it gets to the point where

but a lot of socialists did actually leave the party when it became more liberalised

I'm not sure PSOE is good enough for the socdem label

PSOE is the welfare party

but all our parties are welfare parties

and we are all obsessed on immigration and copying scandinavia

what a gay fucking country...

and we're more preoccupied on feminism than our fucking economy

also, REMOVE

CATALONIAS

It's like that in every west European country

AUTONOMY

every party these days is about welfare, UBI, etc. mostly because those things do nothing to challenge the actual system of power, so the establishment peddles it. and, gets the population complacent.

FFS

^

^^^^

but the sick thing about this is, the moment peope have this, they don't want to give it up

the parties that offer this

will instantly gain support

^

and once people are accomodated to this

people can't live without it

free uni tho...

this has been the plan ever since the 19th c., and it's suceeded exponentally

uni should be free tho lul

The mainstream population of the west has been brainwashed by social liberalism since atleast the 70s

Welfare is literally like a drug

you're dependent on it, you want more of it, you can't get off it

^

I'd say that there's nothing wrong with social services, they can be rights, but it must be counterposed to actual duties.

as in USSR for example

you can thank Bismarck for this, among aothers

Prussian Socialism

> Prussian
> socialism

pick one

nothing wrong with social services, but not to the extent that people practically make 800 euros without doing anything a monthly

oh no I took the <:bait:520002653439262721>

this literally happens in britani

>britani

britain

Bismarck didn't even adopt social democracy, he took what he wanted from it and drove it six feet underground

Bismarck was above you because he was le aryan deutscher nog

if he's le german

he's above you

😎

What if Spain just annexed portugal

I would actually vote for him tho, qt

@Nikitis can't, UK pact

ARGHH

Mhm

we would've annexed portugal but the UK made a pact with portugal in the 12th century

@aymem this the spanish macron/trudeau/blair?

Is Gibraltar relevant to Spain?

yes.

no, but we do want it back

and it is a colony

so britain should stop being hypocrites about it

> What if Spain just annexed portugal

EU annexes all tbh

^

Yall got colonized

wah

can't think about annexation when we're currently getting annexed

EU now, portugal later

😎

EU is just strange

and then netherlands, sicily, greece, andorra and britain (fu)

its not even that I'm opposed to the existence of some kind of European alliance or whatever, but the current form is just wrong and it cant be reformed

whys it wrong?

I'm more for a Mediterranean Alliance because eurocentrism is built on a lie

The EU is progressive

and isn't a fucking T-H-I-N-G

New Kalmar Union tbh

socialist one

^

mmmmm

good stuff

Progressivism sucks ass

Kalmar Union is gucci

Iberian Union is gucci

Unions are gucci

We should all go back to roman style shit

EU is prada

very original @Mairon

^

Dutch - British union

so original

we should go back to PRE-roman shit

Plus Belgium

Stone Age Gang

atleast Iberia should, but a boy can dream 😦

Is this the put out your Worst Ideas game?

Neolithic age gang

^ this was me... unironically

"neolithic nationalism"

**Triassic Golden Age**

LUL

LOL

Jurassic

I was actually le neolith nationalist

cringe af

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