Anybody reading/read wheel of time?

Never got into them

I'm liking it

on book 5

I mean there's some annoying shit in it but it's not bad

literary tics I guess

Anybody here big into Chesterton, Lewis, Tolkein, or Church Fathers? Those guys are my go to reading these days?

I'm reading Turtledove

i have guns of the south

My God he can't write sci-fi for shit

been meaning to read it

It's good

i bought it just for the cover

lol

Read the Southern Victory series

Which is 5 books

Who is this?

Turtledove

Harry Turtledove

Ahhh

@Quarantine_Zone I'm reading orthodoxy every now and then

I (should be) am reading the 7 Ecumenical Councils

It's a very detailed and dry book

I'm slowly working through Orthodoxy

I want to read "Heretics" next

I never read Chesterton

Then I'm going to move onto Tolkein and Lewis

I have read Lewis

He's essential to understanding Lewis and Tolkein on a deeper level

Lewis is excellent

And astoundingly eccumenical without compromising his Anglican beliefs

>tfw have 65+ books

He has an Eastern view of Sin

In unread pile

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AFkrKHgXNHJNn95vvYBkxmmg9CW5HJUg-zV68fiYxAk/edit?usp=drivesdk

Not sure that is viewable to you guys or not. That's my book list rn

I'll check it out on my PC

Underlined books are unread or in progress. Books not underlined are books I've finished in the past year

I should add my pile

It's 65+ books of history
Theology
Military theory/history/memoir
And sci fi

Should be able to view now

I assume that was you that requested access

It's connected to my school email which is weird sometimes when sharing Google docs

I'm going to copy and paste to a different account and reshare

@Arkona 92 If you want a really cool East book. Pratum Spirituale by Moschos is excellent

John Wortley's edition is exceedingly thorough on footnotes too to explain context, translation choice, and manuscript choice.

Moschos trained Patriarch Sophronius of Jerusalem who was very important for the 5th council.

Chesterton is peak just by virtue of how fun he is to read, idk what it is about his style but it just makes me smile

I enjoyed Orthodoxy a lot, been a long time since I've read consistently so I don't remember most of it, but it's one of those books where I know it influenced my thinking a lot even if I can't name the specifics anymore

@Quarantine_Zone it was me that requested access.
When I get off work, I'll compile a Google docs of all my unread, currently reading and what I want (if I have time for that)

The only time I got exposed to Chesterton was in HS when a girl did "Man who was Thursday" and made the whole class read excerpts of it

In that class, I made people turn away from Lord of the Flies

I recently saw a production of The Surprise by a local theatre group.

Was very good.

Definitely recommend Chesterton, especially to Catholics (who he was writing for in the first place). Man had a way with words, especially in his theological work.

Finished butchers crossing by john williams

So damn good

I'm especially involved in egalitarianism vs complimentarianism, so I just ordered "Women in the Church" by Andreas Korstenberger and other complimentarian theologians. Andreas in particular is great at responding to egalitarians so I recommend his stuff

Prots should really get behind complimentarianism more, it's really frustrating seeing the woman heritics creeping in when the roles they exploit shouldn't even be open to them...

Patriarchy>complementarianism

I mean, primarily yeah, but also I don't like minimizing the importance of the wife's support role. A lot to be said about a Godly, supportive wife who can mother your kids while you're off working and fighting the good fight.

Patriarchy doesn't minimize the wife's role. It simply organizes the economy of marriage properly

Yeah, man is definitely the head either way

I finally got around to writing my book list

I'll post it either tonight or tomorrow after work

It's huge

91 books

Complimentarianism is a broader term for generally male headshep and women support in family and/or church. Patriarchy is the most sensible, consistent, and effective form

And definitely @SMV, unfortunately even our conservative denominations have been cucked into egalitarianism

My Bible college being a perfect example

Egalitarianism is cancer, and such a hard one to train out. It took some serious butting of heads with my girlfriend to get her to understand how genuinely important headship is, it's so engrained into our culture people just don't question it. It's almost akin to suggesting the return of slavery in a lot of respects to the average joe.

Good on you for working on that one.

Big oath. Im in Pentecostal circles so the air of hostility towards complimentarianism is VERY thick, even in the very conservative sections. I'm almost totally alone in my views but hope to get them out as I trek through academia (studying theology). Hope to do some talks and release books on the subject.

@SUPER MALE VITALITY™ As a matter of useful information for the rest of us, how did you do It?

Mostly just a matter of being comfortable speaking my mind, and confronting the emotional fallout it can cause. It used to upset her a lot how anti-egalitarian I am, but over the years I've held firm and let her challenge me on things that haven't sat right with her, and I've sat her down and worked out the reasoning for everything in terms she can understand. Ultimately she's still not as on board as I'd wish, but she now affirms the same views on gender roles and male headship in general terms the same mind. A lot of it is just deprogramming so basic concepts stop sounding radical, once you can divest the emotional gut feeling from the actual ideas it's a lot easier to show how much better things are the right way.

Perfect way lad, thats exactly how tou change a mind

@Based Chav I redpilled my GF from weak complementarianism patriarchy. We went through scripture on the subject and discussed views in the church fathers. I think the biggest thing though was just showing how horrible egalitarianism was for society and the church. It came naturally with other redpills. I recently started redpilling her on the exaggeration and misrepresentation of the holohoax. These days she sees through most of the propaganda put out pretty easily.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c00a4jJNcpbbKWdnDHZARJ_BiC3Sw3P_QtsvPYlWhGE/edit
Here's my book list, if anyone of you is interested (or not)

I requested access to see your book list, my email starts with duded, you should see a notification

@The Other Paul you should be able to see it now

Siq got the invite

But OOOO BB my big order just arrived

If you wanna learn about the Dominionist theological movement with some Reformed material therein, or you just wanna bash antinomianists, get these 800+ page tome

*get this

I've got more tomes in my backlog and it keeps on growing and growing

Problem is that I can only get like 50 or so per year and actually have to read and finish it

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FOc9j4Y__TAj8THt0z_YYSGffrPcJTimYDlWyg4aIJ0/edit?usp=drivesdk

Idk who requested view of my doc, but I just made a public one

When was it?

6 PM today

That one there is the new one for public access

I see

I recommend to all of you Monsignor's Alfred Gilbey's *We Believe*. He was the longest serving Catholic chaplain in Cambridge University (1932 - 1965), until he left during the Second Vatican Council after refusing to admit females to the chaplaincy. He celebrated exclusively the Traditional Latin Mass until his death in 1998, and continued to oppose allowing female entry into university throughout his entire life.

Monsignor Gilbey boasted a 100% conversion rate for any Protestant student at Cambridge who read his book.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/We-Believe-N-Gilbey/dp/0852447701

Oh shit. This actually sounds really good. Thanks man

I still have to read Peter Gillquist's *Becoming Orthodox* after it was recommended to me

Okay, another book from another extraordinary Victorian priest in London.

https://www.amazon.com/Creator-Creature-Wonders-Divine-Love/dp/0895550768