The sacrifice in Job 1:5 is of the patriarchal "rite" which is pre-Mosaic

Same for the daughters' inheritances in Job 42:15

And the measurement of his wealth in flocks instead of money, Job 42:12

keep in mind that in oral cultures the core details of a story are preserved very well, but the secondary details tend to fluctuate.

And for him to live 200 or so years, this happened for some time after the flood but not by the time of Moses

So I'd put him pre-Abraham

But not by much

it's reasonable to assume that the secondary details of the story changed over the possible millenniums. but here we ask, is it unreasonable to say that is Job were a big part of the story of the bible, surely he would have been mentioned in the details of Genesis?

or even exodus?

There's a lot of stuff left out, or even stuff included that may seem strange

Most people don't notice it

I'm Catholic so this may seem like a biased perspective but there's a ton of references to deuterocanonical books (rejected by Protestants). But to be fair there are actually Biblical references to books rejected by all Christians, and even books entirely lost forever.

the problem I've had with Genesis is that in oral cultures legendary details tend to seep in over the generations (usually after 120-130 years), so when the bible says "days" in genesis, I've never taken it to mean literal days. the new testament I've taken much more literally since the people who were in the events were still alive as the books were written down, in some cases as little as five years after the death of christ

And other books that we may not know what it refers to; could be books we still have, some we don't

Well I have to rely a bit on the supernatural for this; God's word isn't gonna be lost.

you don't have to for god's word. the bible states it clearly that everything that can decay into nothing will before even the slightest word of god is gone

By supernatural I mean, God, above the natural and observable

for me, it isn't just the bible that is the word of god but the laws of the universe he wrote to permit the very existance of life

the code in my DNA is the word of god, recordable but so far uncrackable

Joshua 10:13 refers to the Book of the Just Man. Which is lost.

the book of chronicles refers to a book which recorded all the deeds of the kings of Israel

that one is gone too

Numbers 21:14-15 refers to the Book of the Wars of the Lord

the only way these can be reconciled is if they aren't physical books

The Just Man is sometimes called Jasher

as in they are books recorded by god but not for man

Well I believe in them being physical books, that are lost, but aren't necessarily the word of God

then that is why they are lost to time

But were obviously of some cultural importance

And it is possible they aren't lost, we just haven't rediscovered them

many books head down the river of time, but not all of them survive the rapids of history. Very few from that time survive into the present day unless they've held part of or the absolute truth

The Art of War is a good non-biblical example I can give

Gospel of Judas (noncanonical of course) was thought lost until 2006

maybe the Vatican has all the missing books.

wouldn't be surprised at all if they did

The archives are a lot less exciting than people think

Probably just keeping up an illusion for tourism but, it is possible to get in there with scholarly credentials

I'm going to head off for sleep.

Goodnight bro

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^literally me when i was a liberal and hearing a conservative podcast and agreeing with most of the points after being stuck in an echo chamber known as the left wing

Tbh it's hard to be a liberal

you need to be ignorant as fuck when you have access to net

Feels over facts

The hypocrisy of it gets to you eventually

Their reality is just broken

Wait... MY MONEY is being used for what?

I dont like that.

I just thought it was a good idea

But no if I'm paying for it I dont like that

And that's how everyone basically becomes conservative

Well, to become a conservative you also can do it by reading history

And not the "Revised" bullshit they try to push over now

That's why more women are leftist

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Helicopters are self aware now

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inb4 franco-austrian empire removes kebbb

Mmm Italy will get help

Italy has the scions of Mussolini.

his own flesh and blood.

just as long as they don't try to repeat the restoration of Rome, they'll do fine.

Well last time, we almost throwed all the italian army into the sea

fucking hitler ruined everything though 😦

at the time, I see a lot of paralels of my own country with Italy.
Both were primarily agrarian countries for example

and as default, such countries are incapable of waging proper war.

We are agrarian too

the socialists though have devalued our trades sadly though, we are capable to make everything but they import everything and add massive taxes to our agricultural

and another flaw with Mussolinis neo-Rome idea was the emergence of the nation state idea, people telling imperialists to fuck off and developing countries based on a single ethnos.

The thing with Mussolini is, that he didn't won the people over but forced himself on power

half his lime was in socialistic movements

If hitler wouldn't fuck us over with the bulgarians we would have hanged that bastard in Rome

Juzef Pilsudski had an idea to remake the Litvo-Polak commonwealth into a federal state.

Benito should've focused on strenghtening Italy as a whole, flipping off the rest, and giving the roman reconquest a permanent shelving.

And allow Mori to do his fucking thing in exterminating mafia.

Well, we wanted to stay neutral up to the point Mussolini send an ultimatum and destroyed one of our ships in a holiday

We don't have problem with italians but they have backstabbed us a lot in the past, and if the war was only between us rome would have burned that time

from the little bits I know, Italy's failed attempt at subjugating Greece was basically it's afghanistan.

We conquered all the albania when the war fired up

almost throwed all the italian army in the sea

we don't even had a mechanized army yet

It was pretty much jackasses with rifles who knew their land like their hands. And also, italian generals insisted on using obsolete tactics.

that's the TL;DR version

and the thing is about such warfare, without keen cooperation it is impossible for the invader to win.

Greek army wasn't jackasses though

I meant that in a good way.

Their orders were clear and sound, Don't leave the line not even for an inch. Everyone fought like their last days because they knew what would happen if the enemy reached Greece

Kinda like finns in that regard.

although those dudes are a whole other league of brave.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hill_731