yes but i trust people with training and experience more than the people who tend to argue against it

plus, @Deleted User you ignored my point, why do you think pumping chems and name changes are effective? you are just appealing to authority not actually making the point

i didnt say it was effective

its just my choice and it doesnt effect you

@Deleted User you dont even know my experience either, its not medical, but not to brag, im quite qualified in my field

but its not medical so point stands

@Deleted User it does affect me, i live in california and i have to deal with people like you constantly

deal with people like me, oh no we are in your presence poor you

if she is to appear outwardly female and keeps it to herself.

@Deleted User no it doesnt, i could have easily focused on medicine and dominated that field like i dominate my current field. which is ironically more technical then medicine

@Deleted User yes, you guys are a disgrace

Then you don't have to "deal with her".

but you didnt so whats your point

i have medical experts that agree with my point of view

like saying "I COULDA BEEN GOOD AT IT" doesnt make your opinion in the feild valid

And there are plenty that disagree.

you are pretending that medical opinion is one sided on this issue

like medical experts over 65 named blanchard

this has strayed far from the original topic

@Deleted User im not saying it does, im saying im not the only one

But it's no where near a good number who propose that we refuse someone transitioning 100%.

I am not saying you are saying that either/

@Deleted User blanchards typology is extreemely accurate, sorry you despise that you fit perfectly into one of the two moulds

I don't intend to strawman.

lel k den

you do

thats not an argument

sure

how do you not?

how do i

since you know me so well

well are you either a homosexual trans that wants to attract straight males, or are you a heterosexual male that is sexually aroused by the thought of having a female body?

every trans person i have ever met fits in either of the two

lol

k den

yeah, you fit in one and you dont want to admit it

explain to me how you fit in neither

seriously thinking psychology is that simple wew

how do you not fit in either one?

like thats believing freudian psychology is effective

what do you guys think of blacklivesmatter

stop avoiding the question

no i transitioned for far more various reasons than either of those

black lives matter is a terrorist organization

freudian psychology is mostly a sham, the concept of the unconsious was probably the best addition to psychology that freud gave

dont fit into either sorry

such as?

how so?

you are just claiming it without detailing

i really doubt you

"Transitioning only to attract straight men"

its also a national humiliation for the west

RIGHT

yo, i see blm everywhere. i don't understand

@Deleted User thats what i thought, you are just avoiding answering since you know deep down that you fit the mould

i don't see them

cause the accusation is just so basic and retarded and i dont think i should have to explain my life story

THEY'RE EVERYWHERE

there are no blacks or white college girls in Taiwan

like to think that any ones psychological choices are that simple is just a lil dumb

Claims without evidence can be rejected wthout evidence.

again, avoiding the question, you could just as easily have explained how you deviate from blanchard typology. your failure to do so is further evidence that you fit right into one of the two typologies @Deleted User

but we can read news article

i dont, its just silly that you think generalizations are impossible @Deleted User

Oh, I actually am starting to really like Chopin.

makes me realize how stupid people can be

chopin is a good person

he facilitates great discussions

@Margaret they are useful idiots

paid for by corporate interests

**Chat dies due to evidenceless claims**

Also, BLM is the worst new left group out there.

im used to it

Both?

I can see getting used to that stuff.

i tend to kill conversations with understanding of these topics and a low bullshit tollerence

But BLM is just cancer.

no, not blm

you really think thats what happen

I'd say that they deserve to be gassed.

you constantly avoided my questions @Deleted User

your baseless accusation?

Should she explain her entire life just for yourself?

you could have showed me how much of an idiot i am by pointing out how you deviate from blanchards typology

but you decided to dodge

damn what y'all angry about

no, im not saying that is as simple as saying something that doesnt fit into the typology

lol, not angry, laughing at the failure of this conversation

i dunno i cant just say "see see myself as a female and cant imagine life any other way " and have you accept it as my reason for transition

like with out iving a life story so whats the point in like explaining it further

youll just say im lying to myself and it all fits into blanchard

We're laughing right back at you.

fair enough, i just really doubt it given how much you dodge. i know im not gonna get a straight answer from you because of your constant dodging

k

so ill just accept your claim at face value, since i know im not going to get anything better from you

k

i still think you are itentionally trying to derail the conversaiton but whatever

k

you seem angry

derail it from what?

being called out

na im ok

sure

called out for what?

its just seems you know you fit in one of the two branches of the typology and you just dont want to admit it because you want to preserve your special snowflake status

ive been on chans since 2005 trust me im use to assholes and people who find me disgusting

oh so you think that was calling me out

not an asshole, i just see through your games.

my games?

wew, chans, you are so special

ok

yeah, you completely avoided my questions, its pretty typical

i answered it and you didnt accept it

i know im on a chan server right now, but i really dislike 4chan and the others for the most part

like why i didnt answer it in first place

no, i took it on face value, i just know you dont like being generalized

i am just on leftyChan to make fun of Communists

my point was im use to hearing peoples crazy rants and vitrol so im not too bugged

sure, it happens on both sides

i could give you plenty of examples of rants and vitriol from transppl

okay

either way, its obvious you know which side of the typology you fall on, and you just dont want to admit it

im not asking for examples i dont doubt it im just saying ok

sure

uh how so?

damn ghost, you just got rekt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNZ30WxvQkk&list=RDMMDNZ30WxvQkk

how so?

you havent given any examples on how you deviate, you just gave a really vague "i just feel like a woman" answer

i mean cause i dont see the point in telling you my life story

you dont need to

thats not what im asking for

like i dont owe it to you

you dont

i dont want it either really

so you are just ranting at this point

lol, just as much as you

ranting usually invovles anger

hmm my answers have been fairly short and simple and in response to your vitriol

im sitting here in another discord chatting with my buds while im text chatting with you

ok

how is it vitriolic?

I think syntax isn't attempting to be hateful

i mean you have called me a liar and such

he is a true fanatic, just as I

im just pointing out you arent doing to well to differentiate yourself from the typology?

and believes in what he speaks.

i never called you a liar

like you said i was a liar and trying to hide things

and that i was called out and embarrassed

i didnt

you did

He feels as if he can't trust you.

That was what he said.

well, you do seem to be embarressed, yes

hmm how so

because you are giving very vague and simplistic answers, just like someone who has been caught with their hand in a cookie jar

uh?

whut

i just wanted a cookie..

you arent saying anything that grants more complex answers

i gave you a very open ended question, you failed on every account

anyway, this is getting meta

again, seems like more avoidance from my point of view

i answered and you said it wasnt good enough and i didnt answer originally cause i knew you were gonna say it wasnt good enough

like im damned if i do or dont

i never said it wasnt good enough, i acknowleged that i knew i wasnt gonna get anything better

not really, you could have been very specific in how you deviate from the typology, instead you just speak in vague generalities

you talk about what you did, not why you did

hmm you said i was trying to hide that i fit into one of those or that deep down i knew i did you implied i was being secretive

i just feel like a woman, because i feel like a woman

no, i just know how people act

so ya basically it wasnt good enough and it wouldnt be good enough unless you say the 20 page psyche eval, but you would probably say it was tainted by the psychologist liberal biases or some shit at that point

look, we've all been caught with our pants down.. its ok.. the best thing to do is admit it and not dig yourself into a deeper hole, to mix my metaphores

you cant just say im caught with my pants down and its so

not really, if you want to put a liberal bias is up to you

like this is strawmaning i think right

what you are doing

rather than actually proving a point you are strawmanning if im not confused

no, its like being caught with you pants down, and giving vague answers like "one thing led to another"

vague and general

ya strawmaning

not specific

im not strawmanning, its an analogy

ok well keep straw manning ill leave you to that

if i was strawmanning, you would actually have had to provide an argument to straw man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mAeJYk36Kg&index=2&list=RDMMDNZ30WxvQkk

im not gonna give you a life story sorry

if i want to take the least cheritable view of my position, the most you can say is that i am coloring the situation

there, im even making your argument for you

Syntax seems, otherwise, rather rational and calm.

look, you keep going back to that

I'm assuming you're a Christian Conseravtive? Cause that is the only group who can act in this way.

i never asked you for your life story, i asked you for how you deviate from the typology. this is basically the fifth time ive had to type that out. but i know you wont

either way, i know this wont go anywhere, so whatever

i have given up syntax sorry

just dont feel like this

its fine

just dont assume my ignorance off the bat, like you did

I never did

you are mistaken

....

im not gonna scroll up and quote you

i said i trust doctors more

*At least Syntax believes what he says*

Unlike some.

http://crimefeed.com/2015/05/florida-pediatric-dentist-accused-seriously-harming-children-years/

do you trust this guy?

i know im cherry picking a bit

Nope.

He needs some good gasin'.

oh strawmanning again lele like i dunno you just arent worth arguing with friendo

but still, just because they are a doctor doesnt mean they are trustworthy

omg

its not strawmanning, its cherry picking... get your fallacies straight

with a side of appeal to emotion noice

its not an appeal to emotion

im not appealing to your emotional response as the basis of my argument

seriously get your fallacies straight

Well, cherry picking is plenty ineffective.

And the fact that man tourtured children... It is sort of an emotional appeal.

im not saying, yes, your anger at this doctor is what makes him wrong. im saying he is wrong because of what he did

not really, im not appealing to the emotion of the people in the room, if i was then it would be an appeal to emotion

Fine, fine.

I'm gonna go and draw a cross flag or something.

schweet

Wait, I already have one.

http://piskel-imgstore-b.appspot.com/img/0b0c5468-3a7c-11e7-af96-0377b345c8d6.gif

i like it

Thanks! I made it in my computer aplication class while I had nothing else to do

also, iron, glad to see you are part of the cf discord 😃

😉

probably my fav youtuber

Eh, I don't watch too much of his stuff.

Sometimes, I feel, it gets too hateful.

ive probably seen everything he's ever released, lol

But his earlier stuff with tumblr gave me aids fo the sides.

nearly vomited a few times

Oh my, some of those people can be disgusting.

especially his last episode, with the mummification fetish

Oh my...

That' can't be a thing.

THAT CAN'T BE A THING

where he talks about the guy that got a cattle prod wired up to an outlet stuck up his ass and was cooked to death in a full body cast

it is, its very real

...

I don't know man.

yeah, i was shocked as well

so was he

>.<