for outlets that openly profess their love of diversity

how do you reconcile these two messages from the same side of the political spectrum:
-having kids is bad for a multitude of reasons
-we need more immigration to combat the effects of falling birthrates

it does not add up, unless your goal is to shrink the native population, and replace them with other people

the mask slips

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Carl is purposefully obtuse, i understand why banjod banned you

you do not answer the spirit of the argument, rather nitpick meaningless cosmetic details

carl has been brainwashed into adopting a non reproductive lifestyle

so these two messages make sense to it

Avoid using arguments with the word "all" in it, because it opens up the way for your opponent to pick 1 tiny example among many to say: Hey its not ALL, lil goy.

@Str3tch Is there an example of an outlet advocating those contradictory positions?🤔

yes, you are right

an outlet? yes the entirety of mainstream leftwing talking points? yes

you've never heard either of these 2 points before?

who are the proponents?

Might be because, in many third world countries, families need to have a lot of kids to support them, and have a lot of kids due to high infant mortality. Due to the support and care needed from kids in third world countries, they can't lower the birth rate, whereas in first world countries, it is much morr affordable in social terms to have less kids?

Idk, just trying to rationalize it

the rationalization is that they advocate a replacement of european peoples

the greatest irony is, the UN coined the term, and promotes the very sort of genocide they themselves defined

"Replacement migration"

Third Worlders still have higher birth rates even after moving to white nations...

advocating replacement migration (which the UN advocates) is a form of genocide by their own definition 😄

To be fair, they claim its genocide with the intent of eradicating a group

repeatedly publishing reasons why bypassing childbirth is good for your health, and a highest moral good in saving the planet are all u need to see

I concede that more white families are featured...and that those two goals seem contradictory. But could you link me articles from a media outlet advocating those two positions at the same time please?

what, did you expect to see something so dumb and clumsy as "white people, please stop breeding, cuz we hate you!"

Whiteness is equated to Racism, they want to eradicate racism, therefor by their own logic they want to eradicate Whiteness.

at the same time? in the same article? idk

Thus eradicate Whites.

@Str3tch No. Two seperate

why does it matter? that's irrelevant

u look it up carl

Because I am skeptical that people would not notice the contradiction. The average person can't be that stupid..

some are, some are not

people are starting to notice

you're fixated on a meaningless point

Not two articles from the same outlet necessarily, just each from a left leaning source

you've never seen a pro-immigration article in the guardian?

Like NY times, the guardian etc

**The average person can't be that stupid..** that's where you're wrong kiddo

@Str3tch I have

you've never seen an an anti-childbirth article in the guardian?

@Str3tch Not really

I have seen opinion pieces

But those are hardly prescriptive

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modern journalism is nothing but opinion

whoops

*almost all opinion

No, but they were completely opinionated

With no prescriptive nature

Not with headlines like: " Why people should have less children, and this is why"

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert

press x to doubt

^ this sort of thing repeated 1000 times over carl

look at those white faces too. bonus!

i've seen this repeatedly, nonstop for like 5 years. prior to that, it was an anomally

i've seen these two counter-intuitive narratives skyrocket in popularity side-by-side, and in a most inorganic fashion

how old are you carl?

i don't bookmark, or take screenshots of everything i come across. but i've seen these very conflicting ideas pushed by "the left" repeatedly over the last several years.

earlier in my life? non-existent for the most part

this server, prior to it being wiped in october, was home to thousands of contemporary examples

I have to agree with str3tch here ive seen this pretty often from the left

it got wiped? lol

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yeahm unfortunately

it was a rich resource

degeneracy overload

JF Drunk > Give Creature Admin > Wipe

altho search function can only help so much in digging up old material

lol

"White supremacy begins with the white family"

I didn't coin that term

But you can hear it in a university setting

17 years old. And that is strange, I will admit. But it could be entirely coincidental, as far as the pics are concerned. But the contradictory messages are indeed very strange.

That term is technically correct, without a strong family unit whitey would never acquire the amount of power necessary surpassing that of other peoples to be able to establish his supremacy. But that, is why Noseberg and his allies fears us.

I mean, to an environmentalist it might make sense to lower the birth rate and bring in.immigration to deal with the problems with the goal of eventually having a lower population globally but their effort would ptobably be better with trying to curb growth in overpopulated shitholes instead

so how would you combat white supremacy, if that was your POV?

Cripple whitey

mass immigration sentiments, alongside anti-natalist sentiments are, imho, not an organic response to anything happening in society

we weren't faltering as civilizations

Once crippled, destruction is inevitable

but all of a sudden, that alongside general SJW nonsense, sprung up

out of thin air

there was no natural progression towards it

Powerful elites have been thinking about 500m max pop for some time.

Also I've noticed that anti whites tend to view non whites almost like innocent animals or a force of nature, so trying to change their behavior is futile. They think you can change white ppls behavior with propaganda but black ppl are gonna act black so dont bother

"noble savage"

that term has been around since the 1600s

yeah its pretty common in social justice

The Nose been back with us since 1500s.. hmmmmm

@Boniface what you say is true, but the opposite is also true. and you see it come from the same people. it's another contradiction

"they just need education!"

true

people are a tabula rosa. blank slate. everything is nurture

everything is environmental

Its the only way that the Equalitarian Cult's doctrine of Equality can in any way be justified, otherwise Equality collapses into itself. Because than it turns out that no, we are not Equal and its not some mysterious force that's preventing the Equality from manifesting itself, but Nature itself.

hmm

I just thought of something

yes, their entire political project collapses @Chawosaurian