SSPX IS NAZBOL <:nazbol:589142322076319745>

Imagine being SSPX when you can be FSSP

Imagine being SSPX when you can be in communion

Imagine being FSSP when you can be ICKSP

Imagine thinking the faithful who attend SSPX Mass aren't in communion, as they confess regularly and receive the Eucharist.

It's the Society itself which is canonically irregular, not the faithful

It's been made clear that Catholics can fulfill their obligation by attending SSPX masses

@Wrath I'm confirmed and am in communion, role please

What do all these acronyms mean

The Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (Latin: Fraternitas Sacerdotalis Sancti Petri; FSSP)
Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX)

And, then, the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, which I continue to maintain is infinitely better than the Society and the Fraternity.

My issue with the Fraternity of St Peter being that they are 1962 to their very core. Which, when indults to celebrate the pre-1955 liturgy are so readily available, appears almost rather uncaring on the part of their priests.

@GodFearingEnglishman Do you go to ICKS too?

No, their presence in England is few and far in between.

I believe they celebrate Mass in a total of two places.

No, six.

Though, three are in the same city, one is a convent, and another is their school.

So what’s the difference if any between limbo and purgatory

I think Purgatory you eventually go to Heaven?

and Limbo you're there forever, and Limbo isn't that bad either, it's just that you're separated from God

I thought so too but I’ve heard limbo and purgatory be used interchangeably so I’m confused

Doesn't seem like it, Purgatory eventually leads you to Heaven after being cleansed

Oh ok

You eventually go to Heaven in purgatory. Many faithful in mexico before secularism used the Day of the dead to pray for those still in purgatory. However with secularism theyve made the holiday paganistic.

fucking modernist

My great aunts still use Day of the dead to go and visit the tombs of their relatives to pray

I believe they pray a Rosary

@MawLr based faithful

So I suppose you could say they kept the tradition in the Catholic way

@MawLr i mean thats how it is traditionally celebrated. Instead we got stuck with confused faithful giving offering to phantasmal beast

Never liked those pagan things

i used to like aesthethically along time ago. but then I realized wait it dont make sense

Same with how they desecrated the All Hallows eve

nigga, I have to deal with such a dark day praying and I get these children asking for things

oh yeah almost forgot about that

@Mac tíre iarain Limbo was the place all of the Godly people went until Jesus descended into Limbo and opened the gates of Heaven to them. In essence, it doesn't really exist anymore because the gates of Heaven are open to all, since Jesus' proclamation. Purgatory is where souls go to be purified before they are ascended to Heaven. Difference is; Limbo was where purified souls couldn't go into Heaven, Purgatory is where unpurified souls are cleansed before they go to Heaven

^

Which means the souls in Limbo made it to Heaven

Ah nice

@Deleted User so do we all go through purgatory or how do we cleanse our souls?

I believe so, yes, unless you die in Grace

The promise of the Scapular is that if you die with it and in a state of Grace, you go directly to Heaven

_it's free real state_

I couldn't tell you @Mac tíre iarain

@Mac tíre iarain purgatory isnt necesarily a bad thing but its like a court hearing that is usually in your favor. Unless youve been bad all your life.

like lukewarm and all that.

Purgatory ain't gonna tickle

I highly recommend hearing what Catholic Answer has to say on purgatory. Im horrible at explaining things.

Purgatory isn't a "court hearing", as it were.

It's not a bad thing though

When you die, you are judged. It is then that you will either go to Heaven, Hell, or Purgatory.

If you have showed heroic virtue in your life, you will probably go straight to Heaven.

And we all know why folks go to Hell.

As for purgatory, if we still have the stain of venial sins, we will be cleansed of them in Purgatory before going to Heaven.

Purged of your sins.

Not mortal sins though

Those send your ass to hell

Likely so.

But, there are occasions where our Lord brings forth his infinite mercy.

Those occasions are few and far in between, though.

So if I confess my mortal sins before I die am I good?

Yes

yup

those after your baptism

But.

If you would repeat those same sins consciously after you confessed them the first time... are you truly contrite?

We are fallen beings, and God is well aware of this. When you confess, I am quite sure you have absolutely no intention of sinning again, and, in spite of that, you obviously do.

7 times 70 times more

if youre doing it to spite God, you got another thing coming.

Your confession is centred mainly around your intention. Might you commit a certain sin in future? There is no way of telling. Do you, however, have any intention of committing that sin again? Likely not.

The priest giving the sermon at my parish for All Souls Day last year said, rather accurately, that Purgatory is the most joyous place in the entire universe outside of Heaven. His reason for saying so was that everybody in Purgatory has been guaranteed their place in Heaven once they have eventually been purged of their sins.

@Mozalbete ⳩ thoughts? Or has it been explained pretty well?

If you repented and had no plans to repeat the sin, of course you are contrite

I don't get where people get this idea that if you repeat a sin you never repented in the first time, which contradicts scripture, the Fathers, the saints, and pretty much all of Christianity

It's more just doubting myself is all

Don't get obsessed with it. Matthew 18:21-22

**Matthew 18:21-22 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<21> Then came Peter unto him and said: Lord, how often shall my brother offend against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? <22> Jesus saith to him: I say not to thee, till seven times; but till seventy times seven times. ```

@Mozalbete ⳩ Do you have any documents on demonic oppression?

And or possession or demons in general

Nope

I know, not a subject we are supposed to talk about

But I would maybe read from good exorcists

Like St. Benedict?

Idk if he wrote anything

Thing is, I don't really know who are good exorcists

hmm

But it may be a good idea to look at modern ones (that are good)

here in italy we have father Amorth which has published many books about his experiences with demons and exorcisms

i dont know if you can find them translated

Damn

It's a question I often get asked to explain is all and I feel ill prepared for it

oh yes

actually there are some translated

i just saw them

Can you send some links? <:shockedcat:591726182010191872>

@Zerstro

http://www.youngandcatholicng.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/An-Exorcist-Tells-His-Story-Gabriele-Amorth.pdf

https://newbooksinpolitics.com/political/father-amorth/

Damn, just after I found a copy on my own too

:p