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2018-05-31 05:40:52 UTC

Jesus is Lord

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2018-05-31 20:47:51 UTC

But I aint no sheep

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2018-06-01 00:23:28 UTC

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2018-06-01 04:01:15 UTC

2018-06-01 04:05:16 UTC

wow checkmate i guess we lose

2018-06-01 06:49:14 UTC

Why are they always fat

2018-06-01 06:52:25 UTC

Because if god existed he wouldnt make people fat

2018-06-01 06:52:34 UTC


2018-06-01 06:59:37 UTC

I wonder if that guy speaks cuckinese

2018-06-01 07:01:30 UTC

*fedora tipping intensifies*

2018-06-01 07:07:00 UTC

most likely

2018-06-01 13:55:50 UTC

Whatever. I moved all the Trump books to the religious section

2018-06-01 13:56:21 UTC

They didn't have a section for fanfiction, or all the Qurans would be there

2018-06-01 14:19:46 UTC

Such as the Bible 😝

2018-06-01 19:50:57 UTC


It took years but I finally delivered the final redpill to a buddy of mine who was an atheist, and he just told me hes been getting it religion over the last couple months and is a believer now

2018-06-01 19:51:02 UTC

Im actually so happy rn

2018-06-01 19:51:11 UTC

getting into*

2018-06-01 20:44:16 UTC

Understandable. I've been in the church basically my whole life. The idea of Non-belief is fairly foreign to me.

2018-06-01 20:44:38 UTC

Yeah Im going to be there for him to help guide him, I cant imagine it would be particularly easy to get into mid-life. I was born and raised catholic, even went to catholic school up until 8th grade so that made it easy for me. I had plenty of time to learn about it

2018-06-01 20:44:54 UTC

The best thing I can suggest is just start by reading the bible & church history

2018-06-01 20:45:45 UTC

I'd recommend reading intelligent apologetics literature. Stuff that uses science to back up claims in the Bible. It's never too late to convert/learn about Christianity.

2018-06-01 20:47:06 UTC

One source I personally enjoy reading is

2018-06-01 20:47:33 UTC

You're supposed to be able to ask them for their very technical documents if you're interested.

2018-06-01 20:47:57 UTC

Like the experiments that back up the claims.

2018-06-01 20:48:04 UTC

read a book about the crusades, too. Im reading Templars by dan jones right now. As devout as I am reading about the crusades inspires me and strengthens my yearning to serve the Lord

2018-06-01 20:48:12 UTC

I'm out. Later and good luck!

2018-06-02 00:27:46 UTC

Salamalaikum ma bruddas

2018-06-02 01:16:02 UTC

2018-06-02 01:16:13 UTC

Right to bear arms is in the Bible

2018-06-02 01:20:46 UTC

I really think that everyone kind of has an "irreligious" stage in their life where they "hate" religion, but they eventually come back to it once they realize their points against it were based on ignorance.

2018-06-02 02:34:14 UTC

not everyone

2018-06-02 04:03:55 UTC

I became Christian after meeting people that could talk intelligently about it and didn’t mind criticism.

2018-06-02 06:53:21 UTC

2018-06-02 06:53:54 UTC

Jew even lift bro

2018-06-03 05:56:17 UTC

Yeah! And i end the workout with a can of mountain jew

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2018-06-04 11:26:27 UTC

@Victus Shmmidtt

We can move it here as you said.

2018-06-04 11:27:39 UTC


2018-06-04 11:32:54 UTC

Where do we start?

2018-06-04 11:37:07 UTC

My issues with Catholicism are as follows:
>The Pope is infallible (And yes I know this belief varys among Catholics)
>The Worship of Mary as the Queen of Heaven and co-redeemer.
>Having a Priest Absolve your sin, because he is a man and not God.
>The exists of pergatory and the ability to "pray" your dead loved ones out of it by going to a priest and paying him to do it.
>Allowment of indulgences in exchange for monetary compensation.
>And praying to the statues of Jesus and Mary.

Mt issues with Protestant:
>Not zealous
>A lot of progressivism (depends on the church)
>A lack of dedication to the church.

2018-06-04 11:37:28 UTC
2018-06-04 11:38:04 UTC

As of now, I'm actually a Roman Catholic, but back at where I live, the Priests,etc. are outright horrendous, following the wrong agenda even.

2018-06-04 11:39:39 UTC

Speaking of which, even I've been there with the issues with Catholicism, but I've seen how Protestants, atleast alot of them have varying beliefs, watching a good bunch of them on Youtube,etc. was enough to make me say: "Fuck it, I'm out of here."

2018-06-04 11:43:53 UTC

You still there?

2018-06-04 11:48:27 UTC

Why are you even religious?

2018-06-04 11:48:35 UTC

Believe in yourselves, not God

2018-06-04 11:49:11 UTC

I'm still here @Yakumo Fukase

2018-06-04 11:49:36 UTC

Actually, I almost fell for being Agnostic.

2018-06-04 11:49:44 UTC

Even though I'm 16 LUL.

2018-06-04 11:50:06 UTC

I'm about to not be though because I'm about to walk on campus and I won't be able to respond.

2018-06-04 11:51:15 UTC

So say what you want to and Ill respond later.

2018-06-04 11:51:58 UTC

Alright, have fun.

2018-06-04 11:58:49 UTC

All in all, I once thought there was something wrong with the Catholic Church, whatnot with the doctrines and such [some of it.], couple it up with the fact of some peeps in the Catholic Church being wolves in sheeps clothing. However Protestantism as I saw was way worse off for me, they tend to have too different beliefs for each individual leading to dissonances in my mind. When I checked what's really the issue, I mean, God would only forbid something if it will cause something bad to happen to me like a sickness or sort right? [Too much drinking,smoking,etc.], but these "Individualists", with their absurd beliefs lead me to think there's not gonna be any solid foundation for me.

2018-06-04 15:08:53 UTC

Wow Victus... I feel the same as you do above. The modern Protestant Church does seem to suffer from progressivism which I feel causes the other 2 problems.

2018-06-04 15:17:33 UTC

I think the church would come back if parents acted as parents and taught their children the Bible. Instead we have this faulty thinking that the public school will teach our kids, or that an hour at church is enough for our kids to learn the Bible.

2018-06-04 15:23:34 UTC

There also needs to be more educated people in the church. There isn’t enough apologetics. We’re called to be able to defend the Bible, but it seems few people can even do that with basic Christian concepts.

2018-06-04 17:37:32 UTC

@Yakumo Fukase I understand your position. I think most people would have a better outlook on Protestantism if there weren't so many sects. The primary issue being most of those sects such as Mormons, Jehovah's witness, unitarian universalist, etc, which are all complete heresy, get lumped in with the rest of Protestants and the rest of us don't even consider them to be even Christian.

@Andrules The church preached the doctrine of easy believism from the 1960s to the 1980s and poisoned multiple generations. They believe that all you do is sit in a pew on Sunday and say you are a Christian and that is what makes you saved from sin. They also preached a false doctrine that Christianity is based on emotions and how you feel. Which is entirely untrue. God never said he was supposrd to make you happy and remove all struggles from your life, he said the opposite. He said that taking this path will be hard and you will be persecuted and tempted the entire way. Being a Christian is not acting like that rest of the world. Going with the flow is the wrong path. As a Christian you are to break from the normal flow of the world and follow God's path and you must strive continuously to stay on it.

2018-06-04 19:00:33 UTC

That’s actually why my parents switched churches when I was growing up. Started out in a United Methodist, moved to independent baptist. The UM just went all hippy bullshit. Be kind and happy, that’s all you need to go to heaven and God to love you. The Baptist Church actually taught me the right way. Which is what you listed out.

2018-06-04 23:56:42 UTC


2018-06-04 23:56:47 UTC

2018-06-04 23:56:51 UTC

Commies btfo

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2018-06-05 01:10:30 UTC

There is one Atheist Youtuber that I have come to hate with a passion... Darkmatter2525

2018-06-05 01:10:54 UTC

atheists in general are really annoying

2018-06-05 01:14:49 UTC

I personally believe Cult of Dusty hits the most obnoxious factor for me.

2018-06-05 01:18:11 UTC

No, Darkmatter2525 is worse.

2018-06-05 01:18:53 UTC

He's the guy who does those terribly-animated shorts that essentially sets up strawman arguments to try to make "all" Christians look bad and it's almost exclusively against Christians.

2018-06-05 01:19:02 UTC

Wait what?

2018-06-05 01:20:50 UTC

First glance I think I'm gonna hurl.

2018-06-05 01:30:32 UTC

Honestly, whenever anyone askes "If God exists, who created God?" misses the entire point.

2018-06-05 01:34:32 UTC

What religion concerns itself with is how God created humanity and everything around us. As Christianity points out, God is our father and we - humanity and all things - are His children.

2018-06-05 01:34:57 UTC

In turn, it makes the question "who created God" pretty irrelevant.

2018-06-05 01:41:47 UTC

That question is outright cringe tbh.

2018-06-05 01:46:09 UTC

WhO cReAtEd GoD?

2018-06-05 02:02:31 UTC

when people say "who created God", they show their immense ignorance on the concept of God, and prove they cannot understand that God is a concept beyond human comprehension.

2018-06-05 02:08:47 UTC

They most likely aren't smart to begin with as well.

2018-06-05 02:10:30 UTC

atheists, either through ignorance or intention, misconstrue the concept of demiurge for God

2018-06-05 02:11:40 UTC

The Demiurge eh...

2018-06-05 02:13:07 UTC

a demiurge is a creator being that may have created the world, possibly the universe, but itself was created, and is not omnipotent like God

2018-06-05 02:13:31 UTC

God existed before existence

2018-06-05 02:18:42 UTC

by the way, in case you are misinterpreting what i am saying, i am not saying i believe in a demiurge -- i am merely describing what it is.

2018-06-05 02:28:57 UTC

Don't worry about it, known about the Demiurge and researched its concept ever since Persona 5

2018-06-05 02:29:25 UTC

If they mix up God for the Demiurge...

They really need to have their brains checked.

2018-06-05 02:56:15 UTC

They miss the word Transcendent

2018-06-05 02:58:30 UTC

Apparently something that transcends all human comprehension and logic and the existence itself is too hard for them to understand. Then again most atheists look at life through a narrow port hole which usually results in only them believing in what fits their arbitary echo chamber

2018-06-05 03:02:25 UTC

Hence why the doctrine of skepticism is self defeating because what is the point of being a smeptict if you are unwilling to be skeptical of your own skepticism and question why you do not believe.

2018-06-05 03:10:16 UTC


2018-06-05 03:11:01 UTC

and if they somehow think humans have achieved a point in which they can comprehend everything, they are incredibly wrong and arrogant

2018-06-05 04:54:27 UTC

I always thought when they ask who created god they were stupid for another reason. Its not as though creation of something superior isnt possible. Its like saying if Michael Jackson is the greatest entertainer ever who made him? His father.

2018-06-05 04:56:57 UTC

Then there could also be a "Tenchi Muyo" type situation where God created us to try and figure out if any thing exists beyond itself by seeing if creations can bridge the gap.

2018-06-05 04:58:30 UTC

Just because something is tanscedant by our knowledge doesnt mean there arent more or higher versions of it.

2018-06-05 05:02:06 UTC

However, in all of those cases, it means very little and doesn't diminish from the fact that God created the entirety of what we call "everything."

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