What do you mean?

The covenant with flesh Israel was transferred to the Church

When the Jews rejected Christ

i am an intellectual
one of the great academics
logic and reason are my 2 greatest strengths
i am also a skeptic of everything until we have completely objectively solid hardcore concrete evidence
i have been known to watch sargon of akkad videos until well into the early hours of the morning

Remember, the parable of the wicked vinedressers?

Rejection of one of the elements of the holy trinity is unforgivable sin.

So is blasphemy of the spirit

Yes, but the Jews didn’t do that in the Old Testament period

At least not all of them

you don't want a yugo tho

The Trinity is a thing in the Old Testament btw

It doesn't matter to me when stuff happened or what percentage did it. At the end of the day, it was Jews who killed Christ, not some poor bulgarian. As such, my holy fury is directed towards the children of satan (jews!).

Saying "not all jews" is similar to saying "not all muslims" when we all know the truth

The Lord's wrath will forever be inflicted upon the group who rejected Christ.

Yes I killed Jesus

Yes, I know they killed Christ, but they were at one point the chosen people. Now we are. Get it?

@American Knight go away Christfag

😎

The children of Judah, not simply "jews"

Modern Jews are a far cry from the original children of Judah

I know this

No no

But the Church is still the new Israel

How?

Israel is the new Israel

you said it was the same as saying "not all muslims"

Israel is the new Israel

WOKE

Because flesh Israel were the chosen people in the OT and now we are, get it?

Have you read the Bible?

Yes but how has that transferred to us?

Because we are the chosen people

Well yes, I'm aware you think that, but how so?

Because Christians are God’s people

The children of Judah are not simply "jews". As such it's fair to say Christians are the chosen people, but claiming that the Church is the new Israel doesn't make much sense

Have you read the Bible?

Paul said we are the new Israel

Unless you're saying the flesh Israel is simply judah's children

Flesh Israel is Jacob’s children, not just Judah’s

christians are the new jews, old jews are so last century

But most of the 10 lost tribes got cut off

This feels far too much like identity politics in my opinion. Christianity to me is not about taking notes on which children are chosen and which aren't. Christianity is accepting the lord Lord's reign over us, and obeying scripture to the wholest of our abilities.

Look up Galatians 6 16 and get back to me

Instead of saying "w-well WE were the children of this guy, so God likes us more!"

Being a Christian is pretty important

Of course

My faith is one of the most important things in the world to me.

1 Peter 2 9

Generation

So you think it was only that generation?

Seems to be.

He claims that it is a chosen generation, as such, it's referring only to that generation.

So what are Christians if not the people of God?

I never once said otherwise.

Right, we are the people of God, where flesh Israel once was, hence the new Israel

That seems a little bit of a reach. Simply saying that the church is the chosen people of God is probably a far less confusing way of saying it. Claiming we're the new Israel is a little overboard.

So we are the real Jews.

It’s the same thing

Saying you're the new Israel has an awful lot of connotations. Not to mention, not really. Israel is simply a region/country in the common vernacular. Simply claiming that we are the chosen people of God is a much better way of putting it.

I mean in reference to Old Testament Israel, not the modern state

I'm aware, but you see how it could be rather misleading to just about anyone who's not intimately familiar with scripture, no?

Doesn’t matter, I don’t base my linguistic choices on man’s concerns

To spread the word of our Lord, we want to not repulse people. That's our goal in life, after all.

If people are repulsed by the Old Covenant that’s their problem

Most people don't even know what's in the OT

Hence why they'll think you're just calling Christians Jews

When we show them the light of the Lord, they'll be okay with it, but if they don't know, they'll think we're attempting to claim to be Jewish in roots.

We are Jews, in a spiritual sense. And we are Jewish in roots. That’s why Jesus says the synagogue of Satan *calls themselves Jews and are not*, because modern Jews are not Jews in the sense that the Bible uses

"We are jews"

I think this conversation has concluded.

If you have an issue with the Bible that’s not my problem

I don't, however, others do.

Obviously modern Jews are wicked, but when I say Christians are spiritual Jews I’m not referring to Talmudists

Yes, but those who are unfamiliar with us don't know what we're talking about. It's just a poor way to spread the light in my opinion.

I’m not going to water down the message of Truth to suit man’s sensibilities

It's not watering it down, it's simply using modern vernacular. It serves no purpose for us to distort the average person's perception of Christ's followers.

I don’t care what the modern Jews call themselves, or what modern people think. Modern people think mutilating children to turn them trans is ok

I care what God thinks

Yes, that's why it's more important than ever to spread the Lord's word in whatever way we can. By alienating people, all we do is push them away from the truth. I can't possibly know what He would want, but it would make sense that God would rather have followers that were brought into this due to a simplified message, than to have His word lost to history because we've repelled the people away from His message.

Do you at least see what I'm saying?

Even if not, this was a nice conversation. It's good to talk to somebody about this.

How long until America (as we know it) ceases to exist?

all empires whittle away

Of course, but the question is, how long will it take for the American empire to fully collapse?

long time, I'd say 3-4 centuries

not in our lifetime

in our lifetime

probably not

the economic war with china will probably extend its lifetime

He's right

Humans actually live for multiple centuries

(((they))) just try to cover it up

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America will probably fall within our lifetime

American Whites are starting to wake up

lets hope they dont wake up