Message from @American Knight

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2018-12-17 07:34:25 UTC  

you said it was the same as saying "not all muslims"

2018-12-17 07:34:31 UTC  

Israel is the new Israel

2018-12-17 07:34:33 UTC  

WOKE

2018-12-17 07:34:55 UTC  

Because flesh Israel were the chosen people in the OT and now we are, get it?

2018-12-17 07:35:04 UTC  

Have you read the Bible?

2018-12-17 07:35:16 UTC  

Yes but how has that transferred to us?

2018-12-17 07:35:29 UTC  

Because we are the chosen people

2018-12-17 07:35:44 UTC  

Well yes, I'm aware you think that, but how so?

2018-12-17 07:36:06 UTC  

Because Christians are God’s people

2018-12-17 07:36:14 UTC  

The children of Judah are not simply "jews". As such it's fair to say Christians are the chosen people, but claiming that the Church is the new Israel doesn't make much sense

2018-12-17 07:36:15 UTC  

Have you read the Bible?

2018-12-17 07:36:30 UTC  

Paul said we are the new Israel

2018-12-17 07:36:34 UTC  

Unless you're saying the flesh Israel is simply judah's children

2018-12-17 07:36:58 UTC  

Flesh Israel is Jacob’s children, not just Judah’s

2018-12-17 07:37:11 UTC  

christians are the new jews, old jews are so last century

2018-12-17 07:37:13 UTC  

But most of the 10 lost tribes got cut off

2018-12-17 07:38:07 UTC  

This feels far too much like identity politics in my opinion. Christianity to me is not about taking notes on which children are chosen and which aren't. Christianity is accepting the lord Lord's reign over us, and obeying scripture to the wholest of our abilities.

2018-12-17 07:38:12 UTC  

Look up Galatians 6 16 and get back to me

2018-12-17 07:38:24 UTC  

Instead of saying "w-well WE were the children of this guy, so God likes us more!"

2018-12-17 07:39:22 UTC  

Being a Christian is pretty important

2018-12-17 07:40:19 UTC  

Of course

2018-12-17 07:40:28 UTC  

My faith is one of the most important things in the world to me.

2018-12-17 07:40:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/524128845360529438/image.png

2018-12-17 07:41:01 UTC  

1 Peter 2 9

2018-12-17 07:41:03 UTC  

Generation

2018-12-17 07:41:36 UTC  

So you think it was only that generation?

2018-12-17 07:41:43 UTC  

Seems to be.

2018-12-17 07:41:53 UTC  

He claims that it is a chosen generation, as such, it's referring only to that generation.

2018-12-17 07:42:39 UTC  

So what are Christians if not the people of God?

2018-12-17 07:42:48 UTC  

I never once said otherwise.

2018-12-17 07:43:23 UTC  

Right, we are the people of God, where flesh Israel once was, hence the new Israel

2018-12-17 07:44:04 UTC  

That seems a little bit of a reach. Simply saying that the church is the chosen people of God is probably a far less confusing way of saying it. Claiming we're the new Israel is a little overboard.

2018-12-17 07:44:15 UTC  

So we are the real Jews.

2018-12-17 07:44:40 UTC  

It’s the same thing

2018-12-17 07:46:33 UTC  

Saying you're the new Israel has an awful lot of connotations. Not to mention, not really. Israel is simply a region/country in the common vernacular. Simply claiming that we are the chosen people of God is a much better way of putting it.

2018-12-17 07:47:08 UTC  

I mean in reference to Old Testament Israel, not the modern state

2018-12-17 07:47:34 UTC  

I'm aware, but you see how it could be rather misleading to just about anyone who's not intimately familiar with scripture, no?

2018-12-17 07:47:57 UTC  

Doesn’t matter, I don’t base my linguistic choices on man’s concerns

2018-12-17 07:48:17 UTC  

To spread the word of our Lord, we want to not repulse people. That's our goal in life, after all.

2018-12-17 07:48:47 UTC  

If people are repulsed by the Old Covenant that’s their problem

2018-12-17 07:48:58 UTC  

Most people don't even know what's in the OT