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konnichiwa

Earth is Flat n shit

the conservatives did not get the number of seats they wanted to keep majority right?

i heard reports earlier that many young student were being turned away from the polls

did they restrict votes in the UK... keeping numbers down always favors conservative establishment

lets talk socialism! lol

lol

capitalism does not work, end of convo

see anyone can be stupid

rich people and thier entitlements amiright

so people think that PAYING companies to send jobs/assets overseas is a good model... let me know when you would like to argue

communism or socialism might be what is left after capitalism leaves

im not sure if people realize that is what is already happening... "capitalism" is moving away from the USA into growing markets waiting to get fkd

money and assets are being diverted overseas, people are just stupid

im not favoring communism myself

i favor democratic socialism

if the resourses were not publicly owned, then what you are referring towards was not communism, but fascism under many names

^also true, as did china

FourChan..... do you think its fair to criticise "millions of people dying" in russia under communism--- when those people only died because of Western blockades?

i im asking now

people did not starve(in general) because of russia, it was blockades from the western countries that would not allow anything into russia

to say that was a result of the russian govt- would be silly

yes, that is my point, its not govt system it more about other factors

thanks for helping make my point

no matter what the system is... if you get forced blockades, you will not do well

again, i dont favor communism--- but sure there are negatives to every system

where do you live?

lekker lekker

Im not familiar with Nederlands, but i am familiar with lazy people we maybe we could manage a discussion

USA

hillary sucks, she is not progressive enough

fourchan, i do not think you would like a real conservative nation

you live in the nederlands, thats a socialist utopia compared to the USA

you would hate conservative capitalism, i bet , if you know what it ment

so , you like socialism... good then

you realize how good it can be

fourchan.... did you know the minimum wage in the USA is 6.25(euro) /hour

what is it there?

where you at sieg, blessings everyone

whats the min wage Fourchan? that does not sound right

so there are age brackets?

whats the min wage for the younger ages?

if you dont mind me asking

between 30-85% of this amount for persons aged 15–22.

google says

no problem

i found the answer

so everyone over 23 years old makes 20% more money than the USA min wage

so capitalism would have you make less money

im looking now, actually, the americans pay more for the lower brackets and get far less in benefits

our middle to low incomes get taxed at 30% and they still have to pay for healthcare, and education

no paid vacations, no benefitss

no maternity leave

so how does american capitalism sound so far FourChan?

if you move to the usa..... you will make 20% less money

you will pay more taxes for you income bracket

and you will get no benefits, you will still have to pay for healthcare and education

my fault, i assumed that

yea, im looking now.... your insurance Is MUCH cheaper than in the USA

and i would bet it covers more

because you probably have regualtions and caps on the amount of profit you let insurance companies make

or something like that

but you have a max of like $350 or something, we pay much more

FourChan, if you have health insurance in nederlands, and you get lung cancer and have expensive tx.... does it get taken care of there?

because in the USA you have to pay for healthcare insurance, that does not work, and people in up with $100,000 dollars worth of medical debt after surgery

they get a huge bill

so people do not have medical debt there really?

becaue in the USA, you can get medical bills for hundreds of thousands of dollars ,, that forces you into bankruptcy

even WITH insurance

but its worse in the USA

so healthcare is more expensive and worse outcomes in capitalism..... and you get paid less..... anything you like so far FourChan?

we all have debt

^ I'll stitch you up... same same

FourChan.... Most people in the USA do not have money, they have debt. and also Most people do not own thier own homes

only like 20% own homes i think

FourChan.... rich people take more free money and are much more lazy than poor people

its a fact

poor people pay MORE in taxes

Fourchan..... poor people are not the problem

rich people take more tax money and benefits, and pay less in taxes

and worse less

and create less

its all about %'s Fourchan...... if rich people make 90% of ALL new INCOME- then they should pay 90% of all new tax revenue.. its that simple

all money and , all new income are not the same thing

the top 1% make 90% of all NEW income in the USA

FourChan

Socialism wins... bong rip!

bong rips for everyone in fact, because im socialist

nazi corp... wrong

you mean jewish corp

nazis were national socialist, not globalist capitalists lol

get your jew economies right, lol

you are wrong

the nazis were national socialist, that was nothing like classical economics(modern capitalism)

you might be correct FourChan.... but why does that bother you MORE than rich people doing nothing and getting even MORE?

^ good point actually

same here, nationalism and socialism is on the rise for sue

sure

corp socialism can work, it would be something like a co op system, where the people in the area who work actually own in part the plants they work in