Nuanced. *inhales own fart deeply* It's shit but I'll laugh when feminists get their way and they get forced into burkas and are beaten

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/18423685_1452889968083312_5469051683985233687_n.png?oh=72d2691a2eabd6edecc0913fb783e75b&oe=59B9254B 😂

@checkers Why do you think feminists love Islam so much?

Political Islam is a fascist ideology that regulates every aspect of life, and aims for complete world dominance.

"I want an apology and not a ceremony" --migrant woman said during the citizenship ceremony. She felt she had had to wait too long.

@Deleted User , third-wavers need the oppression of women to be relevant. Feminism yields a whole lot of money as people like Anita Sarkeesian show.

@Deleted User Because feminists are intersctionalists and LITERALLY everything that isn't a white cis male is opressed by white cis males

@Tenta What do you call that, liberal reformism?

That's what intersectionalism means. Everyone vs western man

Second-wavers like the German feminist Alice Schwarzer strongly oppose Islam and she often writes articles against Islam.

https://www.welt.de/debatte/kommentare/article157816570/Die-Burka-ist-ein-Leichentuch-fuer-Millionen-Frauen.html "the burka is a shroud for millions of women"

>second wavers
That's not a thing tbh. What positions would you hold that isn't already integrated into society?

The daily requests for Sharia based laws need to be fought back.

But you can't, das racis

Islam is a race, a glorious and fine race

Okay, this is getting old. It’s futile trying to discuss reasonably with a troll.

@checkers where did you learn about SJW so much?

Are you autistic?

@Tenta I'm clearly being facetious

I bet he is a former SJW who got kicked out.

@Tenta ☣#4733 you think he was too gay for them?

How does Marxists categorise feminism? Petty bourgeoisie?

All the marxists I've ever met were feminists, there's that

Modern "feminism": there are four teams but you fund only one team while claiming that all four teams will profit from it.

@Deleted User It can be petty bourgeois or a state propaganda or oligarchy propaganda. Feminism is a distraction for the class and Party.

Marx would get harassed for being a "class reductionist".

@Deleted User Feminists are useful for capitalists.

Any way, it's a little strange to me that so many people base their entire lives and their identity around the question of distribution of money. Lifes involves so many important things. Will we see a movement that aims to make everyone have equal amounts of sex? Entertainment?

The means of reproduction meme isn't that far off

Might as well be when you think about it

But instead of millions of followers it's just a joke. A joke like the economic counterpart

@Tenta "class reductionist" that is funny, because wouldn't class consciousness also dissolve 'gender' inequality? 'Divide and run' by the capitalists.

@Deleted User , exactly, that’s the point. Feminism and gender stuff should not be an issue at all.

I spent my early years of childhood during East German times where children weren’t separated by gender, and toys came in all colours, not this blue vs. pink crap. Women were working in all fields of society, plenty of female scientists, too.

I just saw a great leftist lecture on how to dismantle white privilege: by breeding half black children. Very thought provoking and enlightened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICBul4b_Iq4

The gender divide is a good marketing tool because now you can sell more stuff with marginal differences just by printing "for boys" or "for girls" on them.

@Tenta I think you just got baited finally

@Firefly , he doesn’t consider me a leftist anyway because I don’t buy into SJW propaganda. You are right, I should really give up.

I better go read some of the articles.

I recommend "It wasn't real communism" by Rich Kid

The 'degeneracy' which /pol/ always complains about I see is powered by the middle class, petite boureosie " Marxist theorists used the term petite bourgeoisie to identify the socio-economic stratum of the bourgeoisie" That quote explains a lot.

@Tenta Yes! Some of them are better than others. Hot topic of the recent is Scientific Centralism a new model of the Party.

@Firefly Where can I read about 'hot topics'?

@Deleted User peasantry, farmers, low-skilled merchants, all kinds of criminals and bandits = petite bourgeoisie

Don't know what to like about this class

@Deleted User here.

Oh, I stand corrected.

Easily manipulated class. Like in Ukraine

yuck those low classes. unlike us enlightened rich kids

Stalin tried hard to get rid of it

Now quite a few former Maidan supporters have begun waking up but now their country has been overtaken by US big money.

@Tenta ☣#4733 I've met people in USA who helped organize Maidan. They all live here now it seems

Leftist proclamation. 4chan still going strong. That must hurt a little

@checkers The problem with petites. They are in a privileged position to the proletariat. So they are the rich kids.

Proletariat instinctively hates them

But does not know the solution to them

@Firefly , Maidan had almost all of their servers in the USA and in Germany, and I already told you about the Ukrainian connection residing here. +

They already tried such a revolution in Belarus twice already but the police were vigilant and crushed them right away.

@Tenta ☣#4733 when I speak to Ukrainian nationalists now they're kinda looking down to the ground and are ashamed of what have happen. But they are still nationalist. Not the best learning abilities they have.

@Firefly , so they are finally realising they were puppets? 😮 I avoid Ukrainian nationalists as much as possible.

@Firefly Is democratic centralism structured with dialectics in mind; left vs right? In reality Marxism is neither left or right?

@Tenta Yeh, most hard core nationalist intelligentsia is really ashamed. One guy almost cried in front of me.

Wow! 😮

I’m really speechless, seems they are smarter than expected.

When I inspect groups like the Right Sector on both Facebook and VK, all I see is stupid nationalism.

@Deleted User We think now that democracy is far from being the best tool. I think we shall use both authority and democracy. Democratic centralism is not letting us use the whole power of authority. Makes us weaker. But it is useful at times.

@Tenta Most of people protesting already left the country and gave up.

@Firefly Who is 'We', do you mean this discord?

Many got drugged by drugs in free food and drinks.

Nationalist internet groups is CIA. CIA is still there

I told you about my friend from the Ukraine who, naturally, has much more insight.

@Firefly This is correct about CIA. Nationalists vs Islamic threat is the new 'Strategy of Tension'.

@Deleted User Sometimes I say we. Just a habit from childhood.

What those nationalists don’t realise is that Russia gifted almost the entire territory the Ukraine has now.

They let themselves get divided by the tiny rich elite.

@Tenta Ukraine would be a great country to start Revolution in. But we do not have the Party.

Tenta could help us in it

But is so busy and depressed

Can't do German channel

Fun fact: German neo Nazis are heavily divided on Ukraine, too. One faction supports the right-wingers, some even fight in their paramilitary forces while the other faction supports Putin, and some of them even want Putin to annex Germany to get freed from US influence.

Parts of the German left also want Putin to annex Germany, for the very same reason.

This is yet another example why "left" and "right" as political terms have become obsolete.

I’d actually not be against. He once promised he’d keep most of the laws intact, just like an autonomous region.

@Tenta Self-determination principle gave us a lot of political capital indeed. Left-wing can fight for nation. Nation can fight for Left-wing. It could be a union.

@Tenta CIA is very good at infiltrating and radicalising groups that fit the profile of opportunity, as an excuse to enforce their interests in the region sold as 'benevolent response'.

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16640819_1669388520028415_4647298383317169784_n.png?oh=3a41410ca19dfd84a6dd4e80a1bceaaf&oe=59BEF5B4 Germany is nearly at the bottom.

https://www.thelocal.de/20160802/hundreds-seek-to-leave-the-german-army-bundeswehr

To replenish the ranks, Germany again resorts to using child soldiers: https://www.thelocal.de/20161110/german-army-has-record-number-of-underage-soldiers

The German military has an incredibly low standing within the population. Once a NATO representative even expressed his disgust because Germans aren’t interested in fighting their wars.

@Tenta such is life of a puppet nation that lost the war.

I’m glad that more and more people start realising it.

Some anti-imperialist and self-deterministic propaganda would do.

NATO is an arms trafficking racket.

Welcome to /leftypol/ a low-moderation channel. Feel yourself free here.

We've got a new German channel. @Tenta will be its lead.

@everyone

Congratulations to Tenta! I wish him to grow together with the channel.

Thanks! ❤ Naturally, most German speakers are currently not available. It’s 8:45am here.

As I understand at this moment Germans become more polarized in views and some radicalize. That is great news for us.