I didn't say it was, in fact Kant explains why.

Don't make me use the line.

Neither do I.

But it cured me of religion.

>intellectualism

thats gay

Huh? How do you go from Kant to consquentialism? Right and wrong is highly problematic.

muh logical arguments

jokes on you the only anime I've ever watches is the simpsons

The fuck did I just read. I come back and the first thing I see is a gayfemboi with his anime avatar ridiculing the act of making an argument based on logic.

lol

🤔

>implying arguments are anything but mental masturbation

So what if they are?

You're here aren't you?

Sorry, but ethics is really flimsy in its basis. I would love to see how you build your consequential argument, especially, I assume how you apply it to politics. Since I've done all the work so far, now it's your turn.

honestly debates are won in the crowd, a shitty emotional argument easily beats a rational argument, why bother

Muh cynicism

Look at you

You're just above it all aren't you

Why bother with us mere mortals

I'm not a cynic, I'm just saying you have to win hearts because there aren't any minds to really win

people with minds have already made them up

You did the same thing

I just made fun of you for doing

Morals aren't really subjective unless you're a sociopath and are incapable of empathy

Ah, this is why you stopped arguing.

Morals are objectively subjective

Can't dispute that

lmao

Unless you can prove your religion is correct or something like that

Sorry, I stopped reading after you said it was based on subjective deductions. Have fun.

At least you're honest.

Like God?

>reduces everything to choice
>therefore we are both equal
Relativism is a disease

i honestly can't tell who is the leftist here

*this is my echo chamber*

That's the best part. I was born in the darkness.

*But, unless you can prove to me God is not subjective, pro tip you can't, you cant really say it is a disease*

Prove a negative!

*tips fedora*

>being an atheist in 2017

lol

Do you believe in God?

I certainly don't discount the idea that there may be a god

That's okay. I only ask that questions so I can watch people dance.

Their hearts are in the right place. Except Puritans.

Dante do you believe in god-kun

Haha, no.

For the same reason I don't believe in aliens. There is no evidence.

No.

Because it is just 'saying so'.

You put weight on saying that because you feel something, there is some abstract codified reality of morality. Not so.

Maybe I misunderstood.

Can you repeat your claim on what morality is, if it even is anything?

conscience.exe

Conscience is different to (((morality)))

Maybe in theory, but in practice it's indistinguishable.

You lost me at right/wrong.

Feelings are of indeterminate spectrum.

wait...you feel wrong about killing a baby because genes? lmao bro...

why not chemistry?

or physics?

Evolutionary Biology and its observations are one thing. They just exists for reason explained. To put a binary value on all feelings either right or wrong, is just an invention.

It's slipping into absurdity. emotions are more than just bio-chemistry for those experiencing them.

We experience a variety of experiences, all with their own context. And after that, we some how balance them against each other. It is something else entirely to say they fall into two distinct categories,

Consequentialism depends on weighing experiences.

Okay.

Haha. Just hand wave. They only language you understand is violence.

You are a fucking brick.

Nope. Nope. Nope.

No worries. I'll be here if you ever want to chat.

violence is just as good as any argument anyway.

in fact it's even better.

When it gets down to that, we have reached the honest admission of no compromise and both sides are incompatable.

This is true

Panda is wise

May the dialectic decide.

Someone will fucking decide. And it won't be who you think.

you should write an article for that clickbait title

Conflict decided: and you won't believe who decided it!

lol it's just a picture of a man with a brick

10 Ideologies that weren't compatable: you won't believe #4!

Who is Panda and why are they so clever

"the debate on morality is settled and you won't believe who won"

And the follow up: "The debate on morality is settled, here are five take-away arguments: you won't believe #3 and who said it!"

why are you guys in this server anyway?

I was invited by Firefly

firefly is admin?

I dunno, I assume so.

Or, I assumed.

I heard this was some sort of leftypol discord but theres nobody here.

It's a weird time.

well, not leftypol anyway

6AM in the morning for me, the passing /pol/ trope finally went to bed, and I'm about to too now my night is done.

good night fellow lefty

This server belongs to everyone. Seems weird why it would belong to anyone else.

pussy for the pipo

dante, it's easier to manage a discord server if you have active admins to make new channels and shieeet