Like

No one expects after they die as a nation leader

Tito didn't plan on crazy people blowing up all the infrastructure

For their country to do the exact opposite you set them up for

Ikr

Wars only made the debt worst

All that stuff

exactly

People could have been educated

Going to jobs

And paying off the debt easy

It worked in PRC

boosted the GDP

But then

and GDP per Capita

and HDI

*Sigh*

and lowered the Gini

Also eastern europe is not very rich and developed, or was rather

Im not gonna get into the fall

and freed the women

Its too controversial

>implying yugoslavia is in eastern europe

nope

and the Tibetan serfs from their theocratic masters

If they used the same system in an already developed country, it would have worked far better

And hurts too much

Maoism would have worked

@Vic Chong what is your opinion on the Uyghurs

if Mao only took biology

Maoism killed 60 milion people

Coco-Chan can I comment

Im not gonna start an arguement but

When we say hitler or stalin or mao killed these many people for this or that

You have to remember the chinese civil war was going on for a long time

The Uyghurs should be assimilated by the Zhong Hua Minzu

And stalin's kill count

Most of that starving population wasnt because communism was bad

How many people were Stalin or Mao actually trying to kill

Most of it was for russification

The number of dead people is not that important

Hitler ordered 11 million deaths

Stalin wanted ethnic ukrainians to die in order to replace them with ethnic russians

They count deaths caused by natural problems

So in a HINT HINT worst case scenario USSR splinters

Like leaders being actually retarded

stalin did the same with chechens

and yakuts

And regions become free

The ethnic russians in those regions will want reunification

China should just reunify

I want the old China back

Yeah it was mostly from natural problems, like shortages and shit, government mismanagement, ect.

Stalin was a genious planning out how to help russia in the long run

when people were more equal

And for the most part was not intentional genocide

under the Old Empire

We see russification effects in ukraine today

>china should just reunify
nigga china has never been bigger

like the Great Han and the Great Tang

And quite frankly russia needs the land to survive

If you cross from belarus

I think russia is pretty much dead

at this point

And walk to moscow

stop being queers you queers

Its just open plains

@Deleted User

Our Empire used to stretch from Central Asia to Korea

get over here

fascist

Tactically russia is fucked in conventional war

now its just pathetic

I'd hate to say it

But alot of what horrible things he did

Was justified for the survival of russia

In immediate future and far out one

By the way, if you haven't joined my server yet, I'll pass a link here: https://discord.gg/E2aBdy

Putin should be cleaning his coffin for that shit

Was Tito a Slovene or a Croat? The eternal question

@olev Was Venezuela even socialist, or just social-democratic like Scandinavia? I know for instance Chavez started initially as a democratic socialist, in lines of Orwell.

Seems to be a thing that demsocs turns sozi according to leftypol

not important

yugoslavs are all the same people anyway

@Cocochan Kek that reminds me the loans we took under communism during Gierek for similar stuff, and I think Ceausescu was heavily indebted, but at least he paid off his debts (unlike Greece)

Still was a small thing compared to the heavy debt our governments after communism have collected ironically enough

I would know the answer

Venezuela is 70% private

To that question

But coco-chan is right

I'm not exactly sure how the system works in Venezuela

No matter what ethnicity

They are all Yugoslavian

lol phenian

They were all together

But yeah, probably a really fucked version of social democracy

It shouldnt matter about the race

Venezuela is just a failure

Even religion

I fucking hate seeker news

It spreads lies

And child friendly like stuff

They talk as if they know it all and these are true facts

But they know nothing

They dont backup their claims or give true evidence

Never explain why these people dont like the other

Sure they had a few wars the serbs and croats

Whether they liked it or not

But you have to say WHY they had to conflicts

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who here hates ANTIFA?

I think they're pretty retarded

subhumans

they are on the same level as neo nazis and white supremacist

also wtf are seeker news

lol I've met antifa ppl

They're very angry all the tim

They are displaying a bad image for the far left

And extremely unpleasant

But it's not like the revolutionary left could even do anything in the west

They're what makes people I knew go far right and be like

"Le niggers and joos are the cause of all our problems XDDDDD"

well put xanadu

also

''I wont be tricked by this le western leftist propaganda xDDDDD''

I used to be there as well until I woke up and was like wow this is dumb

u were in ANTIFA?

No

stormfag

oh

where are you from?

Florida

german descent?

or anglo

Beware the (((ANGLO)))
I'm a mixed bag of shit mainly french and German

lol im also a mixed bag of shit

Most amerifats are

Socialism is the real redpill

I haven't fully committed to any one thing but I'm leaning towards mutualism but I have to read more lol. I also realized that most people don't realize what socialism even is because they think it's "everyone equal, big taxes, and government do everything" or something

xanadu I think most people are the same

in every european country

Regarding the socialism being high taxes thing @Your Favorite Martian =3

It's funny because in Rojava, which is mostly socialist, there are no taxes

Woah really? Interesting. How much of the private property there is?

I've seen anarchists legit defending taxation before, like wtf

the left is a dying breed

MAGA

ha ha funni

Epik funne kekistan maga leftist "democrats" fukin owned helicopter

they are tho

**DABS**

look at me, im practically adolf hitler over here

Nah

you're more like

like

Merkel

>I come to this server

leftists are retarded

The server lives again

Evidence?

in the trash communist opinions go

Why so?

>leftist are retarded

O P I N I O N D I S C A R D E D

I am centrist

Do you have any facts that support your conclusion?

centrist masterrace

there are to many examples

fam

brainlets gtfo

*too

the left is a dying breed

of bluepilled retards

>a right winger talking about bluepill

quite ironic isnt it

the left should die

the radical that is

isn't this supposed to be a communist server

no

this is a leftist server

theres a huge difference

lol

well

kys

Please give me one

leftist piece of shit

praise kek

I hate ANTIFA also for example

You say that there are many, but where is one

kekahu akabaru

and I mean actual Communism

not simply crazy hippies

I hate Macedons even more

tbqh

kek

you people are all snakes

using ideological divides

to backstab each other

thats what ur doing m8

Macedonians are cool

how

Greece is Macedonia

Bulgaria is Macedonia

@Vic Chong I'm Marxist-Leninist if that matters.

anarchists, social liberals, social dems, progressivists, ecologists, communists, socialists, maoists, leninists, stalinists, marxists

want more?

What *makes* them bad?

@Vic Chong Albania true macedonian territory.

Macedonia is Serbia,Bulgaria is Macedonia,therefore Bulgaria is Serbia

heh

Is it their name?

all of them are snakes who backstab eachother with ideological divides

So

sectarianism

the left is an internal suicide

pepesfortrump please get out you sad sad brainlet

of any history

and culture

an entire identity wiped away

in favor of internationalism

and globalism

NIGGA

LISTEN

Globalism is right-wing

stop being left wing or right wing

We built the best wall

be centrist

globalism? right-wing? the only globalists i see here are leftists

Shut up

THATS IT

Im back

the entire spectrum is walled by globalists and nationalists

Internationalism is different from modern globalism

Whats up

the lines are marked

?

Internationalism is actually this international workers' solidarity thing

The only instances of leftism that I can consider successful are north korea and cuba, but north korea is only staying alive from the support of the chinese, and cuba has isolated itself for many decades, but is now falling to capitalism, so I would call it semi successful.

you are not worth my time

with the idea that everyone should have the same kind of socialist type government

Uhhh

Salt?

it's funny how you can call such failing countries

successful

Cuba is actually okay

Aaaaah

in cuba, doctors are payed the same as taxi drivers

I see

and