if you move to the usa..... you will make 20% less money

you will pay more taxes for you income bracket

and you will get no benefits, you will still have to pay for healthcare and education

But we pay for Education and Healthcare too?

my fault, i assumed that

Healthcare goes from 80€ till infinite p/month, and you get student loans

yea, im looking now.... your insurance Is MUCH cheaper than in the USA

How come tho?

and i would bet it covers more

competition?

because you probably have regualtions and caps on the amount of profit you let insurance companies make

or something like that

Because insurance groups despite being given 4billion dollars and 30milluon more customers say their cost went up cause obamacare

We have various healthcare bussinesses, and you can pay 80€, but it will cover almost nothing

Im a 20yo Student and pay €130

but you have a max of like $350 or something, we pay much more

How much do u pay/month?

FourChan, if you have health insurance in nederlands, and you get lung cancer and have expensive tx.... does it get taken care of there?

My insurance is through my union only 30$ a month but doctor visits still come out to about 100$ a pop with it

https://youtu.be/9FU3C7vh1jI

because in the USA you have to pay for healthcare insurance, that does not work, and people in up with $100,000 dollars worth of medical debt after surgery

they get a huge bill

You will always have to pay €385, and anything over it will be covered if you choose to get it covered

so people do not have medical debt there really?

if u cover something, your monthly payment will increase ofc

except your teeth, your max covered till 500€ p/year

becaue in the USA, you can get medical bills for hundreds of thousands of dollars ,, that forces you into bankruptcy

even WITH insurance

You can get big medical bills, it depents if you choose to cover it

I still owe a hospital 3000 for misdiagnosed chicken pox

If you go for €80 p/month and break ur arm, ur fukt

but its worse in the USA

Then how do people even exist?

so healthcare is more expensive and worse outcomes in capitalism..... and you get paid less..... anything you like so far FourChan?

I owe 700$ for 2 stitches at a clinic too

we all have debt

I owe the IRS 500 for tax year 2014

How can everyone have debts?

^ I'll stitch you up... same same

How do you even have money then?

How do you even have a house?

FourChan.... Most people in the USA do not have money, they have debt. and also Most people do not own thier own homes

only like 20% own homes i think

So can you have socialism without giving lazy people free money?

FourChan.... rich people take more free money and are much more lazy than poor people

Might be

its a fact

poor people pay MORE in taxes

But there are a lot of people who dont wanna get a degree in anything, stop school after highschool ans drink beer and smoke weed all day, and they get a fair amount of money every month

Can you have socialism without that?

us already has super ineeffective corporate welfare socialism

basically we funnel our tax payments for shoddy services from private corps

Fourchan..... poor people are not the problem

and claim its caring for people

I get it

but still?

rich people take more tax money and benefits, and pay less in taxes

and worse less

and create less

in here the more money you have the more taxes you pay

significintly higher

i lose about 100$ from every check for federal taxes weekly, i make 12$ a hour or did till i was harrassed out of my work plce for being a freak

its all about %'s Fourchan...... if rich people make 90% of ALL new INCOME- then they should pay 90% of all new tax revenue.. its that simple

what they do is they never move the poverty line and increase cost of everything

80% of all money in Netherlands is in a certain group of people over here

but thats not my point

all money and , all new income are not the same thing

most certainly not new income

not in here atleast

99% of the wealth is in about 10% of the peoples hands in the us

the top 1% make 90% of all NEW income in the USA

FourChan

RIP Capitalism

its not even capitalism, its nazi esc corporate socialism

Socialism wins... bong rip!

bong rips for everyone in fact, because im socialist

nazi corp... wrong

but i mean thats the envitable conclusion of capitalism it seems no matter what

you mean jewish corp

i was refering to the economic system, similar to what hitler did

nazis were national socialist, not globalist capitalists lol

get your jew economies right, lol

they did the same thing american capitalist do tho

you are wrong

why socialism doesn't work in a nutshell.

use the government to funnel money into their corporations, im not wrong ... its plain fact and obvious, look at the bank bailouts and insurance bailouts

the nazis were national socialist, that was nothing like classical economics(modern capitalism)

But there are people in Netherlands that (as you just tolld me) have a way better life then most USA citizens, they still complain, they dont work at all, they collect as much benefits as they can get, and they slurp giant amounts of tax money.
This bothers me alot, how do I motivate these people to become part of the workplace again?

look at the welfare system, its literally run by corporate entities in the us

im socialist i just hate us corporate socialism

im not pro capitalist at all

you might be correct FourChan.... but why does that bother you MORE than rich people doing nothing and getting even MORE?

Because I see these people every day, and they're in my face

the rich arent

^ good point actually

And a good 90% of the working people really get angry about it

And you dont need that

same here, nationalism and socialism is on the rise for sue