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Fascism, white identitarian etc are played out. There will never be a white ethnostate in the US. White liberals will make sure of that.
the ui
is beautiful
there's ethnic kebab music playing
and i don't know how to stop it
epic
fixed it
found how to nuke myself
don't have nukes because it's 1914
You need nukes by 1915
working on it
fuc
double fuck
someone shot ferdinando
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tutorial's stupid
going into sandbox mode
next post picks the country i play
@Xinyue What are some important texts to read on socialism if I want to inform myself?
oh, good question. Depends a lot on *which school of socialism.*
1) for Marxism-Leninism, go for *Fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism* (1960), by Kuusinen, its very good summation of that school
2) for Mutualism, *What is Property?*, *General Idea of Revolution in XIX Century* and *Principle of Federation* by Proudhon should be good
3) for Yugomarxism, anything by Mihailo Markovic, Gajo Petrovic and the Praxis School scholars should do a good job
4) for Marxist Social Democracy, or socialist gradualism, go for Karl Kautsky (Dictatorship of Proletariat, Social Democracy vs. Communism etc)
5) for Libertarian Marxism, there's *Workers' Councils* by Anton Pannekoek which is a pretty remarkable work in its own right
These are some that I can think of at the top of my head. There's other stuff of course like syndicalism etc. but I think this will do just fine
hey, know thy enemy
Marxists be like: *Capitalism is the parent of Socialism*
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How art thou
I am tired, other than that, pretty great
Nice
Can I get American role
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@Frosty Just made one for you
Thank you...what roles exist?
You can find a list in <#507040923884978176> @Russ
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@Nikitis capitalism is a tool, it's a problem because there is no State saying what's right and wrong for capitalists
If hitler never existed would online fascists still blame the Jews today
capitalism is regulated rn
there isn't an absolute free market
Affirmative Action is forced on the Private Sector through the Judiciary
that definitely feels like telling what right and wrong
Capitalism has it's perks. I generally like decreasing the state's role in the market, but the state should be soverign and it does own the land, and thus has a responsibility to be a good steward of the land. I think environmentalism is important
@Nikitis would Jews behavior be any different?
Capitalism is cancer
and must be destroyed
it isn't just Fascists who are woke about the noses
Christians used to be
Muslims are
ah yes, the Godlike Jew hypothesis rears its head again
smh
can we stop deifying the Jews? they don't run the world ๐
@Xinyue irl
...
oh man
fak u Storm
we brought the gay reddit back
ANYWAY
the whole notion that Jews are in some position to control world events is a fiction
you still haven't explained why Socialism is good @Xinyue
he never got the chance
from what I can see
talked to him befoe
i see
nevermind then
Its good for a number of reasons, depending on the perspective - some of which are mutually contradictory. But I'll give you my view on it.
Socialism is good because it allows the social totality to harmonise itself around the creative process of labour and production. It allows the power relations to be equalised in a manner which allows the emergence of a true societal consensus politics - unhampered by wealth and influence disparities. More importantly than anything else, it allows man to take part in unalienated labour - labour unalienated from
a) the *product* of the labour in question
b) the *objective* of the labour in question
c) the *society* in which the labour in question takes place
d) the *coworkers* in the labour process in question
In brief, socialism is that system which brings society and men together in a way that no other societal system can. It recognises that the place of human creative and productive agency is primary, and further it realises the social nature of men, and then synthesises these two realisations into one coherent, comprehensive socio-economic system.
Life doesn't work that way
what if life do life in that way
Life doesn't work in any one given way. Life is chaos, with near infinite number of possibilities.
Wat
yes
If I work, why would I want to decrease the amount of my paycheck I receive (the amount I can use to invest in my family and their future) in order to redistribute it towards those who don't work?
That's not what socialism is about
I know socialism is far more complicated
if im correct, socialism does away with currency
yeah capitalist currency doesn't really exist as such in socialism
at the most, socialism would have barter
and its about the workers controlling production, communications etc. infrastructure via councils, its a system which is divorced from the rationales of capitalism
My point is that welfare is bad for working men and their families.
in socialism, people as a rule work
you choose what you work on, but you do work
Why should workers control this stuff?
or as socialists put it: *socially useful labour*
I think elites should
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the infrastructure which all of us are dependent on, should be in the purview of all to decide on
Those who are experts, specializing in management and rule
That's just democracy
yes, socialism in purest terms is democracy applied to economics and production
Children shouldn't vote on their bed time
The father, who rules over his children, who owns the house, who feeds them, should decide
the problem with democracy is that 2 idiots are more powerful than 1 intellectual
The only superfluous figure in an enterprise is the capitalist management. You can remove the capitalist, and have an enterprise still function, but you cannot remove the whole staff and leave the capitalist. This is a reality of enterprises, how they are based, a reality on their character.
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