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2019-11-30 18:36:53 UTC

yeah

2019-11-30 19:15:17 UTC

So I was thinking about this a bit. I wonder if the fact that we don't live in a white ethnostate might make people sort of see the grass as being greener on the other side. Like, its obviously pretty easy to see the flaws in asystem that has been running for decades but some theoretical answer that has never been successfuly tried seems like it would be really easy to get blinded by.

Sort of like how communists say that communism is definitely a good idea and it has never been tried before. Their view of communism is not realistic. Its not realistic to expect a system to not have flaws.

It would be really interesting to see a white ethnostate get created and see if it actually lives up to people's expectations or if it just ends up being a country like any other, with qualities and flaws.

Or maybe if the state doesn't live up to expectations white nationalists will do like the communists and be like "well that's not a _real_ ethnostate".

2019-11-30 19:17:36 UTC

bro, the natural organization of populations throughout history have been via ethnocentricity

2019-11-30 19:17:51 UTC

multiculturualism as we know today has literally never been tried

2019-11-30 19:17:52 UTC

well, mostly through geography

2019-11-30 19:18:17 UTC

what I'm saying by neverbeen tried successfully is like

2019-11-30 19:18:29 UTC

I don't think we've ever had a landmass like the US

2019-11-30 19:18:52 UTC

where half the population genocides the other half

2019-11-30 19:18:57 UTC

and things end up well

2019-11-30 19:19:03 UTC

people instinctively understood the importance of protecting borders, now we have a significant amount of brainwashed people who don't

2019-11-30 19:19:18 UTC

they have religious-like faith in unproven ideas

2019-11-30 19:19:42 UTC

I don't think being separated by geography is an idea though

2019-11-30 19:19:46 UTC

there's zero reason to have faith, confidence, or believe this sort of multiculturalism is good

2019-11-30 19:20:04 UTC

good or not the question is reversability

2019-11-30 19:20:54 UTC

idk. the foolish decisions being made today are going to make inevitable solutions that much more difficult for our descendants.

2019-11-30 19:21:03 UTC

i curse everyone who has made it so.

2019-11-30 19:22:22 UTC

I mean

2019-11-30 19:22:51 UTC

I suppose something like a race war could happen

2019-11-30 19:23:21 UTC

but if in peacetime the govenment just starts putting ppl in concentration camps or something its probably going to be a geopolitical shitstorm of epic proportions

2019-11-30 19:23:35 UTC

it's going to be a fight for freedom

2019-11-30 19:23:49 UTC

a war for freedom

2019-11-30 19:25:08 UTC

allowing our destinies to be influenced or controlled by outsiders is not tenable

2019-11-30 19:25:41 UTC

multicultural liberal democracy will be the end of western civ

2019-11-30 19:25:55 UTC

I mean look at it this way

2019-11-30 19:26:10 UTC

some white people are multicultural cucks right

2019-11-30 19:26:47 UTC

so lets say you have an ethnostate, but somehow the leadership is like a bunch of white zionists who send like 1/3 of your GDP to israel

2019-11-30 19:27:14 UTC

even those people have their breaking point. they're just so thick-headed, the reality of their decisions doesn't dawn on them until it's too late

2019-11-30 19:28:08 UTC

what are these bizarre hypotheticals that get presented to argue against natural ways in which people have organized themselves throughout history?

2019-11-30 19:28:33 UTC

How did Ireland exist at all even?

2019-11-30 19:28:47 UTC

did they send 1/3 of their GDP to israel?

2019-11-30 19:28:52 UTC

lol

2019-11-30 19:29:14 UTC

I mean, I bet that in most points in history, if you asked the population they would say their governments are a bunch of assholes

2019-11-30 19:29:28 UTC

Alright, so yesterday, I mentioned how the UN genocide definition is not met. You guys mentioned how the "white genocide" meets C and D. Let's discuss D in particular first, since it's the easier one. What is the evidence that the white birth rate is deliberately lowered by some nefarious group? As opposed to another factors. It could be entitely the function of wealth, since Japan also has a below replacement level birth rate

2019-11-30 19:29:32 UTC

you guys have been so thoroughly brainwashed, by propaganda that has barely existed for half a century, it erases thousands of years of history

2019-11-30 19:29:46 UTC

you can't even consider the normal way of life

2019-11-30 19:29:53 UTC

it's like some weird alien concept to you

2019-11-30 19:30:05 UTC

I don't think there is such a thing as a normal way of life, life just happens

2019-11-30 19:30:13 UTC

this did not just happen

2019-11-30 19:30:16 UTC

it was engineered

2019-11-30 19:30:16 UTC

I don't think human beings have some sort of instruction manual

2019-11-30 19:30:20 UTC

with a goal in mind

2019-11-30 19:30:27 UTC

what, by god?

2019-11-30 19:30:36 UTC

no, by outsiders amongst us

2019-11-30 19:30:42 UTC

and traitors

2019-11-30 19:30:46 UTC

lol

2019-11-30 19:31:09 UTC

start with C. @Carl McAllister#0325

2019-11-30 19:31:20 UTC
2019-11-30 19:31:22 UTC

our society is filled with anti-natalist propaganda

2019-11-30 19:31:35 UTC

anti-natalist propaganda that features only white babies

2019-11-30 19:31:53 UTC

diverse representation is deemed a highest moral good, by the liberal cathedral

2019-11-30 19:32:12 UTC

but when it produces anti-natalist propaganda, that diversity disappears, and it's all white faces

2019-11-30 19:32:30 UTC

it's psychological warfare

2019-11-30 19:32:40 UTC

against native inhabitants

2019-11-30 19:33:33 UTC

Okay, so let's first clear one point of misunderstanding. What do you mean by "native" ? Because there are white immigrants too.

2019-11-30 19:33:40 UTC

dude

2019-11-30 19:33:45 UTC

don't be thick

2019-11-30 19:34:26 UTC

rofl

2019-11-30 19:34:35 UTC

Is it what we intuitively think of when hearing the word native in the context of european countries? If that is the case, I am fine to move on from defining the word native.

2019-11-30 19:35:16 UTC

it's psychological warfare against people of european heritage

2019-11-30 19:35:17 UTC

ok?

2019-11-30 19:35:18 UTC

jfc

2019-11-30 19:35:43 UTC

That's clear. I got it now.

2019-11-30 19:36:01 UTC

u had it before

2019-11-30 19:36:45 UTC

So when talking about anti natalist propaganda targeting white people, you are referring to, for example, mainstream popular news outlets only featuring white people?

2019-11-30 19:38:03 UTC

People of Europe need to put their genetics into a public system and give them to south asians, east asians, etc

2019-11-30 19:38:07 UTC

no, mainstream popular news outlets, media, of all sorts that embrace diversity and diverse representation

2019-11-30 19:38:17 UTC

that way europe lives on as humanity does

2019-11-30 19:38:18 UTC

except

2019-11-30 19:39:03 UTC

when they start talking about how "problematic" childbirth is, or how bad it is for the planet, or how being single is better than a family, or raising kids is too expensive, or any number of things.....

2019-11-30 19:39:11 UTC

all of a sudden, that diversity disappears

2019-11-30 19:39:15 UTC

Well, here is a counterexample of a guardian article featuring a black cartoon character

2019-11-30 19:39:19 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634415084101435423/650420618465902617/Screenshot_20191130-193824.png

2019-11-30 19:39:21 UTC

and the accompanying images are all white people

2019-11-30 19:39:24 UTC

white faces

2019-11-30 19:39:28 UTC

white families

2019-11-30 19:39:30 UTC

white parents

2019-11-30 19:39:43 UTC

lol

2019-11-30 19:40:05 UTC

that is an abstract drawing that represents a generic human

2019-11-30 19:40:10 UTC

you are being a retard

2019-11-30 19:40:32 UTC

Also, at school, when talking about having less kids, the picture had a BLACK family too

2019-11-30 19:41:48 UTC

you're not paying attention to the world around you

2019-11-30 19:44:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634415084101435423/650422024316911645/Screenshot_20191130-194447.png

2019-11-30 19:44:59 UTC
2019-11-30 19:45:16 UTC

Also, the way I look at it, if you think the birth rate is a problem why not target populations with high birth rates already?

2019-11-30 19:45:20 UTC

Oy vey goy domt breed

2019-11-30 19:45:26 UTC

Children are bad

2019-11-30 19:45:49 UTC

@Carl McAllister#0325 i could show you 10 counter examples for everyone you post

2019-11-30 19:45:53 UTC

Just hire pablo from Juarez to do chores and let him move in for economic growth

2019-11-30 19:46:04 UTC

you are either observing the world around you, or you are not

2019-11-30 19:46:05 UTC

tell ppl in the third world to stop pumping out babies that become refugees.

2019-11-30 19:46:07 UTC

@Str3tch Also, Jews look white. So pics with white faces could be equally affecting jews๐Ÿค”

2019-11-30 19:46:25 UTC

jews don't care

2019-11-30 19:46:42 UTC

they thrive as being a parasitic minority among host populations

2019-11-30 19:47:33 UTC

jews are the leading voices in pushing multiculturalism onto western nations

2019-11-30 19:47:42 UTC

it is their highest political goal

2019-11-30 19:47:48 UTC

not healthcare

2019-11-30 19:47:49 UTC

@Str3tch I know. But whites constitute the vast majority in european countries. Also, you said these articles feature ONLY whites, so one counter example on my part is enough to debunk that assertion.

2019-11-30 19:48:09 UTC

So you will see more white pucs

2019-11-30 19:48:12 UTC

pics*

2019-11-30 19:48:28 UTC

they are disproportionately aimed at whites

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