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2017-06-10 08:11:47 UTC

It also present.

2017-06-10 08:11:49 UTC

๐Ÿ˜ฎ

2017-06-10 08:12:01 UTC

It is both abstraction and material.

2017-06-10 08:12:19 UTC

So does matter ever cease to exist?

2017-06-10 08:12:19 UTC

You're being irrational.

2017-06-10 08:12:22 UTC

Subject exists objectively.

2017-06-10 08:12:57 UTC

Subject exists in material and as an abstraction.

2017-06-10 08:12:57 UTC

Presentness is also... you know what.

2017-06-10 08:13:29 UTC

You stlll using abstraction (A).

2017-06-10 08:13:33 UTC

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2017-06-10 08:14:04 UTC

How can you use (A) to show what is and isn't an (A)?

2017-06-10 08:15:04 UTC

It is simple logic. Dialectics say A is also B and C etc.

2017-06-10 08:15:30 UTC

Simple logic!

2017-06-10 08:15:40 UTC

Yes.

2017-06-10 08:15:56 UTC

Another time you say logic is wrong.

2017-06-10 08:16:03 UTC

More than one variable i know.

2017-06-10 08:16:17 UTC

Its more complicated than A = A.

2017-06-10 08:16:41 UTC

How come your logic is right and mine is wrong?

2017-06-10 08:16:51 UTC

But still good. Memorize. A is also B and also C etc...

2017-06-10 08:17:12 UTC

One logic reflects material world better.

2017-06-10 08:17:32 UTC

Because it is made for material world.

2017-06-10 08:17:38 UTC

Ah...

2017-06-10 08:17:57 UTC

Another logic is abstract.

2017-06-10 08:18:08 UTC

That's special pleading again.

2017-06-10 08:18:24 UTC

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2017-06-10 08:19:46 UTC

Logic is not enough.

2017-06-10 08:19:56 UTC

Logic provides a connection between our models and our measurements and observations.

2017-06-10 08:20:01 UTC

Especially the lesser type of logic.

2017-06-10 08:20:26 UTC

A=A is a no brainer.

2017-06-10 08:20:32 UTC

Wew.

2017-06-10 08:20:54 UTC

There is so much more combinations. M = K and S and F.

2017-06-10 08:21:02 UTC

Much better and more complex logic.

2017-06-10 08:21:22 UTC

Dialectical materialism is the strongest in logic.

2017-06-10 08:21:37 UTC

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2017-06-10 08:21:54 UTC

What is so good about diamat and so bad about Aristotelian logic?

2017-06-10 08:22:27 UTC

It provides you a more objective perception of matter.

2017-06-10 08:22:48 UTC

How?

2017-06-10 08:23:00 UTC

By using a dialectical method.

2017-06-10 08:23:50 UTC

So you hope.

2017-06-10 08:24:15 UTC

I have no hope.

2017-06-10 08:25:00 UTC

The superiority of diamat is based in dogma

2017-06-10 08:25:23 UTC

But it gives us more agile thought method.

2017-06-10 08:25:35 UTC

So?

2017-06-10 08:25:51 UTC

It is good for the evolution.

2017-06-10 08:26:01 UTC

Keep going.

2017-06-10 08:26:04 UTC

For revolution too.

2017-06-10 08:26:21 UTC

You see you're reasons will infinitely regress.

2017-06-10 08:26:36 UTC

You have no reason, it is dogmatic belief.

2017-06-10 08:26:49 UTC

Reason is subjective.

2017-06-10 08:27:10 UTC

Just like diamat.

2017-06-10 08:27:42 UTC

Yes, it is a subjective form of objective.

2017-06-10 08:28:01 UTC

But you cannot explain why.

2017-06-10 08:28:09 UTC

It is better than other logic.

2017-06-10 08:28:37 UTC

Not very logical.

2017-06-10 08:28:56 UTC

Because it gives more options. Other logic is X = X. Our logic is complex. X is H and also P and will become K.

2017-06-10 08:29:20 UTC

And this makes it more or less true?

2017-06-10 08:29:23 UTC

Our logic is made to reflect matter in most pure form possible.

2017-06-10 08:29:41 UTC

No, it is based on your abstraction of matter.

2017-06-10 08:29:48 UTC

Yes.

2017-06-10 08:29:57 UTC

That is the same thing.

2017-06-10 08:30:09 UTC

An abstraction is not objective.

2017-06-10 08:30:22 UTC

It can be objective.

2017-06-10 08:30:31 UTC

More or less.

2017-06-10 08:30:35 UTC

Unlikely.

2017-06-10 08:31:21 UTC

It always is. Some people have better understanding of reality, some not. Some more objective.

2017-06-10 08:32:24 UTC

By random chance, sure. But because they hold diamat over Aristotelian logic? That is not clear since diamat is based on an abstraction (about logic) also.

2017-06-10 08:32:39 UTC

Switching to so simple logic would be like switching from Russian to English. It is terrible to use much less agile language.

2017-06-10 08:32:58 UTC

Even worse to use less agile logic.

2017-06-10 08:34:10 UTC

Here we go again with the infinite regress. 'Agility' makes is more or less true?

2017-06-10 08:34:38 UTC

Agility makes it more suitable to reflect matter.

2017-06-10 08:34:59 UTC

Does it?

2017-06-10 08:35:21 UTC

yes

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2017-06-10 08:35:48 UTC

You have an argument for that or are we just being dogmatic again.

2017-06-10 08:36:07 UTC

I'm speaking from experience this time.

2017-06-10 08:36:19 UTC

Do you have this experience too?

2017-06-10 08:36:32 UTC

Oh well then it's settle. Personal anecdote wins everytime.

2017-06-10 08:36:46 UTC

How can you recover?

2017-06-10 08:37:13 UTC

๐ŸŽ™

anarcho socialism for life

2017-06-10 10:44:04 UTC

What is up my fellow lefties

2017-06-10 10:44:17 UTC

Titoism am I right

2017-06-10 10:46:50 UTC

@Shrimpf Titoism is the light version of fascism.

2017-06-10 10:47:09 UTC

Everybody knows that.

2017-06-10 10:47:33 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2017-06-10 11:06:22 UTC

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2017-06-10 15:19:38 UTC

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2017-06-10 15:53:18 UTC

Raid kekistan

2017-06-10 15:53:33 UTC

Ahh

2017-06-10 15:53:39 UTC

That was the link I was looking for

2017-06-10 15:53:52 UTC

Hi all

2017-06-10 15:54:04 UTC

What this site?

2017-06-10 15:54:53 UTC

Another socialist discord

2017-06-10 16:12:35 UTC

Are traps gay?

2017-06-10 16:15:41 UTC

y

2017-06-10 16:19:53 UTC

y

2017-06-10 16:27:34 UTC

Identeties...

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