there was an atheist using the skydaddy argument

he left

Oh boy

I wish I could have been here

Nice profile picture @Mros

@thebinder

Thanks man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orlbo9WkZ2E

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Do Fascists have an argument for God?

They're pretty neutral on the subject.

"State is not indifferent to religious phenomena in general nor does it maintain an attitude of indifference to Roman Catholicism, the special, positive religion of Italians. The State has not got a theology but it has a moral code. The Fascist State sees in religion one of the deepest of spiritual manifestations and for this reason it not only respects religion but defends and protects it. The Fascist State does not attempt, as did Robespierre at the height of the revolutionary delirium of the Convention, to set up a "god” of its own; nor does it vainly seek, as does Bolshevism, to efface God from the soul of man. Fascism respects the God of ascetics, saints, and heroes, and it also respects God as conceived by the ingenuous and primitive heart of the people, the God to whom their prayers are raised."

That's a mistake,

This was from The Doctrine Of Fascism

I agree

you're a mistake

If a system does not possess a positive and active imagining of God, it will inevitable fall into atheist materialism. First categorised by vague notions of folk religion.

kek

That was actually Antonio Salazar's major criticism of fascism

"Our Dictatorship clearly resembles a fascist dictatorship in the reinforcement of authority, in the war declared against certain principles of democracy, in its accentuated nationalist character, in its preoccupation of social order. However, it differs from it in its process of renovation. The fascist dictatorship tends towards a pagan Caesarism, towards a state that knows no limits of a legal or moral order, which marches towards its goal without meeting complications or obstacles. The Portuguese New State, on the contrary, cannot avoid, not think of avoiding, certain limits of a moral order which it may consider indispensable to maintain in its favour of its reforming action"

Salazar was a devout Catholic

😦

Thanks for the reference. Regarding Fascism and Catholicism, I think it is possible for them to work together in some limited conditions. However, Catholicism is non-consequencial. The specific political system is not necessary, only maintaining correct social conditions within it.

At least as I understand it.

Fascism is very versatile and can be changed easily.

This can be seen in it's radically different manifestations across different nations.

There were atheistic fascist movements, such as Hitler's and Mussolini's, but also Christian ones such as Franco's and Codreanu's.

That's also a weakness. Become too fluid and all process loses firm meaning.

This is very true

It can lack that unifying factor outside of it's nation.

It's a strange contradiction. Hardline Fascists believe (I think) that there is something inherently superior with its system.

Most modern fascists have a very poor grasp of the ideology.

They just cling on to Hitler

This lack of higher principal is one of the reasons why I moved away from it.

Understandable

Oswald Mosley was an interesting character in British politics.

Indeed he was

I think the biggest problem that modern fascists face is that they don't understand the nature of the ideology and assume that they can recreate the NSDAP in the US. Which not only cannot work but goes against the idea of fascism being specifically designed to suit the specific nation it is in.

https://i.warosu.org/data/ic/img/0015/94/1385266687133.png

kek

lol

Yeah. Fascism can not exist in the US. I'm not a Fascist but some ideas of Fascism are decent.

Fascism can exist in the US

imo

well

It can but it will have to be something uniquely American

Please elaborate.

not the US in its current form

Fascism is a worldview based on Truth

A US fascist movement, for instance, cannot be fixated on racial purity, as it is something that has never really existed in America.

>Fascism is a worldview based on Truth
What did he mean by this?

It's something I never really understood myself

It's something that is often said on IronMarch

@Deleted User He's just an autist, don't worry about him.

He voted for Jeb.

kek

A fascist nation tries its best to have policies based on the history of nation , the people of nation and policies based on the current situation a nation is in

IronMarch is incoherent. Their publications read like it was written by a 14 year old.

Yeah

kek

Ropeculture is an alright magazine

They also idolize a man who supported Charles Manson

Siege is a good book

I've never read those publications.

What's it about?

leave the Manson autism out of Siege is a good book

ropeculture.org

see for yourself

James Mason said that he wanted to destroy Christianity and replace it with "Universal Order"

Who wants the Soviet Union back.

Mason actually converted to Christianity

Really?

after writing Siege

yeah

Interesting

>2017
>Still supporting Trump

It's some CI bullshit

Oh

Dropped

same

If it's CI then he didn't convert to Christianity

only good thing connected to IM is some of the Intro materials and Mysterium Fasces

It's just some sort of race idolatry

@nss I'd like it back so I could see it full apart.

It was some meme UFO race Christianity

LOL

Mason is a nut

apparently he looks like Manson now

Jeb Bush 2020

im writing in Jeb for the rest of my life

Same

USSR contributed so much to Marxist theory. I already read exclusively their theory when studying Marxism. It is by far the most practical and comprehensive.

Forget Drumpf or Ted "Zodiac Killer" Cruz.

Slavros the founder of Ironmarch is actually Pro-USSR

and Stalin

So?

nigga denies the Holodomor and Holocaust at the same time 😂 😂 😂

That's weird.

nothing just thought it was something funny I could bring up

I believe that Holocaust happened but not to the extend which people think. Also, the Holodomor was real in my view.