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Okay!
@CallMeTruckson Especially him
Where is Specialist i miss him...
@sarge show me one place where a free market works for healthcare
USA!
It doesn’t work
Its cheap
And we get more money for medical research.
Healthcare won’t work in USA
In the US prices are extremely high
It would be even higher if we had universal
Not really i know a plan that is $60
Diabetics have to skip insulin doses because insulin costs so damn much
GG @Andrew_Hunter, you just advanced to level 7!
Not if you have insurance.
If we implemented it, we Americans would need to be paying 62% more dollars in income taxes
Taxes is already pretty bad
The taxes alone would cost us as well.
Universal health care is not free.
@Make America Great Again many people can’t afford insurance
Also a lot of doctors would leave the health field
If you don't have a job sure if you do then yes.
@sarge taxes are the lowest they’ve been since the 1920s!
Doctors would be making less and quality at hospitals would decrease
Where do you live
California
That explains your views
It depends on where you live
I live near chicago
Taxes are bad
Not every Californian is a liberal
If we get universal healthcare in US, my family wouldnt make enough to sustain itself
Taxes also cost money. It would be better just to buy a plan which is cheaper here.
62% more taxes on income. Thats like more than half of your paycheck gone to healthcare
Is it really that worth it? No
@sarge Medicare should be allowed to negotiate prescription drug prices to keep them low
Thats what I want, but having free healthcare is fantasy
@Andrew_Hunter which will lower the doctors pay as well as the amount of money research america has for medicine.
Drug companies do rip us off on the cost
The prices of prescription drugs these days are just downright unethical
We also have a group of people who take care of that.
Look at Skrelli and congress.
Shkrelli*
I believe the government should regulate the prices of medicine. But universal healthcare is a socialist unreal fantasy
The USA is different from tiny European countries.
True and we have much more infrastructure
I don’t believe it’s acceptable for thousands to die every year because they can’t afford medical care
Ok but universal healthcare isnt the solution
They can they just don't want to fork over the 60 bucks a month for it and aren't smart enough to get health care at 18
Putting money in the pot early is important for insurance.
Also those people arent your average americans that get jobs. A lot are just people relying on welfare who are to lazy to get a job
Bernie said so himself if you work hard you can get rich.
And yes he did say that which agitated his base.
Thats true because my family came here as immigrants during when Yugoslavia was communist. They were starving. They came here and worked their asses off. They now have cars, house, farm and more
The american dream is possible
Gotta work hard Welfare isn't going to sustain you long term.
They arent dying on the streets
If you work hard you can get rich but not so rich that the Walton family owns more wealth than the bottom 50% of Americans
They didn’t receive welfare or free medicare
1 family should not own more wealth than over 150 million people
Did that family work for it?
No
Yes, so did generations before them
Oh they got rich from no where?
Yes they did. And also wealth doesn't stagnate. Rockerfellers were the richest people to ever exist but now are not.
The Walton family is no different.
They created Wal-Mart, a store that exploits their workers and doesn’t pay them enough
They pay their workers. I wouldn't consider that an exploit.
Ok so if I work at a cash register, I should be payed more?
If their workers do feel exploited they can always quit and find another job.
Minimum wage jobs like walmart aren’t supposed to be something you do your whole life
Contracts are a 2 way street. You and the other party have to agree to them.
Easy to say that but once you quit a job there’s no guarantee you’ll find another one and some people are just stuck on minimum wage jobs because if they leave to look for another job they will end up out on the streets
There is in this country. I see "Help Wanted" signs everywhere i drive as a trucker.
Unemployment today is at the lowest we’ve seen in a while. If you cannot get a job, you aren’t trying hard enough
Thats facts
America is going through the 4th Industrial revolution at this current time.
Its booming.
Its really easy to find a job.
It is.
And about the minimum wage, as FDR said, no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country
when you gotta say "thats facts" i instantly look at your comment and see its false
Its the law. We have one of those.
How
How is it false?
Also minimum wage is not supposed to sustain you for your whole life. Its for 16 year olds who just started working and need experience.
sarge because you are lying
That unemployment is the lowest its been in a while and that if I go look for a minimum wage job and can’t find one, its simply because I’m not trying.
No it’s not, the minimum wage was not created to give teens working experience
unemployment is low in blue states, but red states are crumbling
It was created so that workers could have a decent living
Wrong
Minimum wage jobs aren’t supposed to be something you keep
No one who works full time should be forced to live in poverty
sarge is gonna tell me what donny the clown says!!
I will too!
yes they are sarge
Wages are not stagnant i don't even have minimum wage.
not everyone has the money to change careers while working
I am well above that.
Specialist, this is exactly why you look like a fool when you talk. You take politics as a joke
The minimum wage itself was created so workers could have a decent living
sarge, thats the red righties, you guys live in your own version of the truman show where you are in constant fear of being replaced
Minimum wage jobs are not for experienced workers. I am an experienced worker because i am a veteran. I do not make minimum wage but i have a wage.
GG @Make America Great Again, you just advanced to level 8!
You are a person that is demoralized. You are unable to assess true information. The facts tells nothing to you. Even if I shower you with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; you won’t believe it
sarge, stop projecting your own drawbacks on to the left
You are not awake
sarge im awake
No, you are a pawn of the left
I think we should all calm down and be nice to each other.
Yes but you don’t realize whats going on in reality
wrong sarge!!
I’m trying to be nice here, I haven’t insulted anyone
sarge, just go pray to your god, dont worry about anything, just pray
You are demoralized. You can’t understand the facts. You put feelings first
Yeah you and i can have a civil conversation without divulging into madness
See, you insult because you cannot take criticism
sarge., just pray to your god that i wake up!!!
Open your eyes
We can disagree but we do not need to insult one another.
See this is why people like you will never get anywhere in life
sarge, your brainwashing is strong!!
You keep insulting me because you are wrong.
Yours is, just look at yourself. Pathetic
=3 Why cant we be friends? =3
sarge, the power of critical thinking compels you!!!
How mature^
Anyone wanna join me in VC?
THE POWER OF CRITICAL THINGKING COMPELS YOU!!!!!!!1
What's the topic?
You do not have to use caps to get our point across.
Stop making yourself look like a joke
I can’t join VC cause I’m sick at the moment
You are so brainwashed that you cannot see what I’m trying to say. Open your eyes and think
sarge stop saying thinkg like that while your trump says stupid shit every 4 hours
Don’t be so one sided. I was like you too, I supported Bernie. I realized how wrong he is
sarge, bernie is the real way to make america great
Trump is good
sarge no he isnt
No, Bernie is how I will die
wrong
Universal Healthcare means I pay 62% more in taxes
nice TV fox news reaction
Universal Healthcare means I will make less when I become a doctor some day
sarge loves fake news
@sarge UHC does not raise your tax rates by 62%
sarge can look a dying child in the face and say, sorry you are too poor to live!!
You drown yourself into it. Look how pathetic you are. Germany do you not see that people on your side of politics are pathetic losers that won’t get anywhere in life?
sarge america will get UHC no matter what you do
UHC does, our current taxes would only pay 1/3rds for universal healthcare. Where do we get 2 more trillion dollars? Taxes.
Look at the facts, Middle class families in the UK do not pay 62% in taxes
Its a different country
You cannot compare small countries to bigger ones
sarge thats wrong, health care the way it is now will start costing even more
It doesn’t
yes it will
I’m healthy, I don’t have any problems and I’m not paying shit
The US would have a lot more money if we stopped doing unnecessary wars in the Middle East
sarge i havent payed money on healthcare for 10 years
Not really, we lose barely from that
i dont need it i heal on my own
By 2050 Iraq will have costed us 7 trillion dollars
Yeah
UHC will cost us much more
Iraq is a victory and now is fixed.
They are now a country that is progressing.
sarge money isnt an issue, when they spend 500 billion a year on bombs dropping and killing innocent civilians
That’s too much, and the war was based on a false assumption in the first place
Dude not really
We won it.
Saddam did not have weapons of mass destruction
sarge, im sure the corporations will pay for it, they owe us big time
If i was Saddam and i wanted to screw over a superpower that accused me of having WMDs i would remove them before being defeated.
Ok I agree that corporations like amazon should be taxed
They dont pay a dime
sarge then you disagree with donny the orange clown
I don't wanna pay taxes either.
Not really
But i got to.
@Make America Great Again prove that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction
Specialist shut the fuck up, you socialist retard. I can be republican and not agree with all views
sarge yes, actions speak louder than words, and trump gives them trillions of dollars in tax cuts
I am saying if i was Saddam thats what i would do.
You are literally braindead and just repeat “Orange man bad”
You have no IQ left.
sarge get a helmet, kid
You are so scripted
Dude get a brain
And Iraq isn’t really progressing, their country is still in shambles after the war
Trump gave my families business too in tax cuts
sarge just ignores all crimes commited by his goddess donny the clown
It is their GDP is growing and if you talk to people who have been there recently its actually nice.
And we saved over 10,000
The USA has won Iraq took us awhile but we did it.
He has committed anything. You believe in the bait the media gives you
Thats sad
To be fair we had a lot of European support as well
Mueller report- nothing
sarge, the democrats created 400 million jobs this year!!
So thanks Germany!
Thats impossible
No collusion, No obstruction
sarge its true, the honest to gods truth
America doesnt even have 400 million people
You just said fake shit
@sarge so what about when Obama did over 10 small business tax cuts during his first term? Are you gonna give him credit for that?
sarge you are dumb
He had to he was dealing with an economic crisis.
Yes I do give him credit. I dont agree with some of the other stuff he did
sarge the democrats created 500 trillion jobs last year
Just because you’re a democrat doesnt mean you have to dislike all of trumps things
I liked some of obamas
donald stopped 200 billion jobs from being created this week
Here’s my position on taxes, i like Middle and lower class tax cuts, but I don’t like tax cuts for the rich
How do you create 500 trillion jobs when the earth doesn't even have that many people?
Same but the rich should be taxed to hell either
@Make America Great Again Hes being braindead just ignore that useless corpse
sarge, you have no clue about reality, your critical thinking skills are severely lacking
The rich should be taxed reasonably, that’s just my opinion
MAGA do some thinking bud
Yes but if they are taxed more they will leave the US
Even if you include A.I. of all of earth there still isn't that many jobs.
i know it hurts but try!!
And the machines too.
And small business tax cuts are a good thing
I am thinking i am thinking you are trolling me.
you are thining small scale
Thats how Sweden lost a lot of their rich people
Yeah Trumps tax cuts have been helping us Germany.
sarge sweden hasnt lost any rich people!!
We should be encouraging more small businesses to rise up and create fair competition
They have
Read something called history during the 20th century
MAGA no they arent, thats insane, trickle down economics are a joke
They have, my family saved money
wrong!!
I disagree with the Bush and Trump tax cuts because they cut taxes on the rich way too much
I have gotten a tax cut i am not super wealthy.
And Bush kind of destroyed the economy as well
kind of?
It takes more than one person to do that.
If you tax the rich you’ll piss them off. Rich people makes the economy boom as well
And the rich can leave.
They have the money to avoid the taxes and will.
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