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2018-03-08 08:40:39 UTC

but as a former economics major

2018-03-08 08:40:50 UTC

I think that under a modified capitalism

2018-03-08 08:40:59 UTC

we can maximize overall utility

2018-03-08 08:41:09 UTC

on the expence of others

2018-03-08 08:41:11 UTC

and shouldn't maximized happiness

2018-03-08 08:41:17 UTC

be the primary goal of the government?

2018-03-08 08:41:35 UTC

I'd rather be the world be happier as a whole and progressing towards greater levels of happiness

2018-03-08 08:41:45 UTC

than any other situation

2018-03-08 08:41:55 UTC

@Deleted User this image is wrong

2018-03-08 08:42:09 UTC

just because something isn't communism doesn't make it capitalism

2018-03-08 08:42:12 UTC

how so

2018-03-08 08:43:01 UTC

nearly all the worlds contries are capitalistc

2018-03-08 08:44:07 UTC

just because the majority of the world is capitalistic

2018-03-08 08:44:21 UTC

doesn't mean that anything not considered capitalistic is communism o.o

2018-03-08 08:44:34 UTC

that is true

2018-03-08 08:44:55 UTC

could be monarchy aswell

2018-03-08 08:44:59 UTC

or socialism

2018-03-08 08:45:02 UTC

communism requires all property to be owned by the populace

2018-03-08 08:45:23 UTC

but in reality you can even have an in between situation

2018-03-08 08:45:42 UTC

you cant

2018-03-08 08:45:54 UTC

socdem is still capitalistic

2018-03-08 08:45:59 UTC

nonono, in theory you definitely could

2018-03-08 08:46:04 UTC

extreme example

2018-03-08 08:46:12 UTC

but if half the means of production were publically owned

2018-03-08 08:46:18 UTC

and the other half was privately owned

2018-03-08 08:46:20 UTC

communism isnt just public property its a non-market economy

2018-03-08 08:46:33 UTC

you cant fuse a market economy with a use-value economy lol

2018-03-08 08:46:43 UTC

that wouldn't fall into communism or capitalism ๐Ÿค”

2018-03-08 08:46:59 UTC

it wouldnt be an inbetween is what i am saying

2018-03-08 08:47:02 UTC

@herb for instance i would not say zimbabwe is capitalist

2018-03-08 08:47:09 UTC

it is tho

2018-03-08 08:47:11 UTC

i'm not saying it would be in between communism and capitalism

2018-03-08 08:47:21 UTC

how is it not

2018-03-08 08:47:22 UTC

i'm saying that it wouldn't fall into either category

2018-03-08 08:47:26 UTC

Eclair - Today at 6:45 PM
communism requires all property to be owned by the populace
but in reality you can even have an in between situation

2018-03-08 08:47:27 UTC

its just poor

2018-03-08 08:47:28 UTC

no, the government took the property of people based on their skin color

2018-03-08 08:47:37 UTC

@Deleted User i converted ti to a server for my political party

2018-03-08 08:47:38 UTC

ah, I articulated my statement poorly

2018-03-08 08:47:40 UTC

my apologies

2018-03-08 08:47:47 UTC

it took back from colonialists

2018-03-08 08:47:49 UTC

sure

2018-03-08 08:47:52 UTC

I should have been more specific :D

2018-03-08 08:48:39 UTC

fellas it's time

2018-03-08 08:48:52 UTC

for the strasserists,falangists and nazbols to unite

2018-03-08 08:48:55 UTC

and retake leftypol

2018-03-08 08:49:04 UTC

sven <3

2018-03-08 08:49:14 UTC

โค

2018-03-08 08:49:50 UTC

@Brandod how is zimbawe not capitalistic

2018-03-08 08:51:24 UTC

@herb because the answer ialready provided

2018-03-08 08:51:40 UTC

because it took back something that was stolen from them?

2018-03-08 08:51:58 UTC

by the state

2018-03-08 08:52:15 UTC

have it back to private people

2018-03-08 08:52:32 UTC

and capitalism needs a state

2018-03-08 08:53:12 UTC

yes but since the state took people's property without needing to i would not call it capitalism

2018-03-08 08:53:39 UTC

it took back property from white imperialist

2018-03-08 08:53:55 UTC

and gave it back to the natives

2018-03-08 08:54:18 UTC

that doenst make it not capitalism

2018-03-08 08:55:49 UTC

its like saying the state foced me to give back something I stole from you

2018-03-08 08:56:00 UTC

therefore it isnt capitalism

2018-03-08 08:56:18 UTC

but not all the land was stolen

2018-03-08 08:56:41 UTC

they only took the land of whites

2018-03-08 08:56:46 UTC

wich was stolen

2018-03-08 08:57:15 UTC

and you cant just point out one thing that happend and say the whole country is not capitalistic

2018-03-08 08:57:35 UTC

the laws within the country doenst change anything

2018-03-08 08:58:39 UTC

School is such a spook

2018-03-08 08:59:31 UTC

@herb they do not respect private property

2018-03-08 09:00:02 UTC

it wasnt theirs

2018-03-08 09:00:07 UTC

yes it was

2018-03-08 09:00:17 UTC

a state can force you to sell your property

2018-03-08 09:00:27 UTC

and it would still be capitaistic

2018-03-08 09:00:35 UTC

and the people the land was given to weren't neccesarily the previous owners

2018-03-08 09:00:50 UTC

no it would not

2018-03-08 09:01:18 UTC

if usa said to someone who had alot of property

2018-03-08 09:01:25 UTC

you are forced to sell here

2018-03-08 09:01:34 UTC

because we are making something

2018-03-08 09:01:40 UTC

usa would still bne capitalistic

2018-03-08 09:04:22 UTC

@herb if the thing was not a neccesary utility then the state could not do that

2018-03-08 09:04:36 UTC

and no it would not be

2018-03-08 09:05:44 UTC

the only times eminent domain gets used are when things like roads or trains need to be built or when they need mailboxes

2018-03-08 09:05:47 UTC

it happes all the time

2018-03-08 09:05:51 UTC

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2018-03-08 09:05:53 UTC

its still capitalistic

2018-03-08 09:08:07 UTC

fucking commies

2018-03-08 09:08:49 UTC

poor ukranian

2018-03-08 09:09:05 UTC

did your kulak grandparends get their land taken for hoarding grane

2018-03-08 09:10:51 UTC

xoxol

2018-03-08 09:10:54 UTC

๐Ÿคข

2018-03-08 09:10:56 UTC

i aint a commie

2018-03-08 09:11:22 UTC

@herb tsygane blyat

2018-03-08 09:11:36 UTC

i just saw you typing in the chats

2018-03-08 09:11:37 UTC

poshel naxuy vatniki pidaras

2018-03-08 09:12:09 UTC

ya skazal v ukrajinskij chat, ty dumayesh ya xoxol?

2018-03-08 09:12:16 UTC

ty idiota?

2018-03-08 09:12:16 UTC

i dont understand

2018-03-08 09:12:19 UTC

absolutno

2018-03-08 09:14:59 UTC

@Deleted User ไฝ ๆ˜ฏ่‡บ็ฃไบบ๏ผŸ

2018-03-08 09:17:53 UTC

Xoxolistani?

2018-03-08 09:19:53 UTC

the thing is they spoke mandarin aswell

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