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No.
No to which statement?
All.
@Deleted User Many of them. Some of them were never connected to Marxism-Leninism. They were revolutionaries or thinkers of a time, but not essentially Marxist. Marxism has many planes. Some Marxist don't even go outside of philosophical field or their specialty. Most western Marxists are highly specialized and never have any common ground with other Marxist. This ideology is relatively new and more advance. It requires more effort too. So a lot of questions are not solved. And ideology is not completely formed too. You can't make same propaganda to workers 1917 in Russia and to petite bourgeoisie in Australia 2017
What?
>The material is not that all matters
>We are just material
Purpose is vague idealism.
The best example of the truly Objective would be Mathematics
Well, yeah.
But even then, we developed that by our own terms.
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But even the mind of the greatest mathematician is still left to grasp Mathematics with his Subjective brain
I mean
@Konduct Romans 2.7 Mathematics are too abstract and specialized. They cannot be objective.
what if aliens have 12 numbers
instead of 10?
We did not create Mathematics, we discovered it.
@Firefly#9983 Thanks for that great responce. So focus of theory as well as practice.
That'd be a dozzy
2+2 = 4. This is objective.
Not if their God-Emperor says it equals 5
There's nothing specialized about an equation.
*Okay*
@Konduct Romans 2.7 it is true. Not objective.
But that decree of the God-Emperor is irrelevant to reality
There is no object.
*Fine, you're right*
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there doesn't need to be an object for a construct to be objective
>Social construct
...No
Guys, ideology is just a social contruct.
Mathematics is ideology now?
Yes
Totally what I meant.
@Konduct Romans 2.7 Yes.
But seriouslly, is it censoring the word 'nigga'?
...How is Math an ideology?
I guess not
The study of mathematics does not leave room for conjecture
Methods may vary, but the answers remain the same.
Actually not.
In the past, before we had centralised rules for the sequence of equations
sometimes, people from different nations WOULD come back with different anwsers from the same equation.
2+2=4
The international standard is now PMDAS I think
That's not all an equation is
every culture and nation in history would get that answer
if they don't, they are doctoring it's simplicity
for example, we're talking about things like: 5(3x+4)
ok i'm with you so far
@Konduct Romans 2.7 It is a restricted field of study. Somebody who studies this kind of specialized material might do it without integrating it with the laws of matter. Because of it very specialized form you do not perceive an objective reflection of the material object. Through the lens of mathematics alone objective cannot be seen.
And its not like they got it wrong, its that they have a SUBJECTIVE system for defining the PMDAS system.
So it is not objective. It is just abstract.
Highly
Say, MDPAS or something else.
There are orders of operation that are more logical, would you agree?
I'd love to say that there was some objectivity in this word: that my God was undeniably real, that I was undeinably a woman, that I was 100% white undeniably. But everything, is subjective in some way.
Is gravity subjective
Its a fact within itself, but how it works is subjective.
The theory there in, not the fact.
reminder that once objectivity is gone the only thing that makes something right is power
Something true is not necessarily objective.
While the theories are all vell developed and backed by facts, as all theories
I would disagree with that definition, Firefly
@Deleted User Shh techno-fascist tuff guy .///.
Fuck dude, I just realised how cartoonish techno-fascist sounds. Sounds like a disco guy who hates Jews.
*So good*
Hey guys.
My name is Hitler, and I love animals.
i like animals too
Good.
Hitler is a Jew though >,,<
@LiterallyAnon one of us. One of us.
Something we can relate to.
@Anglican Of course I'm a Jew.
I like this server because it's the only commie server that isnt full of gay porn and I dont get immediately banned from
I just got on. You guys seem pretty chill.
the only porn Ive seen on this server was from a butthurt Ancap
Ancaps are worse then Marxists
to be honest
Aye.
at least Marxists are trying to do good.
jewish coin tbh
Ancaps are just like, urg
Ancaps are literally like, "all your profit belongs to me"
They are just sickening and dangerous.
At least Marxist understand that government is needed for the well being of the nation.
Muh rekreational nuccs
Anyone got any chicken tendies?
I would trust a commie before a libertarian
Totally dude, I agree.
Besides, at least commies can be strong and manly
Liberatarians are all so... Eh
and don't really care about tradition.
I'd say a Commie has a higher chance of being religious then a libertarian
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