

2019-04-23 19:42:29 UTC

sarge, bernie is the real way to make america great

2019-04-23 19:42:29 UTC

Trump is good

2019-04-23 19:42:36 UTC

sarge no he isnt

2019-04-23 19:42:38 UTC

No, Bernie is how I will die

2019-04-23 19:42:43 UTC

wrong

2019-04-23 19:42:54 UTC

Universal Healthcare means I pay 62% more in taxes

2019-04-23 19:42:58 UTC

nice TV fox news reaction

2019-04-23 19:43:09 UTC

Universal Healthcare means I will make less when I become a doctor some day

2019-04-23 19:43:15 UTC

sarge loves fake news

2019-04-23 19:43:32 UTC

@sarge UHC does not raise your tax rates by 62%

2019-04-23 19:43:56 UTC

sarge can look a dying child in the face and say, sorry you are too poor to live!!

2019-04-23 19:43:59 UTC

You drown yourself into it. Look how pathetic you are. Germany do you not see that people on your side of politics are pathetic losers that won’t get anywhere in life?

2019-04-23 19:44:32 UTC

sarge america will get UHC no matter what you do

2019-04-23 19:44:44 UTC

UHC does, our current taxes would only pay 1/3rds for universal healthcare. Where do we get 2 more trillion dollars? Taxes.

2019-04-23 19:44:46 UTC

Look at the facts, Middle class families in the UK do not pay 62% in taxes

2019-04-23 19:44:54 UTC

Its a different country

2019-04-23 19:45:02 UTC

You cannot compare small countries to bigger ones

2019-04-23 19:45:03 UTC

GG @sarge, you just advanced to level 3!

2019-04-23 19:45:09 UTC

sarge thats wrong, health care the way it is now will start costing even more

2019-04-23 19:45:17 UTC

It doesn’t

2019-04-23 19:45:21 UTC

yes it will

2019-04-23 19:45:28 UTC

I’m healthy, I don’t have any problems and I’m not paying shit

2019-04-23 19:45:39 UTC

The US would have a lot more money if we stopped doing unnecessary wars in the Middle East

2019-04-23 19:45:47 UTC

sarge i havent payed money on healthcare for 10 years

2019-04-23 19:45:52 UTC

Not really, we lose barely from that

2019-04-23 19:46:03 UTC

i dont need it i heal on my own

2019-04-23 19:46:12 UTC

By 2050 Iraq will have costed us 7 trillion dollars

2019-04-23 19:46:21 UTC

Yeah

2019-04-23 19:46:31 UTC

UHC will cost us much more

2019-04-23 19:46:37 UTC

Iraq is a victory and now is fixed.

2019-04-23 19:46:50 UTC

They are now a country that is progressing.

2019-04-23 19:46:51 UTC

sarge money isnt an issue, when they spend 500 billion a year on bombs dropping and killing innocent civilians

2019-04-23 19:46:54 UTC

That’s too much, and the war was based on a false assumption in the first place

2019-04-23 19:47:00 UTC

Dude not really

2019-04-23 19:47:03 UTC

We won it.

2019-04-23 19:47:05 UTC

Saddam did not have weapons of mass destruction

2019-04-23 19:47:20 UTC

sarge, im sure the corporations will pay for it, they owe us big time

2019-04-23 19:47:28 UTC

If i was Saddam and i wanted to screw over a superpower that accused me of having WMDs i would remove them before being defeated.

2019-04-23 19:47:34 UTC

Ok I agree that corporations like amazon should be taxed

2019-04-23 19:47:40 UTC

They dont pay a dime

2019-04-23 19:47:52 UTC

sarge then you disagree with donny the orange clown

2019-04-23 19:47:55 UTC

I don't wanna pay taxes either.

2019-04-23 19:47:58 UTC

Not really

2019-04-23 19:47:59 UTC

But i got to.

2019-04-23 19:48:12 UTC

@Make America Great Again prove that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction

2019-04-23 19:48:24 UTC

Specialist shut the fuck up, you socialist retard. I can be republican and not agree with all views

2019-04-23 19:48:26 UTC

sarge yes, actions speak louder than words, and trump gives them trillions of dollars in tax cuts

2019-04-23 19:48:26 UTC

I am saying if i was Saddam thats what i would do.

2019-04-23 19:48:38 UTC

You are literally braindead and just repeat “Orange man bad”

2019-04-23 19:48:44 UTC

You have no IQ left.

2019-04-23 19:48:51 UTC

sarge get a helmet, kid

2019-04-23 19:48:52 UTC

You are so scripted

2019-04-23 19:48:59 UTC

Dude get a brain

2019-04-23 19:49:04 UTC

And Iraq isn’t really progressing, their country is still in shambles after the war

2019-04-23 19:49:16 UTC

Trump gave my families business too in tax cuts

2019-04-23 19:49:19 UTC

sarge just ignores all crimes commited by his goddess donny the clown

2019-04-23 19:49:28 UTC

It is their GDP is growing and if you talk to people who have been there recently its actually nice.

2019-04-23 19:49:29 UTC

And we saved over 10,000

2019-04-23 19:49:42 UTC

The USA has won Iraq took us awhile but we did it.

2019-04-23 19:49:46 UTC

He has committed anything. You believe in the bait the media gives you

2019-04-23 19:49:49 UTC

Thats sad

2019-04-23 19:49:54 UTC

To be fair we had a lot of European support as well

2019-04-23 19:49:56 UTC

Mueller report- nothing

2019-04-23 19:49:57 UTC

sarge, the democrats created 400 million jobs this year!!

2019-04-23 19:49:58 UTC

So thanks Germany!

2019-04-23 19:50:07 UTC

Thats impossible

2019-04-23 19:50:13 UTC

No collusion, No obstruction

2019-04-23 19:50:18 UTC

sarge its true, the honest to gods truth

2019-04-23 19:50:18 UTC

America doesnt even have 400 million people

2019-04-23 19:50:23 UTC

You just said fake shit

2019-04-23 19:50:24 UTC

@sarge so what about when Obama did over 10 small business tax cuts during his first term? Are you gonna give him credit for that?

2019-04-23 19:50:25 UTC

sarge you are dumb

2019-04-23 19:50:41 UTC

He had to he was dealing with an economic crisis.

2019-04-23 19:50:45 UTC

Yes I do give him credit. I dont agree with some of the other stuff he did

2019-04-23 19:50:51 UTC

sarge the democrats created 500 trillion jobs last year

2019-04-23 19:51:21 UTC

Just because you’re a democrat doesnt mean you have to dislike all of trumps things

2019-04-23 19:51:25 UTC

I liked some of obamas

2019-04-23 19:51:27 UTC

donald stopped 200 billion jobs from being created this week

2019-04-23 19:51:29 UTC

Here’s my position on taxes, i like Middle and lower class tax cuts, but I don’t like tax cuts for the rich

2019-04-23 19:51:39 UTC

How do you create 500 trillion jobs when the earth doesn't even have that many people?

2019-04-23 19:51:49 UTC

Same but the rich should be taxed to hell either

2019-04-23 19:52:12 UTC

@Make America Great Again Hes being braindead just ignore that useless corpse

2019-04-23 19:52:14 UTC

sarge, you have no clue about reality, your critical thinking skills are severely lacking

2019-04-23 19:52:14 UTC

The rich should be taxed reasonably, that’s just my opinion

2019-04-23 19:52:37 UTC

MAGA do some thinking bud

2019-04-23 19:52:42 UTC

Yes but if they are taxed more they will leave the US

2019-04-23 19:52:43 UTC

Even if you include A.I. of all of earth there still isn't that many jobs.

2019-04-23 19:52:47 UTC

i know it hurts but try!!

2019-04-23 19:52:50 UTC

And the machines too.

2019-04-23 19:52:57 UTC

And small business tax cuts are a good thing

2019-04-23 19:52:59 UTC

I am thinking i am thinking you are trolling me.

2019-04-23 19:53:00 UTC

you are thining small scale

2019-04-23 19:53:00 UTC

Thats how Sweden lost a lot of their rich people

2019-04-23 19:53:12 UTC

Yeah Trumps tax cuts have been helping us Germany.

2019-04-23 19:53:23 UTC

sarge sweden hasnt lost any rich people!!

2019-04-23 19:53:27 UTC

We should be encouraging more small businesses to rise up and create fair competition

2019-04-23 19:53:28 UTC

They have

2019-04-23 19:53:39 UTC

Read something called history during the 20th century

2019-04-23 19:53:47 UTC

MAGA no they arent, thats insane, trickle down economics are a joke

2019-04-23 19:54:04 UTC

They have, my family saved money

2019-04-23 19:54:15 UTC

wrong!!

2019-04-23 19:54:18 UTC

I disagree with the Bush and Trump tax cuts because they cut taxes on the rich way too much

2019-04-23 19:54:36 UTC

I have gotten a tax cut i am not super wealthy.

2019-04-23 19:54:45 UTC

And Bush kind of destroyed the economy as well

2019-04-23 19:54:52 UTC

kind of?

2019-04-23 19:54:54 UTC

It takes more than one person to do that.

2019-04-23 19:54:55 UTC

If you tax the rich you’ll piss them off. Rich people makes the economy boom as well

2019-04-23 19:55:08 UTC

And the rich can leave.

2019-04-23 19:55:14 UTC

They have the money to avoid the taxes and will.

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