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2017-06-10 00:29:06 UTC

what type of revolution do you support

2017-06-10 00:29:12 UTC

idk, any almost

2017-06-10 00:29:25 UTC

oh im ancap so argument over moving on

2017-06-10 00:29:25 UTC

tell me what they mean in different types of revolutions

2017-06-10 00:29:36 UTC

since we are being illogical here

2017-06-10 00:29:47 UTC

in market socialism, you buisness will still exist, but you will no longer be the owner

2017-06-10 00:29:50 UTC

(note im not actually ancap)

2017-06-10 00:29:53 UTC

all workers will cooperatively own it

2017-06-10 00:29:57 UTC

bourgeois revolution, socialist revolution

2017-06-10 00:30:16 UTC

in ML revolution, the state will seize it I think

2017-06-10 00:30:25 UTC

and some central plan production will utilize it

2017-06-10 00:30:59 UTC

the state will find workers and find something to use the products for

2017-06-10 00:31:18 UTC

in anarchist revolution it would probably be seized by local community instead of state

2017-06-10 00:31:30 UTC
2017-06-10 00:31:37 UTC

Hey

2017-06-10 00:31:40 UTC

Love u babes

2017-06-10 00:31:46 UTC

What are the implications of seizing a pickle shop in an anarchist revolution?

2017-06-10 00:31:57 UTC

btw I do not claim to be an expert on this, I am not very literate on this

2017-06-10 00:32:01 UTC

hm

2017-06-10 00:32:29 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki the implications are that the factory will be freed from your ownership, and usable for the community to use it as wished

2017-06-10 00:32:29 UTC

the great revolutionary pickle shop debate with moving goal post .... ahhh a classic

2017-06-10 00:33:34 UTC

@Deleted User yeh this is too specific for proper discussion

2017-06-10 00:33:42 UTC

but I like doing it nontheless

2017-06-10 00:33:56 UTC

also I need sleep sooner rather than later

2017-06-10 00:34:17 UTC

dont forget he gave this worker a fair share originally then cut his pay to minimum cause he was lazy too in this what if scenerio, as tho that ever happens in irl capitalism

2017-06-10 00:34:26 UTC

False

2017-06-10 00:34:29 UTC

You did not follow it

2017-06-10 00:34:34 UTC

Originally he was given minimum wage

2017-06-10 00:34:43 UTC

in the scenario the owner attempts to fix laziness by raising wage

2017-06-10 00:34:44 UTC

and it does not work

2017-06-10 00:34:48 UTC

so he lowers the wage again

2017-06-10 00:35:03 UTC

wages are anti-productive

2017-06-10 00:35:05 UTC

oh something just as unlikely and illogical

2017-06-10 00:35:09 UTC

omfg

2017-06-10 00:35:11 UTC

we should just

2017-06-10 00:35:15 UTC

all day

2017-06-10 00:35:56 UTC

what about the reserve of labourers?

2017-06-10 00:36:01 UTC

better to fire and get other worker

2017-06-10 00:36:19 UTC

We're fighting for Germany, we're fighting for Hitler,we'll give the reds no rest

2017-06-10 00:36:19 UTC

We're fighting for Germany, we're fighting for Hitler,we'll give the reds no rest

2017-06-10 00:36:30 UTC

@Blebleh I feel bad for this man

2017-06-10 00:36:37 UTC

so I gave him a job

2017-06-10 00:36:50 UTC

unlikely scenario

2017-06-10 00:36:54 UTC

but if one person had this happen

2017-06-10 00:36:58 UTC

what would be the response

2017-06-10 00:36:59 UTC

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2017-06-10 00:37:00 UTC

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2017-06-10 00:37:08 UTC

your scenerio just doesnt happen tho khan

2017-06-10 00:37:08 UTC

uck off Bot

2017-06-10 00:37:17 UTC

it is unlikely to happen obviously

2017-06-10 00:37:17 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki the response has everything to do with the actual people involved

2017-06-10 00:37:20 UTC

but if it did happen

2017-06-10 00:37:22 UTC

and it is possible

2017-06-10 00:37:26 UTC

what would be the response

2017-06-10 00:37:36 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki there is no general answer

2017-06-10 00:37:42 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki If you support the revolution and you're willing to incorporate what's needed (the business) to the plan then you're ok

You know, the majority of my friends tell me that Communism is great in theory.

2017-06-10 00:37:45 UTC

like its unrealistic to prove the point cause it got smashed when you were asked why he would work harder than min efort for minwage

2017-06-10 00:37:56 UTC

so you moved the goal post

2017-06-10 00:38:14 UTC

Yes

2017-06-10 00:38:24 UTC

@eth You're pretty cool

Communism benefits nobody but the elites anyways.

2017-06-10 00:38:40 UTC
2017-06-10 00:38:44 UTC

There are people who work hard in minimum wage

2017-06-10 00:38:54 UTC

yes there are but thats not the point

2017-06-10 00:38:56 UTC

Hello.

2017-06-10 00:39:03 UTC

I know that the temp workers work very hard

2017-06-10 00:39:05 UTC

under min wage

2017-06-10 00:39:19 UTC

yes

2017-06-10 00:39:33 UTC

I don't understand the logic "raise wage to get someone to work harder" if other people could work harder on min wage

2017-06-10 00:39:41 UTC

wouldn't that just mean that if I worked for someone else

2017-06-10 00:39:43 UTC

I could just act lazy

2017-06-10 00:39:44 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki who says that though?

2017-06-10 00:39:46 UTC

and they would raise the wage

2017-06-10 00:39:50 UTC

@Deleted User Here you are a mod

2017-06-10 00:40:10 UTC

the argument is tho we are in a revolutionary society that is trying to stop that sorta exploitation

2017-06-10 00:40:22 UTC

Yes but I am not arguing from that time period

2017-06-10 00:40:25 UTC

I am arguing before that

2017-06-10 00:40:28 UTC

as in happening right now

2017-06-10 00:40:35 UTC

I dont undestand why people raid this discord server of all servers lmao

2017-06-10 00:40:56 UTC

so many blocked messages

2017-06-10 00:41:00 UTC

<@290560964632510465> do this in a commie server instead

2017-06-10 00:41:10 UTC

cuase /pol/ fags are all jobless neets with highenergy autism

2017-06-10 00:41:30 UTC

why are people here in this abandoned server?

2017-06-10 00:41:31 UTC

i still dont get how some one who cant even get a job is pro ancap

2017-06-10 00:42:00 UTC

this is hilarious tbh

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