is this NazBol vs fascist

So Firefly is a fascist now

dang

he's more like a liberal

I'm for the mix of authority and liberty.

I'm more on the authoritarian side.

so social democrat

You're just a liberal

radical socdem

Nope. Marxist-Leninist

like i said radical socdem

What a surprise, yet another ML that spouts liberal "values"

Marxism broke with menshevism.

there are literally over 20 schools of communist thought

like seriously what is so different about each of them

dont they have something in common

of course, menshevism is literally just liberalism under another name

its true

It depends. Some share the basic principles. Maoists for example support Stalin and Lenin.

Maoists are okay

Some branches are western liberal mix with Marxism. But they don't share basic principles like Marx-Engels-Lenin-Stalin-Mao-Hohxa

especially Unruhe

Unruhe is good because he's not some bourgeois cunt that prays to porky that they'll release a new Iphone soon

i feel like leftist thought in general is very unorganized and not unified

like you have 1 school of thought and then another school of thought with 1 thing changed

take anarchist thought for example

there are easily over 50 sub-ideologies

possibly more

like what is this i never really got it

It is connected with consciousness. Anarhist are primary conscious people.

They must create an ideal

They must fight for it.

They must not be stopped.

They are idealists without a bond with nation.

Other idealists with the bond.

They are more numerous.

One side creates a lot of ideology and another unites in unified ideology.

Unconscious follows under unified ideology. Conscious creates it.

unified by what exactly

By the void of it.

there are so many theories and ideologies encompassed by the leftist "umbrella"

how can there be any sort of unification

I do not agree with anarchists. We Marxist-Leninist speak about Party.

Party and social structures, unified in their glory.

Liberties for many.

aren't those usually rightist talking points

liberty and freedom and liberation

No, its Lenin.

We blame him.

Lenin was not completely authoritarian.

Now we are.

But we are to allow for civil liberties.

how can you live under an authoritarian state and have civil liberties

It is easy.

Easy life.

The government must operate on the military level of order. Like old Prussia. But with liberties of the citizens which are not in the party.

You can build liberties or submit or compete in this system.

Anything you like. Left wing or right wing.

I'm pro guns as well.

so would there be any liberties/freedoms that are restricted for anybody

well duh, any leftist who isn't pro guns isn't a leftist

@Brickiest Brick it depends on situation of a particular country adopting it.

Maybe yes or no.

so you’re not truly free under communism

I propose socialist system.

For our life-time.

but you’re not free under socialism

That is right. Is the words of Lenin and Marx.

so you can’t say that socialism and communism provide liberty

Well, not everything in this world is perfect. Some liberties or many is not all perfect you see?

Perfection is nowhere to be found.

There might be times of no liberties at all.

The system is complex and agile.

wait so you're literally a neo-roman fascist?

One time more liberties another time none.

a flexible system, liberties in peacetime and authoritarian at hard times

I'm Marxist-Leninist. You're confused because I'm authoritarian.

We might share some tools.

In the governance.

But our strategy is opposite.

The goals are important for us.

so what are your goals

Communism is one of the closest of goals.

The fight against Imperialism.

The sovereignty of nations and their national resistance.

Which we must support.

ok i’m anti-imperialism and pro-sovereignty

i’m no communist

We must support you. Make a deal. Agreement of mutual benefit.

i suppose so

National resistance is important part of liberation from Imperialism.

Left-wing and right-wing must unite against imperialism.

yes i agree defense against imperialism and globalism is essential and a non-partisan issue

except that isn't communism

Communism won't come without the death of Imperialism.

Lenin wrote the next stage after Imperialism is socialism.

If not dealt with another Imperialism will born from capitalism.

https://discord.gg/nJbm3nX

So the fight against imperialism is a communist act.