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2018-12-13 03:03:21 UTC

Fascism, white identitarian etc are played out. There will never be a white ethnostate in the US. White liberals will make sure of that.

2018-12-13 03:03:34 UTC

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2018-12-13 03:03:39 UTC

the ui

2018-12-13 03:03:41 UTC

is beautiful

2018-12-13 03:03:49 UTC

there's ethnic kebab music playing

2018-12-13 03:03:53 UTC

and i don't know how to stop it

2018-12-13 03:04:08 UTC

epic

2018-12-13 03:04:10 UTC

fixed it

2018-12-13 03:04:14 UTC

found how to nuke myself

2018-12-13 03:04:19 UTC

don't have nukes because it's 1914

2018-12-13 03:04:44 UTC

You need nukes by 1915

2018-12-13 03:04:57 UTC

working on it

2018-12-13 03:05:22 UTC

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2018-12-13 03:05:23 UTC

fuc

2018-12-13 03:06:00 UTC

2018-12-13 03:06:27 UTC

double fuck

2018-12-13 03:06:31 UTC

someone shot ferdinando

2018-12-13 03:08:25 UTC

@Thrawn#7735 Welcome!

2018-12-13 03:08:35 UTC

<:virgin:508484108956073994>

2018-12-13 03:08:38 UTC

tutorial's stupid

2018-12-13 03:08:41 UTC

going into sandbox mode

2018-12-13 03:09:03 UTC

next post picks the country i play

2018-12-13 03:11:51 UTC

@Xinyue What are some important texts to read on socialism if I want to inform myself?

2018-12-13 03:16:23 UTC

oh, good question. Depends a lot on *which school of socialism.*

1) for Marxism-Leninism, go for *Fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism* (1960), by Kuusinen, its very good summation of that school
2) for Mutualism, *What is Property?*, *General Idea of Revolution in XIX Century* and *Principle of Federation* by Proudhon should be good
3) for Yugomarxism, anything by Mihailo Markovic, Gajo Petrovic and the Praxis School scholars should do a good job
4) for Marxist Social Democracy, or socialist gradualism, go for Karl Kautsky (Dictatorship of Proletariat, Social Democracy vs. Communism etc)
5) for Libertarian Marxism, there's *Workers' Councils* by Anton Pannekoek which is a pretty remarkable work in its own right

These are some that I can think of at the top of my head. There's other stuff of course like syndicalism etc. but I think this will do just fine

2018-12-13 03:17:28 UTC

2018-12-13 03:18:27 UTC

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2018-12-13 03:18:47 UTC

hey, know thy enemy

2018-12-13 03:18:49 UTC

Marxists be like: *Capitalism is the parent of Socialism*

๐Ÿ˜„

2018-12-13 03:20:09 UTC

2018-12-13 03:20:21 UTC

@Frosty Welcome!

2018-12-13 03:20:27 UTC

Thx

2018-12-13 03:20:52 UTC

How art thou

2018-12-13 03:21:10 UTC

I am tired, other than that, pretty great

2018-12-13 03:21:17 UTC

Nice

2018-12-13 03:21:39 UTC

Can I get American role

2018-12-13 03:21:48 UTC

2018-12-13 03:23:41 UTC

@Russ Welcome!

2018-12-13 03:24:36 UTC

@Frosty Just made one for you

2018-12-13 03:25:12 UTC

Thank you...what roles exist?

2018-12-13 03:27:05 UTC

You can find a list in <#507040923884978176> @Russ

2018-12-13 03:30:08 UTC

Thx

2018-12-13 03:50:18 UTC

2018-12-13 03:54:57 UTC

@Nikitis capitalism is a tool, it's a problem because there is no State saying what's right and wrong for capitalists

2018-12-13 03:55:23 UTC

If hitler never existed would online fascists still blame the Jews today

2018-12-13 03:56:13 UTC

capitalism is regulated rn

2018-12-13 03:56:26 UTC

there isn't an absolute free market

2018-12-13 03:56:43 UTC

Affirmative Action is forced on the Private Sector through the Judiciary

2018-12-13 03:57:04 UTC

that definitely feels like telling what right and wrong

2018-12-13 04:05:56 UTC

Capitalism has it's perks. I generally like decreasing the state's role in the market, but the state should be soverign and it does own the land, and thus has a responsibility to be a good steward of the land. I think environmentalism is important

2018-12-13 04:06:39 UTC

@Nikitis would Jews behavior be any different?

2018-12-13 04:07:11 UTC

Capitalism is cancer

2018-12-13 04:07:15 UTC

and must be destroyed

2018-12-13 04:07:27 UTC

it isn't just Fascists who are woke about the noses

2018-12-13 04:07:32 UTC

Christians used to be

2018-12-13 04:07:37 UTC

Muslims are

2018-12-13 04:07:50 UTC

ah yes, the Godlike Jew hypothesis rears its head again

2018-12-13 04:07:51 UTC

smh

2018-12-13 04:08:00 UTC

can we stop deifying the Jews? they don't run the world ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-12-13 04:08:13 UTC

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2018-12-13 04:08:24 UTC

...

2018-12-13 04:08:27 UTC

oh man

2018-12-13 04:08:30 UTC

fak u Storm

2018-12-13 04:08:33 UTC

we brought the gay reddit back

2018-12-13 04:08:50 UTC

ANYWAY

2018-12-13 04:09:06 UTC

the whole notion that Jews are in some position to control world events is a fiction

2018-12-13 04:09:22 UTC

you still haven't explained why Socialism is good @Xinyue

2018-12-13 04:09:38 UTC

he never got the chance

2018-12-13 04:09:46 UTC

from what I can see

2018-12-13 04:09:53 UTC

talked to him befoe

2018-12-13 04:09:57 UTC

i see

2018-12-13 04:09:59 UTC

nevermind then

2018-12-13 04:12:39 UTC

Its good for a number of reasons, depending on the perspective - some of which are mutually contradictory. But I'll give you my view on it.

Socialism is good because it allows the social totality to harmonise itself around the creative process of labour and production. It allows the power relations to be equalised in a manner which allows the emergence of a true societal consensus politics - unhampered by wealth and influence disparities. More importantly than anything else, it allows man to take part in unalienated labour - labour unalienated from

a) the *product* of the labour in question
b) the *objective* of the labour in question
c) the *society* in which the labour in question takes place
d) the *coworkers* in the labour process in question

In brief, socialism is that system which brings society and men together in a way that no other societal system can. It recognises that the place of human creative and productive agency is primary, and further it realises the social nature of men, and then synthesises these two realisations into one coherent, comprehensive socio-economic system.

2018-12-13 04:13:00 UTC

Life doesn't work that way

2018-12-13 04:13:24 UTC

what if life do life in that way

2018-12-13 04:13:31 UTC

Life doesn't work in any one given way. Life is chaos, with near infinite number of possibilities.

2018-12-13 04:13:32 UTC

Wat

2018-12-13 04:13:36 UTC

yes

2018-12-13 04:15:10 UTC

If I work, why would I want to decrease the amount of my paycheck I receive (the amount I can use to invest in my family and their future) in order to redistribute it towards those who don't work?

2018-12-13 04:15:29 UTC

That's not what socialism is about

2018-12-13 04:15:32 UTC

I know socialism is far more complicated

2018-12-13 04:15:33 UTC

if im correct, socialism does away with currency

2018-12-13 04:15:49 UTC

yeah capitalist currency doesn't really exist as such in socialism

2018-12-13 04:16:07 UTC

at the most, socialism would have barter

2018-12-13 04:16:23 UTC

and its about the workers controlling production, communications etc. infrastructure via councils, its a system which is divorced from the rationales of capitalism

2018-12-13 04:16:39 UTC

My point is that welfare is bad for working men and their families.

2018-12-13 04:16:46 UTC

in socialism, people as a rule work

2018-12-13 04:16:48 UTC

2018-12-13 04:17:02 UTC

you choose what you work on, but you do work

2018-12-13 04:17:08 UTC

Why should workers control this stuff?

2018-12-13 04:17:08 UTC

or as socialists put it: *socially useful labour*

2018-12-13 04:17:16 UTC

I think elites should

2018-12-13 04:17:17 UTC
2018-12-13 04:17:32 UTC

the infrastructure which all of us are dependent on, should be in the purview of all to decide on

2018-12-13 04:17:38 UTC

Those who are experts, specializing in management and rule

2018-12-13 04:17:51 UTC

That's just democracy

2018-12-13 04:18:03 UTC

yes, socialism in purest terms is democracy applied to economics and production

2018-12-13 04:18:16 UTC

Children shouldn't vote on their bed time

2018-12-13 04:18:50 UTC

The father, who rules over his children, who owns the house, who feeds them, should decide

2018-12-13 04:19:02 UTC

the problem with democracy is that 2 idiots are more powerful than 1 intellectual

2018-12-13 04:19:13 UTC

The only superfluous figure in an enterprise is the capitalist management. You can remove the capitalist, and have an enterprise still function, but you cannot remove the whole staff and leave the capitalist. This is a reality of enterprises, how they are based, a reality on their character.

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