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2017-07-07 22:25:36 UTC

Do you know how it died

2017-07-07 22:25:49 UTC

Pissed off plebs who supported Caesar over the senators

2017-07-07 22:25:50 UTC

Democracies today are extremely corrupt too

2017-07-07 22:25:52 UTC

it died because stoics are fags

2017-07-07 22:25:55 UTC

It's just legalized corruption

2017-07-07 22:25:56 UTC

It died through authoritarianism and open borders

2017-07-07 22:25:59 UTC

>stoics are fags
explain

2017-07-07 22:26:02 UTC

lol

2017-07-07 22:26:03 UTC

What

2017-07-07 22:26:11 UTC

Open borders?

2017-07-07 22:26:15 UTC

roman empire was fucked by migrants

2017-07-07 22:26:21 UTC

oh you mean the republic?

2017-07-07 22:26:23 UTC

Roman Empire isn't the Roman republic

2017-07-07 22:26:27 UTC

were talking the republic

2017-07-07 22:26:30 UTC

and it didn't have open borders

2017-07-07 22:26:31 UTC

Wtf

2017-07-07 22:26:40 UTC

Basically did

2017-07-07 22:26:42 UTC

Any foederati who rebelled were right to do it

2017-07-07 22:26:52 UTC

Emperors let mass immigration and settlement happen

2017-07-07 22:26:55 UTC

They were used as meatshields by the romans

2017-07-07 22:26:58 UTC

Wasn't that Caesar

2017-07-07 22:26:59 UTC

So romans didn't have to fight

2017-07-07 22:27:05 UTC

Good riddance Roman Empire

2017-07-07 22:27:06 UTC

Had he taken charge at this time or was he the end of the republic?

2017-07-07 22:27:34 UTC

Roman republic was good and the empire was decent in the beginning

2017-07-07 22:27:39 UTC

No it wasnt

2017-07-07 22:27:44 UTC

Republic was extremely corrupt

2017-07-07 22:27:44 UTC

Their reliance on slaves really fucked em good

2017-07-07 22:27:49 UTC

Empire was also corrupt

2017-07-07 22:27:57 UTC

It's surprising they lasted so long

2017-07-07 22:28:10 UTC

Not many emperors lasted very long tho

2017-07-07 22:28:45 UTC

All governments are corrupt but the Roman system obviously worked

2017-07-07 22:28:52 UTC

Civilized mass swathes of Europe

2017-07-07 22:29:08 UTC

You mean the emperor getting assassinated and replaced every few years later on in the empire

2017-07-07 22:29:11 UTC

Slavery doesn't work because of that

2017-07-07 22:29:20 UTC

What do you mean

2017-07-07 22:29:25 UTC

Barbarians were perfectly civilized

2017-07-07 22:29:39 UTC

Not at all

2017-07-07 22:29:43 UTC

Yes they were

2017-07-07 22:29:48 UTC

They had stable social structures and culture

2017-07-07 22:29:52 UTC

That's just Roman propaganda

2017-07-07 22:29:54 UTC

sure, they had civilization, but they were primitive

2017-07-07 22:29:59 UTC

They make barbarians out to be idiots

2017-07-07 22:30:00 UTC

How so?

2017-07-07 22:30:08 UTC

Let's be honest, the romans were technologically shit too

2017-07-07 22:30:23 UTC

Thousands of years of tribal despots

2017-07-07 22:30:24 UTC

They relied too heavily on slaves so they didn't advance their technology. It's a large reason they got wrecked in the end

2017-07-07 22:30:25 UTC

The romans hired so many barbarian mercs as soldiers

2017-07-07 22:30:31 UTC

And remember

2017-07-07 22:30:38 UTC

Who had op cavalry compared to Rome

2017-07-07 22:30:54 UTC

Yes they did

2017-07-07 22:31:00 UTC

They had technology

2017-07-07 22:31:11 UTC

they're not as caveman like as you probably think

2017-07-07 22:31:12 UTC

They were relatively benevolent conquerors

2017-07-07 22:31:17 UTC

Rome?

2017-07-07 22:31:21 UTC

parthia?

2017-07-07 22:31:24 UTC

Rome destroyed entire cities

2017-07-07 22:31:25 UTC

They did have technology but they didn't continue to advance on it because of their reliance on slaves

2017-07-07 22:31:42 UTC

Sometimes, of course they did

2017-07-07 22:31:47 UTC

you have to sometimes

2017-07-07 22:31:54 UTC

I think they were pretty advanced still though. Cement wasn't rediscovered for a long time after the western side fell right?

2017-07-07 22:31:58 UTC

You don't have to raze cities to the ground

2017-07-07 22:32:00 UTC

Famous one

2017-07-07 22:32:02 UTC

Carthage

2017-07-07 22:32:02 UTC

still the best civilization to ever exist

2017-07-07 22:32:06 UTC

Third war was completely unfounded

2017-07-07 22:32:14 UTC

Nope

2017-07-07 22:32:19 UTC

That's America m8

2017-07-07 22:32:25 UTC

^^^^^^^ TRUTH

2017-07-07 22:32:34 UTC

Nah America isn't that great

2017-07-07 22:32:37 UTC

that's propaganda

2017-07-07 22:32:39 UTC

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2017-07-07 22:32:43 UTC

Quiet

2017-07-07 22:33:09 UTC

Living under an empire would have been easier, I think

2017-07-07 22:33:21 UTC

especially if you were a trader

2017-07-07 22:33:34 UTC

Better than what?

2017-07-07 22:34:05 UTC

That's subjective

2017-07-07 22:34:15 UTC

USA is pretty amazing just admit it

2017-07-07 22:34:42 UTC

US doesn't have a strong enough culture to survive long-term

2017-07-07 22:34:50 UTC

too much diversity

2017-07-07 22:34:54 UTC

It's a constantly changing culture

2017-07-07 22:34:57 UTC

We have culture m8

2017-07-07 22:34:59 UTC

Come here and see

2017-07-07 22:35:01 UTC

In fact

2017-07-07 22:35:05 UTC

I live in the US

2017-07-07 22:35:06 UTC

You probably also engage in our culture

2017-07-07 22:35:14 UTC

We have state culture

2017-07-07 22:35:18 UTC

Read this book and tell me how it is(im interested in reading it, but reading too much china atm)

2017-07-07 22:35:34 UTC

That doesn't mean anything

2017-07-07 22:35:48 UTC

People only say us doesn't have culture because us culture is present worldwide

2017-07-07 22:36:03 UTC

11 different cultures in the US? what?

2017-07-07 22:36:08 UTC

I mean fairly recently

2017-07-07 22:36:10 UTC

That's the problem

2017-07-07 22:36:12 UTC

Europe was pissed

2017-07-07 22:36:14 UTC

This actually sounds like an interesting book.
American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America

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2017-07-07 22:36:14 UTC

Some young kids

2017-07-07 22:36:16 UTC

It is too internationalist

2017-07-07 22:36:18 UTC

About American influence

2017-07-07 22:36:19 UTC

In culture

2017-07-07 22:36:22 UTC

>its on the 2017 stratfor reading list, but it came out in 2012

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