maybe next time?

nice

would like to see you using PC

On the same thing you are on

@Tenta do you know <@297127436737314827> ?

<@297127436737314827> How much is a bit?

@Firefly Can you tell me the history of the channel and how you came to run it?

@Deleted User I got banned by Russian Marxists for being a troll

Another few times

I need to exist somewhere, right?

Welcome to /leftypol/ a low-moderation channel. Feel yourself free here.

Welcome to /leftypol/ a low-moderation channel. Feel yourself free here.

Welcome to /leftypol/ a low-moderation channel. Feel yourself free here.

@Firefly Question: why is oppression of the working class a 'bad' thing?

@Deleted User I don't have morals, friend.

Does Marx just predict that I won't like it because oppression stops social progress and creates revolutions?

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@Deleted User more detailed question please

No Engles

No comprendo

Is it inevitable that I will be a Communist?

@Deleted User Only if you try very hard

@Deleted User you arent allowed into heaven unless you're pure tankie

you have to literally suck stalin's ghost dick

@Deleted User Stalin is dead, now there is my cock for you

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

still a wholesome meal

Too autistic to suck cock, sorry.

I am reading about 'Historical Materialism'. It observes that when social progress is strangled, a revolution will occur. Somehow people like me are involved when this happens. Is this always due to class consciousness?

Or just general hatred towards the ruling class?

My problem is: why be a Communist if revolution is inevitable anyway?

There is something about my old patterns of thinking that is having trouble understanding this.

@Deleted User Revolution is based on the subjective force and objective. Subjective is needed too

Class consciousness is developed and polished by the Party

From a subjective side

Objective side pushes class to the class consciousness, but without a subject there is no progress

It is a unity of an object and subject

special kind of unity

If revolution is objective as well as subjective, do you think that another evolved species in the future would follow the same process due to the relationship to the means of production?

@Deleted User yes, I think it is down always universe wide

Aliens are communists too?

Depends which one. Some are capitalist spooks

without a doubt

And the universe is deterministic. Marx does not believe in free will?

@Deleted User it is both determined and under the influence of the subject

which is also determined

That's a mindfuck but makes sense.

diamat

the method to think

best known method to describe movement of the matter

and to operate with moving matter

From the subjective perspective I feel like a God, from the objective perspective I am a passenger.

@Deleted User even Party is limited, one man's subjective power is much more limited.

But there are people with greater subjective power

So I have to match my objective power to my subjective power.

@Deleted User you don't have to do anything

OK

@Firefly Do you have revolutionary feelings?

What happens when you become a Marxist?

If I use diamat, how does it manifest?

@Deleted User no

You learn diamat and economics

Diamat is a system of thought. It manifests everywhere all the time.

Are you not eager to bring Socialism into reality?

@Deleted User Matter is an active substance. Subject's matter is active, it moves and brings things into reality.

So you just exist with your thoughts and shitpost?

<:caring:312066184948350976>

Matter reflects itself one way or another.

That's very interesting. Again I thought the Left was obsessed with activism and revolution.

It is fine. More tension result in more attraction to radical currents such as ours.

But you just observe that is the way it is. You do not stimulate tension for the sake of 'selling' an idea?

We do

Why?

To make things go faster

aliens are communist

t. posadas

Why do you want to make things go faster?

Eternal boredom

The sake of lulz is the greatest of al sakes

One has to do something and there are two ways.

Slow and fast

So you flip a coin?

No, it is predetermined

We do things at our pace

Some are slower

Some are faster

I suppose some atoms hardly move and others collide at incredible speed.

And planets and stars and people

yes

So a person, from the subjective, is predetermined to be faster or slower in their outlook?

yes, a matter is predetermined but also possesses an ability to find ways appropriate for its qualities

You can subjectively speed up things in yourself

or slow down

Like a feedback loop? The objective informs the subjective informs the objective etc.

There is a spiral, not a loop

A spiral? There is an up or down also?

Progress and change?

yes

Is it impossible to stop communism from happening?