Cuck.

Haashaahaaa

@Islamic Space Program Oh, that was an argument. You have nothing useful to say, yet you do so poorly: Change my mind.

@stephfire sorry, I'm sure I'd happily work to get along with you. Right now though, I'm having alot of fun poking @Islamic Space Program. I'm a reactions guy (like a cat), I enjoy pushing the object over the edge then watching it fall...

@stephfire but, if you want to talk about something, let me know!

slaves

I will not fall. I know the truth and I know your lies.

*Head nod* Good good, but, do you have anything useful... Say a good quick bread recipe...

Satan rules you. Fools

@Islamic Space Program Are you a bot? Cuz that would explain just so very much.

No, he isn't

@Beemann That is amazing.

We had a conversation about similar shit earlier

What do you think of family structure my dude?

@Beemann me?

I just got here, then @Islamic Space Program started throwing insults, which I enjoyed. But, I did not "hear" about your family structure... But I'll "listen" if you want to "talk."

Yes

And I understand that. He's been doing that for a while

(Now that's an interesting sentence to type, I wonder when the normal phrasing will switch to read/type instead of listen/talk)

Unsure. Maybe never
But in any case - family structure

lol, yes

Any thoughts? Problems? Ideal solutions?

Don't slam your dick in a sliding glass door. It does not end well for anyone.

Words of wisdom

Family structures are important. But should generally follow the Heroes journey for (initially males, but I'd argue that females must be included in the structure for society to continue working).

The problem for females comes down to the coming back part, if they do not move quick enough, faster than the males have to, they will be "punished" to a greater extent.

Just discovered something in Windows 10 I didn't know about. If you hit the Windows Key + G you will get a gamer console. This console will allow you to record the video from your screen along with the audio. I tested it playing a YT vid full screen and it gave a flawless capture in mp4 format and saved it to your videos folder.

@FrostyCrits cool!

>follow the hero's journey
I'm sorry you've entirely lost me on how literary structure related to the topic at hand

One must leave the family, find a "trainer" of some sort, be challenged, go through hell, come back out, learn, come out the other side, go home...

This is the essence of growing up, the reason so many "ancient" stories follow that line...

Family should have the goal of nurturing this process. Family must raise children with the goal of removing them from the family, so they can grow, change, then rejoin the family.

Most of the flaws in family comes down to failing to do so.

Literary structures are interestingly form follows function.

The subject of the hero's journey is passive and rejects the initial call. They're found by a mentor

There are a lot of people who are perfectly happy not going on a transformative journey, however most people do want to settle down and start a family, sometimes even before they'd have a chance to start any real "adventure"

I'm not aware of this being statistically disadvantageous. If anything, marrying is a boon, and a marker of later financial success

Who are these figs myth was talking about and what channel was the debate.

@Red Falcor You there man!? Everything alright?

I think hes....

Gone.

💀⚰️

can we try to keep chatting in other chats othe than roll call

Who's this "we"

😜

@Myth Why are we being told in general chat to use non-roll call!?

Everyone should name their sons Adolph so it will stop being edgy; imagine if Hitler's first name was Steven.

Omg Aerosmith is literally lead by a Nazi

@Chet Nick It's a bit harder to have an impact when you throw out the word Steven!

Is it possible to call in if I am on my phone?

yes, but you call from discord.. results may vary

Okay thank you 😊 I might call in if I am not too tired 😄

@JWille You call from Discord. You will miss out this week. You need to really go to the roll call at exactly ten minutes to if you want to get in!

Yeah, I teach today and commute all day so no go

Good to know, I will keep that in mind 😉 Thanks for letting me know 😁

I've got, like, 4 Adolphs and 3 Josefs in my family tree; "Steven" is weirder.

why do values that demonstrate success not proliferate? good question...

How far back can you trace your family tree? 🌱

considering we're only here because our ancestors did something right, whatever that may be

17th century on some branches. Then it gets muddy.

ah shit @JWille, I'm not even a son of the revolution. Polish and irish immigrants, and on one side a great great grandfather fought against the revolution. I'm somewhat proud. Monarchies are kind of dope.

Depends on the monarchy.

^

uhhh the stuarts 😄

I say this in jest

Ohhh....well, then...

I will say that the dissolution of ancestry is a problem for modern society in general

especially for anglos, who seem to care much less than other heritages

Blond is such a boomer

My father's side was French Hugonauts who fought on the British side in the early wars in New England against the perfidious French Catholics after the Dragonades. My mother was born in Yugoslavia; her ancestors fought Muslims, then Commies, then Nazis, then Commies...

that's pretty sick

"how could they get footage down to earth if you cant even get WiFi to your bathroom" ok boomer

Slavs don't like to be told what to do.

hell yeah

our space stations have wifi

I'm pretty sure

lol

"Hey / Ja ja , Judey/"

oof, I'm way behind. Such a boomer

idk blonde is pretty based to me

but not in the loop for pretty much all memes or trends

boomer to me brings to mind neo-con shit, the destruction of the family via gratuitous sex and partying, going into massive debt buying houses you can't afford, etc

Blonde goes in too hard on stuff she doesn't know enough about, but it's a self correcting system and she seems pretty good about it

I'm inclined to agree. I prefer going in hard and correcting to pussy footing around

And she admits she gets knee jerk anyway

I don't mind the reactionary takes

I dont think that's the whole picture tbh. There are other options

I'm glad Matt is grounded but the hot takes spice it up

America's problem is that nobody lives where their ancestors carved civilization out the wilderness, if they have ancestors who came here as pioneers at all. Nobody is sentimentially attached to the apartment their grandparents lived in; you can tear it down at any time.

#muhpropertyrights

I'd further that by saying that preventing any real communities is the goal of elites.

True!

whether that is ancestral, religious, etc

it's harder to organize if most of us don't have any common values in our neighborhoods, unless you're lucky enough to live somewhat rural

wtf double post

Living in a society where anyone can do anything they want with their real property is a surefire way to erase a nation's history.

Reminder that civic and social engagement were on the rise until the 60s

Which is when America was getting KGB'd hard

define KGB'd hard -- I read a book on the history of the FBI which was pretty gnarly once

but I'm not sure what you're getting at

My father's family co-founded a town in Massachusetts; what does it look like today? Fucking Dunkin Donuts on every corner, and houses from the 70's that I can't afford to live in.

Deliberate hardcore subversion on all fronts

okay haha

KGB operative defected to Canada and spilled the beans decades ago but we still havent done proper cleanup

well if you go full tin-foil, most pop culture from 60s to 80's was CIA-backed

That's true; they did that everywhere.

Was that Bezmenov, Beemann, or someone else? I'd like to look into that

without going into the weeds, you can find a CIA connection with LOTS of rock bands

Yeah it was Bezmenov

Ahhh gotcha

I need to re-watch that interview again

Bezmenov's words have come true

yep

@Beemann I'd like to read about that, the canada defect

that sounds very interesting

Look what we know the CIA and KGB did in the Middle East and South America in the 50's-80's, and the idea that all the social movements that happened in America are organic or accidental seems positively naïve.

Yuri Bezmenov. He did interviews

Yuri Bezmenov was based.

There's like an hour long one on YT

Where he just goes over fucking everything. It's nuts

anything that happens abroad likely happens here in some capacity

Read his pamphlets, too! Archive.org

deffo

I didn't know he'd written anything

Also Cleon Skousen's Naked Communist; explains all that's going on, written in 1962.

going to be forward -- i'm straight dissident right and love BAP, moldbug, landry, and practically anything over on that end. But I came from far left years ago.

so take anything I say with a grain of salt

thanks y'all

I enjoy matt, tim pool, and other content creators as a way to ground myself a bit, but i'm generally not very grounded

I knew this was messed up ever since I found out that the 60s feminists were literally making "the destruction of the family" one of their chants

Programming is your parent's fault; you're not guilty for having been asleep, just for chosing not to get up when you awoke.

I was actually fairly left when I was younger, too, but that's a story I don't have time for today haha

ah my parents were conservative as fuck, and I reacted by going far left

Ha!

"Not very grounded"
Core values?

it started with some even further left friends telling me to get out of my tower of white privilege years ago, found the usual suspects like Rubin, went into the rabbit hole of alt right shit, and i'm floating around that and centrism

core values? I'm mostly concerned with the same things most people are here I think.

Not being treated like you're subhuman for no good reason? 🤔

I'm not religious though, although I find Blonde trying catholicism inspiring. I think the catholic church is kind of fucked though right now

Lmaaaaaaaao

Matt BTFO

Blonde said hell nah

I try not to presume that other people share my values

Having family that actually escaped communism, and realtives that can honestly say things like "...it was better under the Nazis..." without irony insulated me from Leftist thinking, I guess.

Tends to backfire rather catastrophically

Wow, damn, son!

That's probably true Beemann.

"Omg living under the Nazis was horrible" - Invited all of Africa into their country immediately after the war

I don't see much point either in going Catholic when I'd instantly be at odds with the commie pope.

exactly

Me too.

I was moderate left by base assumption/integration with surrounding social groups, then got heavy into ancapism, then built it back up to Hayek level basically

But I kept the same base values

I was a bernie bro

then I found `economics`

It's just that I figured my current thought process wasn't the way to achieve that

So a Berniebro right up until Bernie sold out to the DNC for his third house?

Can't be Protestant like my ancestors who FOUGHT the Catholics for CENTURIES, because now all the denominations are run by faggot pedophiles.

The way I'd describe the experience was when Trump won, the curtains came down, and everything immediately sucked. Every leftist show sucked. Comedy sucked.

My immediate family was never especially religious and but my neighbours were. No idea what denomination. Just incredibly nice people. Wasn't for me though

Welcome to The Suck.

Oh you didnt watch it slide into shit?

I can't even be an evangelical because they're such crazy hard-core Zionists.

Was always Libertarian until I realized I hate most Libertarians. "Muh roads. Muh Open Borders." Fucking retards.

@Chet Nick y u BoOlIN mEH

Yeah, I used to like Caplan, but I can't accept a libertarian reason for open borders.

You leave muh roads out of this you monster!

I was watching it slide into the shitpile for years before Trump showed up

Open Borders is a rejection of property rights.

Also the Open Borders argument makes more sense once you have the system in question

Because then people who own land determine who crosses it, and there's no gibs

It doesnt make *any* sense **now**

I was more or less libertarian until my Trump-inspired turn toward protectionism in 2015.

It's also silly to suggest that libertarian must = open borders, since border protection is a base value of the state

If you don't have borders, you don't have a nation.

open borders benefit corportations.

corporations*

that's a coming from the left opinion

If you rely on individual property owners to "do the right thing", ditto.

but I think it's a good sell point for the other side

Oh open borders as a lefty position is so hilariously contradictory

Open borders is globalism is a lefty position.

endless cheap labor, no need to make building a family affordable in any regard here

just import more people

>per capita emissions in the west are high
>automation and labour flooding hurt the poor
>let's let more people in

It's contradictory

If you believe in economic growth above those things that makes more sense

the smarter leftist point would probably be something like emissions are outsourced to china

But I will never understand people afraid of automation, worried about the poor and the environment, who are for increasing the immigration rate

Vox Day is right about the mobility of labor nullifying MOST of the Austrian School of Economics' theories.

That makes it worse though

Automation or Mobility of Labor?

If outsourcing labour offsets the per capita emissions and the emissions are still high per capita

Then you absolutely should be critical of immigration, no?

chet, what is vox day?

Really?

haha, really

Also I dont know that I agree with that assessment, Chet

He's a Christian Nationalist writer and Vlogger. @clubfrills

I think it makes some goofy assumptions about the current market

sold, will look into it

not that I will agree, but I enjoy it

@clubfrills check out Unauthorized TV.

y'all ever read the american sun?

Owen Benjamin is funny, but insane, but everyone else there is pretty based.

I feel like flannagan would approve

American Sun? NHOI.

it's a dissident right site. the editing is a bit lackluster.

but some of it is quite good

very populist

it's an offshoot of counter-currents before it was doxxed into oblivion

Ahhha.

Trying to remember what I've been reading that isn't Canada specific tbh

BPS says there's an Albertan secession movement. That's fuckin' dope!

Yeah sorta

It's more of an Alberta+Saskatchewan+Maybe Manitoba and BC

And it's predicated on Trudeau being a cuck

A Confederated Western Canada? I would send them rifles and bandages.

hey blonde, groypers are dope

watching charlie kirk get annihilated was one of the most entertaining parts of my week

Tbh the more meaningful thing for me has been Crenshaw showing his colours

yeah.. that one is a bit more sad

I gave him a pass when he was on Rogan

He was the one eyed chosen one.

but this week was pretty `oof`

Big oof

he was big boss

Nobody gets into high office without displaying a total submission to Zionism, possibly through a humiliation ritual.

https://tenor.com/view/sad-face-salute-metalgearsolid-bigboss-gif-11054098

He was not Oden; he was just Ralphie.

LOL

no free speech for criticism of israel... ok

Were all so desperate to find someone in the Central Government who DOES NOT SUCK and would not be hung by our gallant ancestors that we ignore or forgive a multitude of sins, which makes sinners of us all.

Bets on Matt going full on born again Christian after having kids?

25:1 for @wail

Haha

Easy money; I'd take that bet.

Better question: when is Blonde just going to start being "Becka" again?

Like it's some big secret still.

never go incel, go GYMcel.

I don't go to the gym, because there's too many hot bitches there. I met my wife at the gym. We work out at home now. 😅

That's the way.

it's better anyways

If you want to get married, you need to join a based church, or an expensive gym.

it's true.

Attend both regularly.

Step 3: profit

I'm not single, but as a musician my immediate social circle is late 20s spinsters who are about to hit the wall and make feminist posts and be surrounded by cats and sadness, covered in piercings and tattoos

that's not a pool you want to be in

I worked as a bouncer for a couple years as a side gig. It was weird meeting all these attractive women who I could fuck, and after a few months, I was like, "What the hell is WRONG with you all?"

I took a Humanities course in college, looked at some paintings depicting hell, thought: "Gee, that looks like the bar I work at." Decided to quit.

LOL