I would

yeah

No.

Because Im alt lit

if it meant he could save the world

he would

leaning

It serves to purpose to me to do that.

wouldn't you?

I do not reject murdering infants on a moral basis.

because the morality of murdering the infant is contextual

Who wouldnt kill a baby in order to save the world?

exactly

Thats called morals

pretty much no one

I certainly wouldn’t, unless it’s foretold to be like Stalin 2.0 or some shit.

exactly

Nigga

you would kill a baby to save the world

I'd kill the baby until there was nothing left

or do what is saving the world in your eyes

<:GWskarzzLUL:396058315186110465>

Myep.

morality is real

it's just not external

Nah.

it all depends on how you were raised and your genetics

these things determine what you believe to be good and bad

and that stands on top of every last second of human evolution

I'd feel horrible killing the baby of course

If I cannot hold it, if I cannot see it, if I cannot feel it, and if it does not have any physical impact, then I do not consider it real.

you cannot deny that

but I still would obviously

but what the fuck

objectivists permanently trying not to be btfo

what context is there to it?

I am not an objectivist.

I would never kill a baby

Ayn Rand is a doodoo head.

or anyone because I simply dont have to

not objectivists

uhhh

what is it called

"If I cannot hold it, if I cannot see it, if I cannot feel it, and if it does not have any physical impact, then I do not consider it real."

this shit

if I had no choice and it was the only way to save the world and its going to die well I dont really have a choice

there's a word for this line of thinking

i feel like

I'd still would have trouble sleeping at night though

You're stumbling over yourself.

yeah i am

Do I reject Empathy or Love?

Of course not.

definitions for ideologies always trip me up

empathy and love are conscious explanations for morals

No, they are not.

Then you dont reject morals

lul

They are physical things that exist in our head.

which are a subconscious evolutionary trait

Chemical reactions.

yeah

wewoo

i too am talking about chemical reactions

Morality just tells us what to do.

It's not real.

morality is a social construct that is founded on our instinctive desire to not die

You're just special pleading,

which is what all social constructs are for really

You're not actually making an argument.

yeah i am

This is all fallacious.

you just keep interrupting me

Finish your sentences then.

okay

so

This is text.

Just type it all out.

Muh communism

Stirner said it best.

Morals are more like feelings

not demands lol

if I kill someone I'd feel horrible because of my morals

empathy basically makes up alot of morals

Anyone want to establish a democratic workplace and communicate with other workplaces with me ?

that's why a lot of psychos kill because they lack empathy

I've studied this shit dude

No you haven't

Lul

Yes I have

Delusion

ಠ‿ಠ)┘

Yes you're delusional ik

Lul

What is that pubg?

Mobile lol

> can't see

Pubg on mobile?

Lol yes

i can’t sleep i feel the reactionary ideology coming from this chat

Lol

@seafer on his phone Is probably typing the best fucking argument in the world, holy shit.

> out of touch

@yung no

Lol

@yung Dont breathe

Morality is a word to describe a basic list of rules on how to act around people. Really fucking basic. It's an extension of humans instinctive cooperative nature. Basically your subconscious brain wants to not die so it says "cooperate with other people to accomplish survival" and the way you do that is by acting nice to them. Morals are the very core of nice acts. Doing things for people like holding doors open or lifting heavy objects and avoiding doing things to people like attacking them or murdering members of their tribe. These are all examples of morals. What I think you're arguing against is standards. Standards are the societal rules that we follow which are based off of the morals like dont kill people. For example, if morality says murder is bad, society says murder is bad as well. But in addition to that it also looks down upon threats of murder and seemingly murderous acts.

okay there you go

Trump is daddy

@Mr. E#2794 le epic meme

Alright guys ttyl gonna get more chicken dinners

@yung Haha XD

@ᵈˢʳ✪ Lucky

I love chicken

Im white af but Im black on the inside

Nope, @seafer on his phone did not make a good argument. It was just more special pleading.

define special pleading

Your mome XD

i dont know what that means

Ignoring facts that go against your idealogy.

hmmm

You call all this morality, but it is simply empathy.

then present the facts im ignoring

Morality, is what people make of it.

empathy

spooky shit

alright

You cannot say empathy is morality.

Judging by my analysis humans aren't entirely factual or intellectual

Morality is just a bias.

we're more strategic

which is the point of morals

hmmm

we’re more paraplegic

If we only cared about facts and not ever morals we wouldn't be empathetic and we'd be more or less psychopaths

empathy says survive by cooperation, standards say hold the door and dont be rude, so what does morality say?

To each person, something different.

gay ass server bye 🅱️

Cooperation these days ew

@yung what

We keep talking psychopaths, what if to them it is morally acceptable to kill children?

>against cooperating with people towards a better life

okay friend

It says listen to what's natural and good for your species and self

Mothers often drown their children to get them to heaven.

whoa

To them, it was totally morally acceptable.

wait right there

*waits*

That's not basic morals that's called mental illness though

Just kidding.

was it morally acceptable or acceptable by societal standards

see you all in hell or in communism

Stfu yung

oh wait here we go

i can make a distinction here

You're asking this, but it means nothing.

You're just dancing around the issue.

No it means a lot

You're not giving an answer.

i don't even know the issue

r/ nihilism

im just trying to define morality

Capitalism
Economic cooperation
Nope

You're never going to define it.

Yep

you said everyone has a definition for morality

Kant tried, and all it came down to was "Do the things you ought to do."

And yeah he just did

but i don't have one

so i want to define it at the very least for myself

I say reject morality and humanism on its grounds.

My definition for morality is basically empathy and sympathy

without these two we'd be fucked as a species

But, you do whatever you want.

"do the things you ought to do"

that sounds like a good idea

this debate

shutup friend

arent you here from amfirst too

no lol

oop

i’m here from Rojava

Im sick of that face lol

He looks so smug

what’s amfirst

"I am smart ego"

http://hiddenlolcdn.com/i/232699.jpg

No I dont do whatever I want

Free will isn't real

@yung That's actually a carricature by Engels

Mr. Egoist <:bour:313709044957315082>

yes

@yung no you're not

@Ｋ▲ＩＳＥＲ Am I really an egoist?

lol

@buyXRBpls shut up pal

the free will debate is overrated if you ask me

**poe’s goddamn law**

obviously people have the ability to do whatever they want

like for example

Free will not real

set up complex government structures with monopolies on violence that coerce people into not doing whatever they want

or

Lil uzi vert said that

do what I want

I guess whenever we talk about philosophy, we gotta have Free Will vs Hard Determinism.

enlightenment figure

No matter what we do, it comes back to this.

@yung fuck u

creating complex arguments and debates to distract people from doing whatever they want or making them feel like they cant do whatever they want

Free will isnt real

Because everything is self-interest

L

@buyXRBpls thought u cared... now a nigga hurt

Found this pic with a nice bottom text

to me it all sounds like this: you can do whatever you want, but your subconscious wants you to survive so it changes your conscious wants to match that

Whenever it comes to free will vs hard determinism, I don't feel either side argues their point well.

i want to kill a bird

Same.

He looks like young dr strange

but that wont really help me in my life so instead im going to do the other things

@R O M S O C アナーキー no that is not real

I want to steal bikes from white people

because i want to do that more, not the things that will help me in my life but helping my life

Same.

which is the want shared by all men

helping themselves and helping others

I want to kill everyone on the planet

but you wont

yet I dont and cant

exactly

Then comrades, let us join The 4 pests campaign

Exactly

Jinz

jinx

fuck

get out of here romanian socialist

Death to The Sparrows

Helping others is self-interest so they help you

most times

@R O M S O C アナーキー

What @buyXRBpls

said

but then you have people who hand twenties to homeless people

mao lmao ay lmao